'Amnesty' losing emotional punch in immigration debate

Jul 19, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: USA Today

People opposed to current immigration legislation in Congress gather at a rally on Capitol Hill in Washington, Monday, July 15, 2013.

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<quoted text>You're right. There is anew push to get the antis confident and complacent that amnesty is dead. It's far from dead. If the people do their part and contact their representatives and state their displeasure with ANY type of amnesty during the August recess, this will die. But big money owns the Republican leadership and that is dangerous. The amnesty lovers have the money an the media but we have the numbers.
no no republicans dont want illegals here.money or not no amnesty will pass.
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Whatever ther deal is called: It is time to do
something. The United States of America are-
supposed - I must add at thisw point- a country
of immigrants. Treating immigrants with condescension is exactly the wrong approach, because people who are never welcomed will turn into troublemakers.
Immigration and emigration are forms of
destiny: You might not belong in your own home-
country and instead you may belong somewhere else:
For example, the U.S..Thatīs why politicians make
too much of a fuss about rules:They actually
have no right to do so. They do it very often
out of anxiousness of losing voters- those kind
of bigoted voters who believe america belongs to them. Should there be amnesty for politicians who mess with the lives of immigrants?
Iīd like to raise this as a question.Because
they are blocking the path of destiny for a lot
of people. Immigration isnīt about americaīs economy. It is about the people only who need
to be given a status. With regards to this, I must remark that there isnīt a single good immigration-
bill in existence , as we speak.
I was very much on the popeīs side, when I heared
about his throwing a wreath into the Mediteranean
sea in order to commemorate the 20000 boat-people
who died over the past years in an attempt to
reach the island of lampedusa, Italy.
He remarked: "People have lost the ability to
cry( to feel compassion)." I do believe that.
They also may have lost god in not giving any one
single undocumented person the benefit of the doubt that they came with good intentions on their
minds.Of course will the word "amnesty" Have lost its punch when it no longer really is an amnesty:
No actual amnesty: No punch.A lot of immigrants
say to themselves:" If I wonīt get any benefits
for x numbers of years- why should I even bother
with reading the papers about immigration?"
The question of immigration isnīt something
that can be decided by using the word. "Legal"
or "illegal". All this legalism also doesenīt
solve the problem. Carefully beating around
the bush by seeing whom citizenship might be
denied shall only permanently damage the image
of Republicans until there is nothing left of it.
Until their attitude is identified as being a
kind of white suprematist attitude.
You get the meaning: Thereīs also what certain
attitudes look like to third parties:
If they donīt look good, thsatz message is going
to spread just as well, if only in a subliminal
manner. Republicans have beeb so busy digging a grave for their reputation-so busy, itīs enough
to make one chuckle.
So- this apparantls is an article from the perspective of the famous third party: Enjoy it,
as it contains a lot of useful information.
Juan Too

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Lost in Los Angeles wrote:
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Juan: I am curious that all the inmigrante indocumentados here in Los Angeles fly the flags of their homelands on their cars and restaurantes and yet they are so eager to abandon their patrias. Do they really want to become citizens of Estados Unidos?
Silly question. It's no different than any other ethnicity or nationality in America, whether Italians, Irish, Brazilans, Germans, even Native Americans; they all celebrate by waving their goofy flags, "music",and their ludicrous dances: Riverdance-geez. They only want to be left alone. If that means they have to go through the humilation of becoming Ameriricans then so be it.
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Brenda besson wrote:
<quoted text>no no republicans dont want illegals here.money or not no amnesty will pass.
Don't get me wrong, I'm on the same side as you, I think, but you are thinking exactly like the scammers pushing amnesty want you to. You're overconfident and that is not good. As Yogi would say, "it ain't over till it's over", and it definitely ain't over yet.
See the Light

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Dequin wrote:
Whatever ther deal is called: It is time to do
something. The United States of America are-
supposed - I must add at thisw point- a country
of immigrants. Treating immigrants with condescension is exactly the wrong approach, because people who are never welcomed will turn into troublemakers.
Immigration and emigration are forms of
destiny: You might not belong in your own home-
country and instead you may belong somewhere else:
For example, the U.S..Thatīs why politicians make
too much of a fuss about rules:They actually
have no right to do so. They do it very often
out of anxiousness of losing voters- those kind
of bigoted voters who believe america belongs to them. Should there be amnesty for politicians who mess with the lives of immigrants?
Iīd like to raise this as a question.Because
they are blocking the path of destiny for a lot
of people. Immigration isnīt about americaīs economy. It is about the people only who need
to be given a status. With regards to this, I must remark that there isnīt a single good immigration-
bill in existence , as we speak.
I was very much on the popeīs side, when I heared
about his throwing a wreath into the Mediteranean
sea in order to commemorate the 20000 boat-people
who died over the past years in an attempt to
reach the island of lampedusa, Italy.
He remarked: "People have lost the ability to
cry( to feel compassion)." I do believe that.
They also may have lost god in not giving any one
single undocumented person the benefit of the doubt that they came with good intentions on their
minds.Of course will the word "amnesty" Have lost its punch when it no longer really is an amnesty:
No actual amnesty: No punch.A lot of immigrants
say to themselves:" If I wonīt get any benefits
for x numbers of years- why should I even bother
with reading the papers about immigration?"
The question of immigration isnīt something
that can be decided by using the word. "Legal"
or "illegal". All this legalism also doesenīt
solve the problem. Carefully beating around
the bush by seeing whom citizenship might be
denied shall only permanently damage the image
of Republicans until there is nothing left of it.
Until their attitude is identified as being a
kind of white suprematist attitude.
You get the meaning: Thereīs also what certain
attitudes look like to third parties:
If they donīt look good, thsatz message is going
to spread just as well, if only in a subliminal
manner. Republicans have beeb so busy digging a grave for their reputation-so busy, itīs enough
to make one chuckle.
So- this apparantls is an article from the perspective of the famous third party: Enjoy it,
as it contains a lot of useful information.
I see you are not living in America. Before I made comments I researched this.The only Countries to have open Borders are Argentina,Brazil,Paraguay,Urag uay, Boliva, Chile, and a few in the Mekong region.I noticed your'e Country is not on the list, so what gives you the right to tell us what to do in ours? You are compassinate about the illegal mexicans who sneak over. Did you know that in order to support them -America pays billions and billions of dollars. They are bleeding the taxpaying citizens dry. They vote illegally, commit murders and rapes and
run back to Mexico -where Mexico hides them. In the mornings you will see thousands of cars with Mexico license plates-bringing their kids for free education, along with the free lunches. We have got a Jerk for a President who lets illegals attend colleges either free or with discounted tuition if they are from Mexico. People from another state do not get that rate though. Illegal Immigration is bad, it's not fair to Immigrants who abide by the law .
Brenda besson

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spud wrote:
<quoted text>Don't get me wrong, I'm on the same side as you, I think, but you are thinking exactly like the scammers pushing amnesty want you to. You're overconfident and that is not good. As Yogi would say, "it ain't over till it's over", and it definitely ain't over yet.
yes we are on the same side for sure.we will have a good laugh when its over.you will see!!!

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