House passes 20-week abortion ban

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Yesterday evening the House of Representatives passed the "Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act," a ban on legal abortions 20 weeks or more after fertilization based on dubious evidence that fetuses can feel pain during the second trimester.
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Not at all...self defense is a prime directive for me. Rapes do indeed happen to the stupid and irresponsible just as often as to innocent victims, so rape is still the issue. I never changed the issue, although you tried your damndest to make it appear so. Nice try bitty.
Uh huh, which is why you mentioned "abstention", I suppose? LOL, who do you think you're fooling here?

You did, indeed, change the subject. You did it because you couldn't refute what I said.

You're also obviously laboring under the erroneous assumption that a woman can be at fault for being raped. I hope you don't have daughters, with that kind of misogynistic attitude.

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Time to learn how to handle a gun and not be afraid of using it. Abortion can't fix TRAUMA!!!!!!
That is not your call.....unless of course YOU are the one raped and pregnant. THEN...you get to make that call. Not a bunch of fetus worshippers that feel you only have one purpose and would happily deny you the right to free will which is exactly what the rapist did. YOU do not get to decide, Too bad for you.

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And your point is that abortion is a "fix" for what ails you. LOLLLLL!!!! How about "prevention"? How about abstention. Since the dawn of time, women have had the same dilemma, getting pregnant from intercourse. Well, bloody hell. Abortion can't fix stupid and irresponsible. It also doesn't "fix" STDs, does it?
Now raped women/girls are stupid and irresponsible?

I am sure rapists often blame their victims. That leaves you in quite the predicament.

Talk to us some more.

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The 20 week ban is a good start. Why would someone who was raped wait 5 months to have an abortion in the first place?
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The 20 week ban is a good start. Why would someone who was raped wait 5 months to have an abortion in the first place?
Even for women that have been raped, an abortion is a tough decision to make. Also, an abortion is expensive. It's at least 500 dollars in Texas, and only becomes more expensive as time moves on. It's hard for most women to get that cash, especially when they're getting the abortions for financial reasons.
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Even for women that have been raped, an abortion is a tough decision to make. Also, an abortion is expensive. It's at least 500 dollars in Texas, and only becomes more expensive as time moves on. It's hard for most women to get that cash, especially when they're getting the abortions for financial reasons.
"Most women" can't come up with $500 in five months?
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"Most women" can't come up with $500 in five months?
It doesn't stay $500 dollars for five months. It rises as time passes by.
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It doesn't stay $500 dollars for five months. It rises as time passes by.
You fill in the amount you want to use and the question's still there, isn't it?

You're painting a rather bleak portrait of women here, are you not?
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You fill in the amount you want to use and the question's still there, isn't it?
You're painting a rather bleak portrait of women here, are you not?
Make abortion more affordable for working-class women, and the picture won't be as bleak. Texas republicans have purposefully tried to make abortions expensive. It's silly.
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You fill in the amount you want to use and the question's still there, isn't it?
You're painting a rather bleak portrait of women here, are you not?
Too bad most people that are "pro-life" don't seem to care much about the women, or even the children, after they are born. If they did, maybe many women wouldn't actually consider abortion an option.
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Make abortion more affordable for working-class women, and the picture won't be as bleak. Texas republicans have purposefully tried to make abortions expensive. It's silly.
How can the legislature make them expensive?

They don't set the price-the provider does, yes?
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Too bad most people that are "pro-life" don't seem to care much about the women, or even the children, after they are born. If they did, maybe many women wouldn't actually consider abortion an option.
Sloganeering, Broseph.

You're better than that.

I assume you've heard of Catholic Charities, for example? Pretty big operation.
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Too bad most people that are "pro-life" don't seem to care much about the women, or even the children, after they are born. If they did, maybe many women wouldn't actually consider abortion an option.
.....and odd sentiment considering you're arguing with me here AGAINST imposition of additional safety standards for women.
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.....and odd sentiment considering you're arguing with me here AGAINST imposition of additional safety standards for women.
......on another thread, so ignore this one here.

Sorry.
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.....and odd sentiment considering you're arguing with me here AGAINST imposition of additional safety standards for women.
More like paternalism inside a trojan horse of fake concern for women.
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Sloganeering, Broseph.
You're better than that.
I assume you've heard of Catholic Charities, for example? Pretty big operation.
Are we really going to talk about the same church that has been caught protecting pedophiles?
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Are we really going to talk about the same church that has been caught protecting pedophiles?
Your use of a non-sequitur is your decision to make. It's not in service to your premise (that being that pro-life groups don't care about born persons), but if you want to simply say "I don't have an argument here", just say that. It's neater and doesn't entail you invoking the "Godwin's Law" of discussions of Catholic matters.

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Dan wrote:
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Sloganeering, Broseph.
You're better than that.
I assume you've heard of Catholic Charities, for example? Pretty big operation.
Yes, pretty big operation just like the RCC. Yet I do not know nor have ever known one single person to benefit from catholic charities.

I do know I have been asked to donate my labor through one workplace for a day at catholic charities and the answer was one BIG "NO".

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Dan wrote:
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Your use of a non-sequitur is your decision to make. It's not in service to your premise (that being that pro-life groups don't care about born persons), but if you want to simply say "I don't have an argument here", just say that. It's neater and doesn't entail you invoking the "Godwin's Law" of discussions of Catholic matters.
Ah.....you brought up the term "catholic" to save your argument. The problem for you is (and rightfully so) people equate catholic to pedophile. Although, my list is even longer pedophile ranks high. If you don't want pedophile brought up perhaps you should avoid defense and mention of "catholic" altogether? Just giving you some good advice.

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