Why arming Ukraine is a bad idea

Why arming Ukraine is a bad idea

There are 129 comments on the The Washington Post story from Aug 7, 2014, titled Why arming Ukraine is a bad idea. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

An armed pro-Russian separatist stands in front of damaged buildings following what locals say was shelling by Ukrainian forces in Donetsk August 7, 2014.

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tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#136 Aug 14, 2014
Live Free or Die wrote:
Don't bother with these idiots. They are bereft of morals.
morals... there is no such word in russian.
tm clm

Victoria, Canada

#140 Oct 5, 2014
STOOGES REWARDED BY PUTIN

Families of Yanukovych, Azarov and Pshonka received Russian citizenship Interior MinistryAn advisor to the Ukrainian interior minister, Anton Herahchenko, has said that former Ukrainian officials - Viktor Yanukovych, Mykola Azarov and Viktor Pshonka, as well as their families have received Russian citizenship.
"The families of Yanukovych, Pshonka and Azarov have managed to agree with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin on the provision of Russian citizenship, and they may still feel dry and comfortable.Learned from operational sources that [Russian] nationality to Ukraine's betrayers had been granted under a separate secret decree of Russian President Vladimir Putin as a reward for their faithful service on the collapse of Ukraine's national security, defense, law and order system and economy,"
Zeppelin

Knoxville, TN

#143 Nov 11, 2014
Ukraine Army Total Destruction in DONETSK 12

Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#144 Nov 11, 2014
Putin is arming separatists.
Zeppelin

Knoxville, TN

#145 Nov 11, 2014
RUSSIA AND UKRAINE: NOT THE MILITARY BALANCE YOU THINK

FTA:

"At the time of its creation, the Ukrainian military was considered the fourth most powerful conventional military force in the world, behind only the United States, Russia, and China. However, these forces were allowed to atrophy throughout the post-Soviet period, with virtually no funding provided for the maintenance of equipment or troop training. Reforms were not carried out and there were no attempts at rearmament to replace aging Soviet equipment. As a result, by 2010 only 6,000 ground forces troops were being maintained in a state of constant combat readiness, while all other units would require at least a partial mobilization before being ready for battle. The air force was in a similar state of disarray, with only 31 fighters, 10 bombers, and eight ground attack aircraft considered operational. Even the pilots in these squadrons lacked adequate training. Overall, only 15 percent of all aircraft and helicopters were considered combat ready, and even these often lacked adequately trained crews. With a few exceptions, Navy ships rarely left port. Only four were considered combat ready. Air defense systems were unprepared, in part because of a ban on live exercises that was instituted in the aftermath of the accidental downing of a civilian aircraft during a 2001 exercise."

http://warontherocks.com/2014/11/russia-and-u...
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#146 Nov 11, 2014
Russian kholkhoznik junk would mostly lose if Obama grew a pair.
Balsa Jovovic

Podgorica, Montenegro

#148 Nov 11, 2014
Arming Terrorists in Ukraine and Terrorists in Iraq and Syria.Kiev reign of terror and ISIS Killers behave same,both brutal and thirsty for human blood.
NAZTY Ukrainians

Wardsboro, VT

#149 Nov 11, 2014
Zeppelin wrote:
Very good article! Quote:
"This means that the United States would find itself with little control over how its weapons might be used on the ground.
Look, Zep - it's real simple. Once US weapons are found to be used in any significant quantity and effect, the Russians will just supply same and maybe one better and on and on. This begins a very dangerous game of escalation that can only lead to a dead end for all (pun intended). The weapons flow so far has been VERY restrained and measured to counter Ukie regroupings.

The sooner the Ukrainians understand that either they seriously negotiate with Donbass or recognize a de facto secession and leave, the better it'll be for them. Personally, I think the negotiation phase is gone for good. They cannot take Donbass alone and they can't take it without the outside help that will just escalate the war beyond anyone's wishes.

And the sooner Washington and Brussels understand it, the better the world will be for it.

This is not Kosovo. This is a potential planet buster, all over a bunch of stupid and vile Ukie fascists attacking the East. Good God, what a madhouse.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#150 Nov 11, 2014
NAZTY Ukrainians wrote:
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Look, Zep - it's real simple. Once US weapons are found to be used in any significant quantity and effect, the Russians will just supply same and maybe one better and on and on. This begins a very dangerous game of escalation that can only lead to a dead end for all (pun intended). The weapons flow so far has been VERY restrained and measured to counter Ukie regroupings.
The sooner the Ukrainians understand that either they seriously negotiate with Donbass or recognize a de facto secession and leave, the better it'll be for them. Personally, I think the negotiation phase is gone for good. They cannot take Donbass alone and they can't take it without the outside help that will just escalate the war beyond anyone's wishes.
And the sooner Washington and Brussels understand it, the better the world will be for it.
This is not Kosovo. This is a potential planet buster, all over a bunch of stupid and vile Ukie fascists attacking the East. Good God, what a madhouse.
You are real strategist also, eh. How excatly is Putinko going to replace massive losses if money is running out. Every tank lost in that East ukra dive is too much for russian kholkhozniks.

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