Republicans go from anti-gay to no way on ...

Feb 25, 2014 Full story: KEX-AM Portland 11

With all but three Republicans in the Arizona legislature voting for a bill characterized as anti-gay, and with every Democrat in opposition, the early betting was that Arizona Governor Jan Brewer would sign SB 1062.

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#1 Feb 25, 2014
In a way, this is a good thing.

Recent advances in equality for all Americans have caused the right wing haters to go berserk and embrace policies that would be more at home in Uganda, Nigeria and Russia than here in America.

Jan Brewer may hold the fate of right wing "conservatism" in the palm of her hand.

If she vetoes the bill (which I suspect she will do) it will deal a body blow to the anti-equality wing of the republican base. If she signs the bill into law, or allows it to become law without her signature, the republican party will be tainted by the most radical, hateful voices in their midst and Arizona will be seen as North America's version of Uganda.

We'll know in a few days whether reason will prevail, or if the extremist will once and for all claim leadership of an embattled conservative movement.

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#2 Feb 25, 2014
Jaxxon wrote:
In a way, this is a good thing.
Recent advances in equality for all Americans have caused the right wing haters to go berserk and embrace policies that would be more at home in Uganda, Nigeria and Russia than here in America.
Jan Brewer may hold the fate of right wing "conservatism" in the palm of her hand.
If she vetoes the bill (which I suspect she will do) it will deal a body blow to the anti-equality wing of the republican base. If she signs the bill into law, or allows it to become law without her signature, the republican party will be tainted by the most radical, hateful voices in their midst and Arizona will be seen as North America's version of Uganda.
We'll know in a few days whether reason will prevail, or if the extremist will once and for all claim leadership of an embattled conservative movement.
get off the drugs.

how can you compare the usa with other nations that practice rampant fascism?

are you one of those anti-American americans like jane fonda? FU.

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#3 Feb 25, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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get off the drugs.
how can you compare the usa with other nations that practice rampant fascism?
are you one of those anti-American americans like jane fonda? FU.
I'm an American citizen and an Honorably Discharged United States Veteran. So is the man I married so save the bullsh*t and rhetoric for someone else.

I make the comparison because the comparison exists.

The same right wing American Evangelicals that helped write and promote Uganda's anti-gay laws are the ones that helped write and sponsor the same types of laws both in Kansas and Arizona.

If you don't like the comparison, stop hanging out with anti-American fascists.

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#4 Feb 25, 2014
Jaxxon wrote:
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I'm an American citizen and an Honorably Discharged United States Veteran. So is the man I married so save the bullsh*t and rhetoric for someone else.
I make the comparison because the comparison exists.
The same right wing American Evangelicals that helped write and promote Uganda's anti-gay laws are the ones that helped write and sponsor the same types of laws both in Kansas and Arizona.
If you don't like the comparison, stop hanging out with anti-American fascists.
do you really expect me to believe your bullshit?

you say the comparison exists? do you even know what a fascist is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

comparing the usa to the likes of hitler or Mussolini is an insult to our country.

as for being anti-American, YOU are the one bad mouthing americans and America. FU.

if the churches don't want gays in their churches, that's their choice. if YOU don't like it, go hangout in some gay bar. a CHOICE.

YOUR gay rights are not GREATER than MY rights. GET IT?

YOU remind of those jesus freaks and latterday saints who go around harassing me with your religion. or smokers who smoke in my face when I tell them to stop.

I don't like it. and it is MY right not to be exposed to it.

YOU gays don't have the right to force your lifestyle down our throats.

if you want a church that allows your beliefs, then, START one up. I promise you I won't go and harass your church because you are practicing something I don't believe in.

get the picture, genius?

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#5 Feb 26, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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do you really expect me to believe your bullshit?
you say the comparison exists? do you even know what a fascist is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
comparing the usa to the likes of hitler or Mussolini is an insult to our country.
as for being anti-American, YOU are the one bad mouthing americans and America. FU.
if the churches don't want gays in their churches, that's their choice. if YOU don't like it, go hangout in some gay bar. a CHOICE.
YOUR gay rights are not GREATER than MY rights. GET IT?
YOU remind of those jesus freaks and latterday saints who go around harassing me with your religion. or smokers who smoke in my face when I tell them to stop.
I don't like it. and it is MY right not to be exposed to it.
YOU gays don't have the right to force your lifestyle down our throats.
if you want a church that allows your beliefs, then, START one up. I promise you I won't go and harass your church because you are practicing something I don't believe in.
get the picture, genius?
In the first place, what the hell gave you the idea that I care what you believe?

Second, yes I know what a fascist is. I'm posting to one right now.

Third, you're wrong. You do not have the right not to be exposed to it. Gay people don't have to live their lives in the closet just because some bigot with a bible isn't comfortable seeing us out in public .

Fourth, there's no need to start a new church. My husband and I were married by an ordained minister in a Christian denomination that believes in marriage equality.

Every American citizen is guaranteed equal protections under our constitution. That includes gay people. If you can't learn to live with that, you can go live in Uganda, or Nigeria, or Russia where your beliefs are more in vogue.

Just to make this clear, I understand your anger. I just don't care.

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#6 Feb 26, 2014
Here's just a partial list of Christian denominations in America that will perform and /or bless same sex marriages and/or unions.

United Church of Christ

Quaker

Metropolitan Community Church

Unitarian Universalist

Unity Church

Episcopal - In the Episcopal Church, priests are authorized to bless same-sex wedding ceremonies

Lutheran - Lutheran churches can decide, on a church-by-church basis, whether or not to perform same-sex marriage.

Methodist - More than 1,000 Methodist ministers have signed a pledge to continue performing and blessing same-sex marriages.

Presbyterian Church (USA)- The Presbyterian Church USA General Assembly Permanent Judicial Commission (PJC) has ruled that same-sex ceremonies are not forbidden

There are dozens of others and the list is growing.

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#7 Feb 26, 2014
SEE YA!

Staggering Number Of Millennials Who Left Their Religion
Did It Because Of Anti-Gay Policies

One-Third Of Millennials Who Left Their Religion Did It Because Of Anti-Gay Policies: Survey

In a survey released Wednesday, nearly one-third of Millennials who left the faith they grow up with told Public Religion Research Institute that it was "negative teachings" or "negative treatment" related to gays and lesbians that played an significant role in them leaving organized religion.

Specifically, 17 percent of Millennials, or adults between 18 and 33-years-old, said negativity around LGBT issues in religion was "somewhat important" to their departure, while 14 percent said it was a "very important" factor.

A majority of Americans, 58 percent, also said that religious groups are "alienating young adults by being too judgmental on gay and lesbian issues." Among Millennials, that percentage jumped to 70.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/26/mill...

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#8 Feb 26, 2014
Jaxxon wrote:
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In the first place, what the hell gave you the idea that I care what you believe?
Second, yes I know what a fascist is. I'm posting to one right now.
Third, you're wrong. You do not have the right not to be exposed to it. Gay people don't have to live their lives in the closet just because some bigot with a bible isn't comfortable seeing us out in public .
Fourth, there's no need to start a new church. My husband and I were married by an ordained minister in a Christian denomination that believes in marriage equality.
Every American citizen is guaranteed equal protections under our constitution. That includes gay people. If you can't learn to live with that, you can go live in Uganda, or Nigeria, or Russia where your beliefs are more in vogue.
Just to make this clear, I understand your anger. I just don't care.
get off the drugs, you MFer.

first off, the fact that you don't care what I say is the problem with you liberals. you think YOUR rights are above everybody elses.

such arrogance.

you cannot even see the hypocritical position you are taking up. again, get off the drugs.

if I don't want somebody in my home, that is my RIGHT. this is all about private property, trespass and torts. you may walk into my home, but if I for whatever reason tell you to get out, that is my RIGHT to do so.

it is the same right that prohibits the police from entering our homes without a warrant.

if some church doesn't want to accommodate you gays, that is their RIGHT.

look it up in the civil rights act of 1964, dumbass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=...
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marb20....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Propo...
http://forums.thenest.com/discussion/2447209/...

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#9 Feb 26, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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get off the drugs, you MFer.
first off, the fact that you don't care what I say is the problem with you liberals. you think YOUR rights are above everybody elses.
such arrogance.
you cannot even see the hypocritical position you are taking up. again, get off the drugs.
if I don't want somebody in my home, that is my RIGHT. this is all about private property, trespass and torts. you may walk into my home, but if I for whatever reason tell you to get out, that is my RIGHT to do so.
it is the same right that prohibits the police from entering our homes without a warrant.
if some church doesn't want to accommodate you gays, that is their RIGHT.
look it up in the civil rights act of 1964, dumbass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=...
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marb20....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Propo...
http://forums.thenest.com/discussion/2447209/...
Nice bait and switch, but we're talking about a law that allows discrimination in public life, not private.

There's no question that a church doesn't have to accept gay members, or perform same sex marriages (that's protected by the 1st amendment) and there is no question that we all have the right to decide who we will allow into our homes...there's no debate about that so I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about.

If you don't even have the capacity to understand the issue at hand what are you doing here in the first place moron?

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#10 Feb 27, 2014
Jaxxon wrote:
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Nice bait and switch, but we're talking about a law that allows discrimination in public life, not private.
There's no question that a church doesn't have to accept gay members, or perform same sex marriages (that's protected by the 1st amendment) and there is no question that we all have the right to decide who we will allow into our homes...there's no debate about that so I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about.
If you don't even have the capacity to understand the issue at hand what are you doing here in the first place moron?
oh really? do you even know what SB 1062 is all about?

I suggest you read up some.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/s...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1062
http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-governor-vetoes...

churches are currently exempt from the civil rights act of 1964. but these people who are pushing for SB 1062 want churches to be included.

READ THE FINE PRINT, genius.
Genius

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#11 Feb 27, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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oh really? do you even know what SB 1062 is all about?
I suggest you read up some.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/s...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1062
http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-governor-vetoes...
churches are currently exempt from the civil rights act of 1964. but these people who are pushing for SB 1062 want churches to be included.
READ THE FINE PRINT, genius.
F u chop suey.

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