Top military leader outlines costs, risks on Syria

Jul 22, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

In this July 18, 2013 file photo, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, appears before the Senate Armed Services Committee for a hearing to consider his reappointment to the military's highest post, on Capitol Hill in Washington.

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Obama had 4 years to change the country for the better.

Seriously, can anyone name one good thing this guy's done for America?

I need not explain how he and his corrupt guttertrash Chicago mafia handlers have made everything worse. Simply look around with your own lying eyes for proof.

In some aspects Obama is right when he says ((("you didn't build/create that, government did.")))

Let's look at what this administration has created in 4 short years:

-Socialist eugenics based health care (((Obamacare)))

-NDAA (((National Defense Authorization Act))) where Americans can be disappeared without a jury

-Out of control (((Crony Capitalism)))-government picks winners and losers based on payouts -not free market eg. Solyndra, GM, GE, MF Global, Numerous Bank Bailouts, Cancelling Keystone Pipleline, No Prosecution of criminal Banksters

-(((Skyrocketing Unemployment and Outsourcing)))-The idea that welfare checks/EBT cards are paychecks

-(((Fast and Furious))) and other suspected domestic false flags like Aurora CO to argue for abolishing the 2nd ammendmant

-Massive (((TSA expansion))) onto America's streets and armed (((survellance drones/now blimps))) operating over US territory.

-(((UN control of U.S. military troops to invade))) Egypt, Syria, parts of Africa, etc. for offshore bankers aka Nazism

-(((Trickle Down Government))) The idea that nothing can be built without (((more government bureaucrats and global warming regulations/taxes))) getting in the way

-(((Throwing Israel -an important ally- under the bus))) by destabalizing all the county's around it but not offering them any assurances of protection

-A(((continuation of Bush's failed policies))), like not getting out of Iraq, Afghanastan, and no closing of Guantanamo torture camps

-(((Polaraized race relations))) eg. Disrespectful hadling of the Treyvon Martin family after his murder -opportunistic my son would have looked like Treyvon soundbite- and media staged racial infighting between Americans

-(((No Proof Obama supposedly got Osama)))) America was never really allowed to see the body/proof ; -)

-(((Defunding of NASA))) No exploration of the stars for the U.S., leave that to countries that are exceptional

-(((No Plan/ or Budget to Fix Anything if he is re-elected )))-always says what you want to hear, then does the exact opposite hoping you''ll forget by the next speech -(((Sociopathic Liar)))

-(((Obamaphone)))-Massive expansion of this program for his dependant voting base

-(((Unlimited QE3 leading to hyperinflation/ monopoly money))) Dollar is rapidly losing purchasing power resulting in skyrocketing food and GAS PRICES (especially for "green gas" in CA)

-(((Needed a tainted Creepy Crawley moderator to hold his hand during the 2nd debate))) weak affirmative action President

- My favorite (((Legalizing the illegals))) temporarily until the election is over but not offering true immigration reform

Obama's 2nd Term

(((BenghaziGate))) Obama lied, our troops died -bigger than Watergate, this is outright treason -funny how Obama threw Clinton under the bus

(((IRS Gate))) Uses IRS storm troopers to go after political enemies by targeting foes for audits and leaking classified tax information -both felonies

(((Mediagate-Boston CIA Gate))) Trying to chill journalists by tapping their phone conversations -even spying on Associated Press and other old liberal allies

(((NSA/PRISM Spy Gate))) Persecuting whistleblowers like Snowden and now bumping off journalists who expose illegal phone/net wiretapping on public

(((Holdergate))) Is Holder is supposed to supervise all these hearings? He should be in jail over Oklahoma city, Fast and Furious, and Wall Street corruption. Laws without enforcement are useless.

What the hell does it take to get impeached or is Obama now a bonafide dictator?

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Yaaay more peace prize wars.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/u...

You don't mind domestic spying yet? Wait till the government starts using your stollen private info to blackmail YOU into comitting crimes on their behalf. Welcome to modern day tyranny -high tech style.

Merger of state and corporation always = fascism/tyranny. Remember, we Americans will only recieve what we are willing put up with. They are testing us righ now. Let's push back.

Mainstream media leaves you depressed, dumbed down, empty and hopeless. What kind of crap will they focus on next to distract us from what's really important?

Truth based media gives you a heads up and broadens your horizons. It protects your family, health, and life savings. It's your decision...

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Once you have a taste of truthful reporting you never go back to mainstream contrived corporate media.

These hosts bash Republicans and Democrats equally because they know both sides are illuminati bought puppets out to screw us.

Give alternative news sources a chance before you knock them. Download these shows to your MP3 players and listen on your way to work or whatever. All you need from mainstream media is breaking news and traffic/weather. You can listen to all these shows on your smart phone as well.

Exposes US Gov Corruption and Global Wide Illuminati Plots

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https://www.youtube.com/watch... (Skip around, you'll learn something useful)

Exposes Wallstreet and absolutely teaches you how to protect your money from the crooked banksters

http://www.philsgang.com/pgfreeshowarchives.a...

Exposes Secret/Ancient Knowledge Suppressed In Modern History Books and suppressed medical cures/prevention for diseases like cancer, etc. This guy is a medical doctor.

http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/

Often Exposes NASA Disinformation and Possible Offworld Intelligence -Search "Coast to Coast 2012 Shows" on Youtube and listen or use downloader -This is one way /Or get a CC Witness radio and record AM from your local affiliate. There is CIA disinfo injected from some of the guests but you learn how to identify it after a while by researching the guests' backgrounds. The hosts are simply great.

http://www.youtube.com/user/C2CVAULT...

Connects Bible Predictions/Prophecy to Modern Day Events -How Illuminati uses bible prophecy to plan false flag disasters eg. earthquakes, etc. There could also be some CIA brainwashing here as well from some of the guest lecturers but they give a heads up of what to look out for/predict down the road. The host does a good job of teaching about the bible and does not fear political correctness.

http://prophecyclub.com/TPC_Audio_Video.html

These radio hosts should do a show together or at least make guest appearences on each others shows. They all value truth and liberty in their own way.

Here's my take on it. Don't be afraid to speak out as we are all on some type of list by now:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

You have to understand that free speech on the net is about to be clamped down on in America.-mainland China style.
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So we know that cost and risk are great but how about the cause is it just to cause bail out the armed attackers of their own government just because other Arab countries has done so?

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amcummer wrote:
So we know that cost and risk are great but how about the cause is it just to cause bail out the armed attackers of their own government just because other Arab countries has done so?
It has nothing to do with Syria in general. Syria is a chess board pawn.

The goal is Iran.

Syria and Iran have a defensive pact. If Iran comes to the aid of Syria against the western funded and armed uprising, this will give the United states the excuse they need to invade Iran.

All of this goes back to 1953 and the use of the Petro dollar
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Kahoki wrote:
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It has nothing to do with Syria in general. Syria is a chess board pawn.
The goal is Iran.
Syria and Iran have a defensive pact. If Iran comes to the aid of Syria against the western funded and armed uprising, this will give the United states the excuse they need to invade Iran.
All of this goes back to 1953 and the use of the Petro dollar
Who can say that the uprising is deliberate act like you describe it it looks like it just happened like in Egypt where no USA interest is at stake. I wouldn't assume that that could be the case with what's the country where the Arab fire had started.

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<quoted text> Who can say that the uprising is deliberate act like you describe it it looks like it just happened like in Egypt where no USA interest is at stake. I wouldn't assume that that could be the case with what's the country where the Arab fire had started.
It did not just happen. Egypt did not just happen. The US's fingers have been all over it.

Of course the media in the US fails to tell the truth. Or, they tell small bits of truth in order for it to fit in with their predesribed notions.

But since you mentioned Egypt, let's take a good look at Egypt.

Mubarack was funded and supported by the US Government. Clinton established the rendition program that was conducted in Egypt. With the dumping of money into all financial system and debasing the currency that the fed is doing. Food costs in Egypt were going up, unemployment for those from 18-35 years was near 35%, and the avreage day pay in Egypt was $10.00.

With this manipulation and Mubaracks support for the US, the animosity and call for a change in direction began to take root. Could anyone blame the people? Absolutely not. But, the US hijacked the movement through the Egyptian military. Since the Egyptian military receives millions of dollars in aid and weapons, the military stepped into and removed Mubarack.

The Military commander Al-Sisi through his support behind Morsi because Hitlery basically instructed him to in order to keep receiving the monies his military was getting.

However, Morsi over stepped his bounds and basically claimed dictatorial powers. Which caused the next uprising.

So here comes the military again. They remove Morsi and who do they support? El Baradi. Now this guy is a part of several global think with..........George Soros and Nigble Bryzenski.

So the US hijacked the revolt yet again and another US puppet will take the reigns on the Egyptian government.

But why would the US do this? Oil and Suez canal. Easier access to Iran.

Now that is where Syria comes into play. Baiting for an Iranian intervention so the US can invade Iran.

Iran is the goal. Learn the history of the Petrol dollar and look at US actions in Iran since 1953.
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Kahoki wrote:
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It did not just happen. Egypt did not just happen. The US's fingers have been all over it.
Of course the media in the US fails to tell the truth. Or, they tell small bits of truth in order for it to fit in with their predesribed notions.
But since you mentioned Egypt, let's take a good look at Egypt.
Mubarack was funded and supported by the US Government. Clinton established the rendition program that was conducted in Egypt. With the dumping of money into all financial system and debasing the currency that the fed is doing. Food costs in Egypt were going up, unemployment for those from 18-35 years was near 35%, and the avreage day pay in Egypt was $10.00.
With this manipulation and Mubaracks support for the US, the animosity and call for a change in direction began to take root. Could anyone blame the people? Absolutely not. But, the US hijacked the movement through the Egyptian military. Since the Egyptian military receives millions of dollars in aid and weapons, the military stepped into and removed Mubarack.
The Military commander Al-Sisi through his support behind Morsi because Hitlery basically instructed him to in order to keep receiving the monies his military was getting.
However, Morsi over stepped his bounds and basically claimed dictatorial powers. Which caused the next uprising.
So here comes the military again. They remove Morsi and who do they support? El Baradi. Now this guy is a part of several global think with..........George Soros and Nigble Bryzenski.
So the US hijacked the revolt yet again and another US puppet will take the reigns on the Egyptian government.
But why would the US do this? Oil and Suez canal. Easier access to Iran.
Now that is where Syria comes into play. Baiting for an Iranian intervention so the US can invade Iran.
Iran is the goal. Learn the history of the Petrol dollar and look at US actions in Iran since 1953.
So you have information regarding this political bag of beans or you're just speculating?

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amcummer wrote:
<quoted text> So you have information regarding this political bag of beans or you're just speculating?
It's scattered through out the world's news. Rueters, AP, BBC. RT, Al Jazeera, everything from over seas. Not here in the US.

The US media does nothing but read from a script and lies to spin information in the direction they want it to go.

A good source. The Financial Times. But, the Saturday edition only. They release it on Saturday because it is outside of the main news cycle. And they bury it on the last couple of pages. The NY Times does the exact same thing.

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Kahoki wrote:
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It has nothing to do with Syria in general. Syria is a chess board pawn.
The goal is Iran.
Syria and Iran have a defensive pact. If Iran comes to the aid of Syria against the western funded and armed uprising, this will give the United states the excuse they need to invade Iran.
All of this goes back to 1953 and the use of the Petro dollar
and Russia and china are just going to sit on their thumbs when we invade iran?
i don't think so...
your scenario is the start of world war 3...
i don't think the nwo's goal is to rule over a war ravaged world

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and Russia and china are just going to sit on their thumbs when we invade iran?
i don't think so...
your scenario is the start of world war 3...
*Ding Ding Ding*

"Gutter, tell him what he's won."

Order out of chaos.

People tend to forget that it was Dick Cheney who put out in a white paper the desire to start a war with Russia. It was Also Dick Cheney who put forth a plan to use Navy Seals in Iranian colors to attack a Naval warship as a pretext to war with Iran until the Navy told him to go shove it.

Out of the ashes will come a new order. Order out of chaos.

But as I stated above, this all goes into the use of Petrodollar and the US coup in Iran in 1953.

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ObamaCallsForCalm-Again wrote:
Obama had 4 years to change the country for the better.
Seriously, can anyone name one good thing this guy's done for America?
Sure, he got healthcare reform passed, DADT repealed, Hate Crimes legislation expanded, and brought the country out of the Bush Depression of '08 among other things.

Any more questions?

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Kahoki wrote:
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It has nothing to do with Syria in general. Syria is a chess board pawn.
The goal is Iran.
Syria and Iran have a defensive pact. If Iran comes to the aid of Syria against the western funded and armed uprising, this will give the United states the excuse they need to invade Iran.
All of this goes back to 1953 and the use of the Petro dollar
Everything we've ever done in the middle east is tied directly to oil.

Does ANYONE believe we'd care how many of their own people they slaughter in those sandy crapholes if they didn't sit on billions of barrels of oil?

I say we nuke all the oil fields and let them go back to humping camels.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Everything we've ever done in the middle east is tied directly to oil.
Does ANYONE believe we'd care how many of their own people they slaughter in those sandy crapholes if they didn't sit on billions of barrels of oil?
I say we nuke all the oil fields and let them go back to humping camels.
In Egypt it all revolves around the Petrodollar, the Suez Canal, and the Sumed pipeline.

Now, this could be just a coincidence, however, it is a very unique coincidence.

What happened in late 2000? Saddam Hussein began selling oil to the EU. Actually he was selling oil to Europe for a long time, however, in late 2000, Saddam Hussein started something different when selling oil to the EU. He began to accept Euros instead of dollars. What happened immediately? Saddam Hussein has WMDs and we have to invade.

In 2006, Ghaddafi began the sale of all African resources no longer in dollars, but, in the Gold Dinar. A solid gold currency. 4 years later. Ghaddafi is killed.

Now, what has Iran started to do? The selling of oil to China and Russia and accept that countries specific currency or gold.

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