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Local former Navy sailor responds to the Senate's failure to repeal...

There are 9 comments on the WTKR story from Sep 21, 2010, titled Local former Navy sailor responds to the Senate's failure to repeal.... In it, WTKR reports that:

Today, the United States Senate blocked a bill that would have repealed the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

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Estabrook_Reside nt

United States

#1 Sep 22, 2010
This is what I'm talking about! It's normal people who are being devalued and asked to leave at the expense of a few. What a shame that the politicians are awaiting the return of a poorly administered survey to decide that DADT needs to be repealed, instead of using the results of those surveys to administer the services post-repeal. These soldiers and sailors aren't asking for anything more than is granted to everyone else who is sering.
Spike

Virginia Beach, VA

#2 Sep 22, 2010
Ok, if you've never been stationed on a ship, DO NOT comment on changing this policy. I am now retired, and I'm pretty sure there were a FEW gays serving while I was active duty, BUT, the system worked. Why should the vast majority of military members be made to feel uncomfortable? Let me ask this, would women be comfortable showering in a stall next to a man? Would women be comfortable sharing a locker room with men? Although it would be wrong, I also see hate crimes increasing if the policy is repealed. Imagine to pictures of ships returning from deployment, or soldiers and Marines returning from battle, running up and kissing their same sex partner, I don't think that most people in this country would accept that.
Jimbo

Chesapeake, VA

#3 Sep 22, 2010
The media is going to lead you to believe that this happened basically because of homophobic Republicans. There are several more sides to the story. Im going to make 3 or 4 separate postings to try to explain them all. This bill did not come to a vote because of Harry Reid dirty tricks as usual. He attached it to the defense appropriation bill so people had to vote for it or be accused of not supporting our troops. That in-your-face ploy turned off a lot of people.
Jimbo

Chesapeake, VA

#4 Sep 22, 2010
There is a study, which I’m sure has cost a lot of money already, that will be completed very shortly (compared to the years in policy has been in effect) to help people decide whether the DADT policy should be repealed. Some senators and I would like to see the results before making a final decision. What is its purpose if one must vote on the bill before the results are published?
Jimbo

Chesapeake, VA

#5 Sep 22, 2010
Reid attached another rider to the bill called his DREAM plan which panders to illegal aliens. That raised the hairs on a lot of peoples neck.
Jimbo

Chesapeake, VA

#6 Sep 22, 2010
Almost finished. One key republican who said she supports repeal and will vote that way would not vote for it now because Reid set it up so no amendments to the bill could be considered and she thought that was unfair to her fellow senators. So if this policy is causing some service people hardship, lay the blame where it belongs.

“Truth fears not investigation!”

Since: Aug 10

Moyock, NC

#7 Sep 22, 2010
Jimbo wrote:
Almost finished. One key republican who said she supports repeal and will vote that way would not vote for it now because Reid set it up so no amendments to the bill could be considered and she thought that was unfair to her fellow senators. So if this policy is causing some service people hardship, lay the blame where it belongs.
You make some outstanding points. Well said.
Estabrook_Reside nt

United States

#8 Sep 22, 2010
I agree with Senator Collins rationale for her vote. I understand her motivation for not being able to do more, but throwing out the same old arguments as were done by the gentleman from Arkansas is uncool. It was a day of BS politics on either side, I agree. I wish that innocent servicemen and women werent being caught in the crossfires though.
American Infidel

Portsmouth, VA

#9 Sep 23, 2010
If gays can't openly serve in the U.S. Armed forces, neither should they serve in government positions, nor should those that don't pay their taxes, have unpaid bills, have filed falsefied travel reports, convicted of racketeering, having convictions of DUIs, being convicted of contributing to the deliquency of a minor, convicted of spousal abuse and battery, being charged with sexual harrassment, having sex with a minor and obstructing justice, bribery, tax evasion, racketeering, conspiracy. Number of members of Congress who escaped tickets and/or arrest from a variety of driving offenses ranging from speeding to DUI in 1999 due to Congressional immunity: 217
Number of members of Congress who were released after being pulled over for drunken driving in 1998 by claiming Congressional immunity: 84
But no one is clamering about those CRIMINALS in the Senate/Congress. They keep getting re-elected!

Gays have served honorably for centuries in the military. Some of history's greates military leaders have been gay. Look it up. The gays I knew while on active duty were top performers. I never saw any of those gays going to Captains' Mast for any UCMJ violation that 'straights' were charged with. I even knew an E-6 U.S. Marine with 14 years in who was 'penciled in' for duty at the office of the Commandant of the Marine Corps until one of her troops turned her in for being a lesbian. Within 2 weeks, she was a civilian. Everyone in her unit was surprised. Top marks across the board and she was kicked out (long story as how she was 'outted').
We have more to worry about than taking a shower with a gay.

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