GOP Presidential Hopefuls Shift On Gl...

GOP Presidential Hopefuls Shift On Global Warming

There are 66 comments on the WCCO story from May 27, 2011, titled GOP Presidential Hopefuls Shift On Global Warming. In it, WCCO reports that:

For Republican presidential contenders who once supported combatting global warming, the race is heating up.

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pleak scratcha iballlllll

Scottsdale, AZ

#1 May 27, 2011
Glowball Warma again? ;-000000h, El Gok vs. Push

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#2 May 27, 2011
Here is truly an example of a race to the bottom; urged on by superstition and ignorance.

Pure superstition is the only possible explanation for actually believing that global warming is not real, and a great threat; and is not caused by human activity and our releases of CO2 in our mechanized age.

To embrace this position, knowing it is a lie, or superstition driven is the worst form of pandering.

We will watch the "GOP Hopefuls" pander their way to the bottom.
Lance Winslow

Aptos, CA

#3 May 27, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
Here is truly an example of a race to the bottom; urged on by superstition and ignorance.
Pure superstition is the only possible explanation for actually believing that global warming is not real, and a great threat; and is not caused by human activity and our releases of CO2 in our mechanized age.
To embrace this position, knowing it is a lie, or superstition driven is the worst form of pandering.
We will watch the "GOP Hopefuls" pander their way to the bottom.
I don't believe it's superstition, rather it's simply ignorance. We've seen exactly the same for a century and a half in regard to Darwin's theorem. We see such stupidity reiteratively in Topix posts. Remember, for everybody with an IQ of 110, there's a 90 out there.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#4 May 27, 2011
Lance Winslow wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe it's superstition, rather it's simply ignorance. We've seen exactly the same for a century and a half in regard to Darwin's theorem. We see such stupidity reiteratively in Topix posts. Remember, for everybody with an IQ of 110, there's a 90 out there.
To be sure, I went to Merriam Webster, and also Encarta (MSN)

MW: Definition of SUPERSTITION
1a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition

2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary

Encarta:
1. irrational belief: an irrational, but usually deep-seated belief in the magical effects of a specific action or ritual, especially in the likelihood that good or bad luck will result from performing it

2. irrational beliefs: irrational and often quasi-religious belief in and reverence for the magical effects of some actions and rituals or the magical powers of some objects.

I'll stick to superstition, as ignorance in the face of knowledge is beyond willful ignorance; it is, plainly superstition.
No different than whistling past the graveyard, knocking on wood, or tossing salt over the shoulder.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#5 May 27, 2011
In order to get in, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie had to give up his "Cap and Trade" climate mitigation plans. We won't vote for a President who will sign climate treaties, we want our President to use climate treaties as toilet paper.
true

Wirtz, VA

#6 May 27, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
Here is truly an example of a race to the bottom; urged on by superstition and ignorance.
Pure superstition is the only possible explanation for actually believing that global warming is not real, and a great threat; and is not caused by human activity and our releases of CO2 in our mechanized age.
To embrace this position, knowing it is a lie, or superstition driven is the worst form of pandering.
We will watch the "GOP Hopefuls" pander their way to the bottom.
Wether real or not a carbon tax paid to world banks aka al gore chicago carbon exchange is not going to solve anything when they ship our industry over seas where china and india dont give a sh^t or will follow the same rules they burdon our country with.
let alone al gore waving his majic wand making everything better the science proves all the global warmest propose to do amounts to nothing as far as stopping the supposed claims=fact
just another sign our government is corporate owned and run by elitist demons from hell
Ho Lee Schitt

Doylestown, PA

#7 May 27, 2011
For rethugs and teabaggers ideology trumps sound science every time! What a bunch of total ignoramuses!

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#8 May 27, 2011
The left doesn't have ideas, they have insults.
pleak scratcha iballlllll

Scottsdale, AZ

#9 May 27, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
Here is truly an example of a race to the bottom; urged on by superstition and ignorance.
Pure superstition is the only possible explanation for actually believing that global warming is not real, and a great threat; and is not caused by human activity and our releases of CO2 in our mechanized age.
To embrace this position, knowing it is a lie, or superstition driven is the worst form of pandering.
We will watch the "GOP Hopefuls" pander their way to the bottom.
warma is not real Dr. Bill_mr! U can call for da meeting with astronomy.net ! ;-00000h, remember mention Crab Nebulas is mi name!
pleak scratcha iballlllll

Scottsdale, AZ

#10 May 27, 2011
Brian_G wrote:
In order to get in, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie had to give up his "Cap and Trade" climate mitigation plans. We won't vote for a President who will sign climate treaties, we want our President to use climate treaties as toilet paper.
C02 is Carbing Obama Osama? ;-000

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#11 May 27, 2011
2012 is a ratification of the right to emit CO2. Either the government has the right and authority to mitigate climate change, or it doesn't. See which way the fools jump.
litesong

Arlington, WA

#12 May 27, 2011
brian_g stumble butt wrote:
The left doesn't have ideas, they have insults.
'brian_g stumble butt' considers his alleged or proud threats (seven at last count) to be better than insults.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#13 May 28, 2011
Not a threat, a promise. We can read the writing on the wall, climate change mitigation is hoax. Make that eight, we will vote the climate mitigators out of office and onto the streets, to join the climate litigators. We each have an individual right to climate and freedom to move or dwell as we can afford. Climate change is not a threat, climate crisis is. Climate change is a promise the future can't fail to deliver, if you wait long enough.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#14 May 28, 2011
The GOP would be fools to offer plans to manage or mitigate climate change. Let the Democratic Party take that platform, let the GOP help us deal with the climate we have, it's enough to recover and grow. If we need a smart grid, it must take input from fossil fuel as easily as input from wind or solar power, and that added specification adds complexity, expense and risk. Consumers and producers need an open market, without government interference and tax, to create best practice solutions.

Let the market work, and focus government on it's own bloated growth and spending. Elect Tea Party Conservatives to regulate government growth, not climate change.
pleak scratcha iballlllll

Scottsdale, AZ

#15 May 28, 2011
Brian_G wrote:
Not a threat, a promise. We can read the writing on the wall, climate change mitigation is hoax. Make that eight, we will vote the climate mitigators out of office and onto the streets, to join the climate litigators. We each have an individual right to climate and freedom to move or dwell as we can afford. Climate change is not a threat, climate crisis is. Climate change is a promise the future can't fail to deliver, if you wait long enough.
do U like! almanac-stand? ;-00000
Steve Kissell

Lawrenceburg, IN

#16 Jul 24, 2011
When will the Repugs admit global warming?
They deny water pollution as long as they make profits! They deny air pollution as long as they make profits! And they deny soil pollution as long as they make profits!
We have the hottest weather in the midwest on record, yet global warming is false. We have more hurricanes per yer that any time on record and global warming is false. Bet if they could make mass profits with a cancer cure it would already be out!
What a bunch of morons!
Steve Kissell

Lawrenceburg, IN

#17 Jul 24, 2011
Climate mitigation will only work when all the world works co-operatively. We can not have us trying to keep the air clean while others turn out even more pollution and expect the plan to work! All must work together.
While the Repugnants doubt global warming and call it a hoax, the atmosphere continues to rise in CO2 pollutants.
Let me ask you this, if someone pi$$ed into your well, would accept it or protest? Well the world is Pi$$ing in my water, air, and soil, as well as yours. Even though you don't taste it or smell it, it is there!
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#18 Jul 24, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
Here is truly an example of a race to the bottom; urged on by superstition and ignorance.
Pure superstition is the only possible explanation for actually believing that global warming is not real, and a great threat; and is not caused by human activity and our releases of CO2 in our mechanized age.
To embrace this position, knowing it is a lie, or superstition driven is the worst form of pandering.
We will watch the "GOP Hopefuls" pander their way to the bottom.
Like most "left-wing scientific illiterates" you simply accept the AGW sound-bites you hear from the "left-wing scientific illiterate" media.

Do you even know that the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" relies on heat flowing from a Cold Atmosphere to a Warmer Earth and HEATING THE WARMER EARTH?

It's all in the "science fiction" IPCC AR4 Report and you can read all about it here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

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The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states:

“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow. Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...

That's why NO AGW'er Idiot and NO AGW'er "QUACK SCIENTIST" can produce:

- Even ONE Law of Science that supports the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect
- Even ONE Measurement, EVER DONE, that shows that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth

Come on you AGW CULT MEMBER, TELL US WHY YOU CAN'T POST these two simple items??

The "physical reality" is that.... THEY DO NOT EXIST.

In fact, EVERY MEASUREMENT "EVER DONE" PROVES THAT IT IS "NOT POSSIBLE" FOR A COLDER ATMOSPHERE TO HEAT UP A WARMER EARTH....EVER!

Exactly like the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states.

The FACTS are that you are just another Pathetic AGW Cult Member that DENIES all real "Science" and DENIES all "Measurements".

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#19 Jul 24, 2011
Representative Michele Bachmann says climate change mitigation is a hoax. I love Michele.
Steve Kissell

Lawrenceburg, IN

#20 Jul 24, 2011
Gord wrote:
<quoted text>
Like most "left-wing scientific illiterates" you simply accept the AGW sound-bites you hear from the "left-wing scientific illiterate" media.
Do you even know that the fantasy "Greenhouse Effect" relies on heat flowing from a Cold Atmosphere to a Warmer Earth and HEATING THE WARMER EARTH?
It's all in the "science fiction" IPCC AR4 Report and you can read all about it here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
-------
The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states:
“Second Law of Thermodynamics: It is NOT POSSIBLE for heat to flow from a colder body to a warmer body without any work having been done to accomplish this flow. Energy will not flow spontaneously from a low temperature object to a higher temperature object.”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/th...
That's why NO AGW'er Idiot and NO AGW'er "QUACK SCIENTIST" can produce:
- Even ONE Law of Science that supports the Fantasy "Greenhouse Effect
- Even ONE Measurement, EVER DONE, that shows that a Colder Atmosphere can HEAT UP a Warmer Earth
Come on you AGW CULT MEMBER, TELL US WHY YOU CAN'T POST these two simple items??
The "physical reality" is that.... THEY DO NOT EXIST.
In fact, EVERY MEASUREMENT "EVER DONE" PROVES THAT IT IS "NOT POSSIBLE" FOR A COLDER ATMOSPHERE TO HEAT UP A WARMER EARTH....EVER!
Exactly like the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states.
The FACTS are that you are just another Pathetic AGW Cult Member that DENIES all real "Science" and DENIES all "Measurements".
Well you are almost right, but, you failed to add the solar influence in! You probable believe that a white object placed in the sun will get just as hot as a black object!

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