GOP opens probe into climate science e-mails

Nov 25, 2009 Full story: Clover Herald 44

Congressional Republicans are investigating e-mails stolen from a British climate change research center that they say show scientists attempting to suppress data that does not support man-made global warming.

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“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#1 Nov 25, 2009
Great, the Congress has the power to subpoena witnesses, even better, they control some of the budgets that pay those frauds.

Let's get to the bottom of this hoax.
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#2 Nov 25, 2009
Release the data. The scientific community at large has a vested interest in verifying this data. Their very credibility is at stake, if you can't trust scientist #1, then how can you trust #2?

If you were going to take a flu shot and the hacked emails were about how they manipulated the data to show the flu shot was safe, when studies showed it wasn't, would you take the flu shot, would you give to your child?
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#3 Nov 25, 2009
Wonder when the story will break on the MSM? And how they'll spin it?
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#4 Nov 25, 2009
Brian_G wrote:
Great, the Congress has the power to subpoena witnesses, even better, they control some of the budgets that pay those frauds.
Let's get to the bottom of this hoax.
Don't bet on it. The GOP does not have subpoena power, only the congressional committees have that and they are currently all run the party in power. We have to either wait until 2011 (new Congress is seated), rely on the media to uncover the truth, or continue to read the blogs for updates.
Chicago Hope and Change

United States

#5 Nov 25, 2009
Is there no level that the GOP and AGW deniers will stoop too?
To go along with this tread(which would be a total waste of tax payer money), Now they are attacking Science Czar John Holdren!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
This is just another racist attack on Obama in an attempt to harm his administration and Climate goals.

John Holdren has suggested many reasonable policies that are accepted within the academic community as rational conclusions and responses to AGW and over population. Only the right wing nuts and AGW deniers oppose them.

Wake up people!
AGW is the most serious threat to live on earth and some measures which may seem unappealing to some small measure of the population, when viewed through the eye of science are both necessary and unavoidable.

Yes, forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and a world wide governing body to enforce the new polices might seem draconian and be unpopular at first but are the right thing to do so that we can save mankind from the full impact of AGW.

We must act now!
In Copenhagen…the future of the planet depends on it...and like Obama said: We must make the tough decisions, we must not be afraid to make the unpopular choices.
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#6 Nov 25, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
Is there no level that the GOP and AGW deniers will stoop too?
To go along with this tread(which would be a total waste of tax payer money), Now they are attacking Science Czar John Holdren!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
This is just another racist attack on Obama in an attempt to harm his administration and Climate goals.
John Holdren has suggested many reasonable policies that are accepted within the academic community as rational conclusions and responses to AGW and over population. Only the right wing nuts and AGW deniers oppose them.
Wake up people!
AGW is the most serious threat to live on earth and some measures which may seem unappealing to some small measure of the population, when viewed through the eye of science are both necessary and unavoidable.
Yes, forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and a world wide governing body to enforce the new polices might seem draconian and be unpopular at first but are the right thing to do so that we can save mankind from the full impact of AGW.
We must act now!
In Copenhagen…the future of the planet depends on it...and like Obama said: We must make the tough decisions, we must not be afraid to make the unpopular choices.
Exaclty how is denying AGW racist?

“Team YOU'RE D.E.N.I.E.D.”

Since: Oct 09

Lakeside, AZ

#7 Nov 25, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
Is there no level that the GOP and AGW deniers will stoop too?
To go along with this tread(which would be a total waste of tax payer money), Now they are attacking Science Czar John Holdren!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
This is just another racist attack on Obama in an attempt to harm his administration and Climate goals.
John Holdren has suggested many reasonable policies that are accepted within the academic community as rational conclusions and responses to AGW and over population. Only the right wing nuts and AGW deniers oppose them.
Wake up people!
AGW is the most serious threat to live on earth and some measures which may seem unappealing to some small measure of the population, when viewed through the eye of science are both necessary and unavoidable.
Yes, forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and a world wide governing body to enforce the new polices might seem draconian and be unpopular at first but are the right thing to do so that we can save mankind from the full impact of AGW.
We must act now!
In Copenhagen…the future of the planet depends on it...and like Obama said: We must make the tough decisions, we must not be afraid to make the unpopular choices.
YaY we ACTED!

First, we leaked the FREEDOM of ENVIRONMENATAL INFORMATION protected data

THEN, we asked what the SCIENTISTS say about Global Warming:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/climate...

Then we asked them how they SUM it all UP!

Guess what: good news for everybody but pondliner Darwinized MoonBats: the world's not GETTING WARMER !

Merry, merry Christmas hick.

EMAIL #1120593115:

"From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: John Christy <john.christy@nsstc.uah.edu >
Subject: This and that
Date: Tue Jul 5 15:51:55 2005

John,
There has been some email traffic in the last few days to a week - quite
a bit really, only a small part about MSU. The main part has been one of
your House subcommittees wanting Mike Mann and others and IPCC
to respond on how they produced their reconstructions and how IPCC
produced their report.
In case you want to look at this see later in the email !

Also this load of rubbish !

This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached

article. What an idiot.

**********

The SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WOULD COME DOWN ON ME IN NO
UNCERTAIN TERMS IF I SAID THE WORLD HAD COOLED FROM 1998.

OK IT HAS BUT IT IS ONLY 7 YEARS OF DATA AND IT ISN'T STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

**********

The Australian also alerted me to this blogging ! I think this is the term ! Luckily I don't live in Australia."

“Team YOU'RE D.E.N.I.E.D.”

Since: Oct 09

Lakeside, AZ

#8 Nov 25, 2009
You can download your VERY OWN Climate observations by the world's climate scientists below:

http://www.filedropper.com/foi2009

It'll decompress to 158 mb of easy to read REVELATIONS on JUST how

"certain" they REALLY are of themselves BwaH Hah hah !!

“Team YOU'RE D.E.N.I.E.D.”

Since: Oct 09

Lakeside, AZ

#9 Nov 25, 2009
You'll recieve instructions on the SCIENTIFIC METHOD of Climatology/BoreHole looking, called

"I CAN JUST MAKE IT UP! So I DID :-)"

Quote:

" This is pretty obviously the same station (well OK.. apart from the duff early period, but I've
got used to that now). But look at the longitude! That's probably 20km! LUckily I selected
'Update wins' and so the metadata aren't compared. This is still going to take ages, because although
I can match WMO codes (or should be able to), I must check that the data correlate adequately - and
for all these stations there will be questions. I don't think it would be a good idea to take the
usual approach of coding to avoid the situation, because (a) it will be non-trivial to code for, and
(b) not all of the situations are the same. But I am beginning to wish I could just blindly merge
based on WMO code..

the trouble is that then I'm continuing the approach that created these broken databases. Look at this one:
...
Here, the expected 1990-2003 period is MISSING - so the correlations aren't so hot! Yet
the WMO codes and station names /locations are identical (or close).

**********

What the hell is supposed to happen here?

Oh yeah - there is no 'supposed',

I can make it up.

So I have :-)

**********

If an update station matches a 'master' station by WMO code, but the data is unpalatably
inconsistent, the operator is given three choices:

<BEGIN QUOTE>
You have failed a match despite the WMO codes matching.
This must be resolved!! Please choose one:

1. Match them after all.
2. Leave the existing station alone, and discard the update.
3. Give existing station a false code, and make the update the new WMO station.

Enter 1,2 or 3:
<END QUOTE>

You can't imagine what this has cost me - to actually allow the operator to
assign false WMO codes!!

But what else is there in such situations?

Especially when dealing with a 'Master' database of dubious provenance

(which, er, they all are and always will be). "

__________

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#10 Nov 25, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
John Holdren has suggested many reasonable policies that are accepted within the academic community as rational conclusions and responses to AGW and over population. Only the right wing nuts and AGW deniers oppose them.
Wake up people!
AGW is the most serious threat to live on earth and some measures which may seem unappealing to some small measure of the population, when viewed through the eye of science are both necessary and unavoidable.
Yes, forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and a world wide governing body to enforce the new polices might seem draconian and be unpopular at first but are the right thing to do so that we can save mankind from the full impact of AGW.
Unpopular? I'd say so. I do hope you are just trolling. If not they really need to take the computer out of you rubber room.

Kook
belinda mac

Fort Myers, FL

#11 Nov 25, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
Is there no level that the GOP and AGW deniers will stoop too?
To go along with this tread(which would be a total waste of tax payer money), Now they are attacking Science Czar John Holdren!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
This is just another racist attack on Obama in an attempt to harm his administration and Climate goals.
John Holdren has suggested many reasonable policies that are accepted within the academic community as rational conclusions and responses to AGW and over population. Only the right wing nuts and AGW deniers oppose them.
Wake up people!
AGW is the most serious threat to live on earth and some measures which may seem unappealing to some small measure of the population, when viewed through the eye of science are both necessary and unavoidable.
Yes, forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and a world wide governing body to enforce the new polices might seem draconian and be unpopular at first but are the right thing to do so that we can save mankind from the full impact of AGW.
We must act now!
In Copenhagen…the future of the planet depends on it...and like Obama said: We must make the tough decisions, we must not be afraid to make the unpopular choices.
Do you even know what you typed?
"Yes, forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and a world wide governing body to enforce the new polices might seem draconian and be unpopular at first but are the right thing to do so that we can save mankind from the full impact of AGW."

Forced abortions? If that had been done before, you wouldn't be here.
Mass Sterilizations? You wouldn't be here.
World wide governing body? Isn't that against being our own sovereign country?

Do you want to be told what to eat & when to eat it from somebody in say, England, Germany, Japan, etc??

Do you want to be told when it is ok for you to wipe your butt by other people?
Michael Hazzard

Tucson, AZ

#12 Nov 25, 2009
The GOP will melt like the wicked witch in the "Wizzard of Oz"...

Since: Aug 08

Granite Falls, WA

#13 Nov 25, 2009
Brian_G wrote:
Let's get to the bottom of this hoax.
Yes, let's get to the bottom of brian_g's 4 alleged threats, alleged stalking & intimidations.

Since: Aug 08

Granite Falls, WA

#14 Nov 25, 2009
Bob Burns wrote:
Wonder when the story will break on the MSM? And how they'll spin it?
Wonder how long bob burns' rape, torture, & death alleged threats against my wife & me will be ignored by denier brian_g's 'ganghood'? How will they spin it?
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#16 Nov 25, 2009
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, let's get to the bottom of brian_g's 4 alleged threats, alleged stalking & intimidations.
Don't forget mine!

“It's about the American People”

Since: Jun 07

Flushing, NY

#17 Nov 25, 2009
US GOP congressmen already called for investigation of the effort of the liberal communist regime of Obama to suck trillions of dollars in cap and trade tax that he plan to transfer to his interest groups and union hordes all over the world.
The secret Africa Muslim communist dictator Barack Obama is determined to push the 'global warming' taxes on the American people although he knows that it is concocted liberal communistic hoax.
The liberal communist and secret Muslim Obama vowed to destroy the American capitalistic economy and drive US corporations and small businesses to bankruptcy by deceitful 'cap and trade' taxes and destroying America infrastructure with the global warming hoax.
The biggest liar in US history Obama is using the fraudulent and lying liberal media of George Soros led by the New York, Times NBC, ABC and CBS is hiding the new facts that were discovered about global warming hoax.
Nevertheless, Obama is planning to force American people to cut emissions by 17% by 1020 by hefty cap and trade taxes based on the biggest ‘scientific lie’ in world’s history regardless of the resistance of most of the American people and without the approval of us congress that resist the destruction of America. Will the American people allow the liar communist dictator and secret Muslim Obama free hand to destroy America or will they ever wake up and stop the Obama’s madness?
The global warming hoax is the largest Ponzi scheme in world’s history that used fake scientific theory to steal money from the American people and re-distribute the money to the Islamic poor countries of the world and other poor countries.
The conspiracy against America was concocted by the anarchist billionaire George Soros who financed professors in famous Universities and paid them for lying to the world for the one goal of destroying the American capitalistic economy and drive America to bankruptcy.
US GOP congressmen already called for investigation of the effort of the liberal communist regime of Obama to suck trillions of dollars in cap and trade tax that he plan to transfer to his interest groups and union hordes all over the world.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#18 Nov 25, 2009
I've looked at many of the emails and I think these were leaked, not hacked. The leaker is a hero, a whistleblower willing to put his or her job at risk, to share evidence of scientific fraud. The leaker has the courage to face academic disgrace, willing to violate the law to serve the goal of truth, integrity to the principle of freely sharing data, faithful to the purpose of science. I am thankful that people like this exist.

If we don't investigate this fraud, every scientist will be guilty of negligence and an accessory to the hoax.

Since: Aug 08

Granite Falls, WA

#19 Nov 26, 2009
Brian_G wrote:
If we don't investigate this fraud, every scientist will be guilty of negligence and an accessory to the hoax.
The high schooler lowers the kaboom on the Phd. community! brian_g, with his academic credentials, expansive knowledge of science & the court system (remember when he was 1 million times off the right answer & all he had to do was quote the answer that was given him) has them shaking .......

“Team YOU'RE D.E.N.I.E.D.”

Since: Oct 09

Lakeside, AZ

#20 Nov 26, 2009
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
The high schooler lowers the kaboom on the Phd. community! brian_g, with his academic credentials, expansive knowledge of science & the court system (remember when he was 1 million times off the right answer & all he had to do was quote the answer that was given him) has them shaking .......
This is almost day 8, maggot. We're just now KICKING IN with the FIRST ROUND of LAWSUITS!

EMAIL #1120593115:

"From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: John Christy <john.christy@nsstc.uah.edu >
Subject: This and that
Date: Tue Jul 5 15:51:55 2005

John,
There has been some email traffic in the last few days to a week - quite
a bit really, only a small part about MSU. The main part has been one of
your House subcommittees wanting Mike Mann and others and IPCC
to respond on how they produced their reconstructions and how IPCC
produced their report.
In case you want to look at this see later in the email !

Also this load of rubbish !

This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached

article. What an idiot.

**********

The SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WOULD COME DOWN ON ME IN NO
UNCERTAIN TERMS IF I SAID THE WORLD HAD COOLED FROM 1998.

OK IT HAS BUT IT IS ONLY 7 YEARS OF DATA AND IT ISN'T STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

**********

The Australian also alerted me to this blogging ! I think this is the term ! Luckily I don't live in Australia."

Since: Aug 08

Granite Falls, WA

#21 Nov 26, 2009
I Am DigitaP wrote:
We're just now KICKING IN with the FIRST ROUND of LAWSUITS!"
Remember one lawsuit for the rape, torture & death alleged threats by bob burns against my wife & me.....& one lawsuit against you for supporting, aiding & abetting the alleged criminal, bob burns.
==========
bob burns' HELLGATE..........
bob burns' quote from hard copy.
First post:
You are one despicable piece of shit. I hope you & your lawyer get gunned down. I'll do it myself if I get a chance.
==========
Second post:
I'm coming after your 'wife' too. I'll rape and torture 'her' in front of you. Same with your lawyer. What I do with you will be right out of a Saw movie. I'll film it & put it on the 'net'.

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