Filipinos changing isle politics' equ...

Filipinos changing isle politics' equation

There are 147 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 21, 2008, titled Filipinos changing isle politics' equation. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

"Ang hindi marunong lumingon sa nakaraan, ay hindi makakarating sa patutunguhan." YESTERDAY Part 1 - Young voters flex political muscle Observers say such interest has surged in Hawaii in recent years.

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Good for them

Honolulu, HI

#1 Jul 21, 2008
Filipinos are a strongly religious people by and large and mainly Catholic at that.

The choice of conscious as between McCain and BO may come right down to their respective stances on whether BO favors abortion and what some argue is the taking of innocent life, versus McCain's consistently conservative position on the matter to preserve innocent lives that would be destoryed by abortion.

Obama is for abortion.

McCain is against abortion.

In the voting booth, the Filipinos may think back to their up-bringing and the sacrifices made by their ancestors before them and the struggles it took to get here and their faith in their God and religion that helped them through the tough times.

My hunch is that a lot of these citizens will honor their parents and religious upbringing and cast their vote for McCain.
Tama Samoa

Honolulu, HI

#2 Jul 21, 2008
Vote out Hanabusa and other old time philippino poiliticians and bring in young new ones.
Pineapple

Davenport, FL

#4 Jul 21, 2008
If the young ones would take initiative in learning from the old ones than that would be fine, but the young ones today can't stay off the drugs and gang mobs and the ones coming in from the PI or Samoa or anywhere needs to be educated to live in Hawaii and the USA. All the family needs to be educated before they can do anything! We're proud of not only the filipinos, but all races that supports our tradition in Hawaii and the US. We will unite and make it all right, as for me I was doing to be independant, but looks like I'm changing from Democrat to Republican!
Kimo

Santa Ana, CA

#6 Jul 21, 2008
Good for them wrote:
Filipinos are a strongly religious people by and large and mainly Catholic at that.
The choice of conscious as between McCain and BO may come right down to their respective stances on whether BO favors abortion and what some argue is the taking of innocent life, versus McCain's consistently conservative position on the matter to preserve innocent lives that would be destoryed by abortion.
Obama is for abortion.
McCain is against abortion.
In the voting booth, the Filipinos may think back to their up-bringing and the sacrifices made by their ancestors before them and the struggles it took to get here and their faith in their God and religion that helped them through the tough times.
My hunch is that a lot of these citizens will honor their parents and religious upbringing and cast their vote for McCain.
Sad, but true. There's no logic to voting for someone on a single issue like abortion.
The Catholic religion is not flexible to change with the times, like letting Catholic priest marry instead of molesting little boys, practicing contraception in the midst of overpopulation ( 92 million Filipinos worldwide)and food shortages. I know of single Filipino girls with multiple children with multiple fathers with no regard of feeding and educating them . Religion and parents have got to bare some responsiblity to this situation. The world and all of its dynamics are changing and we've got to change with it or we'll be saying *What Happened?"
Von

Aiea, HI

#7 Jul 21, 2008
"Ang hindi marunong lumingon sa nakaraan, ay hindi makakarating sa patutunguhan."

Please Speak english or even Hawaiian, but I think the Hawaiians will have hard time with this one?

How can I vote if I can't read Ang hindi marunong lumingon sa nakaraan, ay hindi makakarating sa patutunguhan?
WhatsGoingOn

Honolulu, HI

#8 Jul 21, 2008
Just as long as we don't vote Ron Menor back, after his lying tirade when he was caught driving drunk.

Ron Menor is a very bad example of Philipino integrity. Voting him back in will show disrespect for Island and Philipino honor.
Jack

San Diego, CA

#9 Jul 21, 2008
Von wrote:
"Ang hindi marunong lumingon sa nakaraan, ay hindi makakarating sa patutunguhan."
Please Speak english or even Hawaiian, but I think the Hawaiians will have hard time with this one?
How can I vote if I can't read Ang hindi marunong lumingon sa nakaraan, ay hindi makakarating sa patutunguhan?
Yo Dude,

all you need to do is step back and read the main topic story.. keep cool.
Salamat

Walnut Creek, CA

#10 Jul 21, 2008
Kimo wrote:
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Sad, but true. There's no logic to voting for someone on a single issue like abortion.
At least abortion is an issue.

Much better than voting solely by race like the Japanese have done for 60 years. Pure racism if you ask me.

Abortion is an issue. Race should not be.
Disgusted

Hilo, HI

#11 Jul 21, 2008
Hmmmmmm! I thought this was Hawaii, which is part of the United States. I thought we vote for whoever we think will be best for Hawaii and the country. I never subscribed to voting along ethnic lines and still resent it. I will vote against anyone who courts the racial votes and hope there are enough of you who will join me.
Von

Aiea, HI

#12 Jul 21, 2008
Jack wrote:
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Yo Dude,
all you need to do is step back and read the main topic story.. keep cool.
Oh!
Hanaboy

Anchorage, AK

#13 Jul 21, 2008
Yeah, That's just what Hawaii needs, more third world leadership.
Salamat

Walnut Creek, CA

#14 Jul 21, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
Hmmmmmm! I thought this was Hawaii, which is part of the United States. I thought we vote for whoever we think will be best for Hawaii and the country. I never subscribed to voting along ethnic lines and still resent it. I will vote against anyone who courts the racial votes and hope there are enough of you who will join me.
Where have you been for 60 years Disgusted. Have you looked out the window in Kaneohe? Hawaii has been an racial voting town for 50 years with the Japanese leading that parade.

I gotta say Filipinos love to support Filipinos but they aren't a blind racist voting bloc like the Japanese.

Filipinos and Haoles are going to be the next groups to decide major elections in Hawaii. Why? Because they can and do change their minds. They are the swing voters.

Japanese as a group will continue to vote Japanese or not vote at all and will slowly whither away politically speaking.
go figure

Waipahu, HI

#15 Jul 21, 2008
dem or rep if you support govt and and the overbearing "my turn mentality" you are only the problem and not part of any solution,

finding pride in that is the problem facing younger people in all voting blocs.

get off the taxpayers payroll where the only lifetime aspiration is to retire or be part of the judiciary . this is hawaii's contribution to local history...

sometimes you shouldn't look back
Localguy

Honolulu, HI

#18 Jul 21, 2008
Salamat wrote:
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Where have you been for 60 years Disgusted. Have you looked out the window in Kaneohe? Hawaii has been an racial voting town for 50 years with the Japanese leading that parade.
I gotta say Filipinos love to support Filipinos but they aren't a blind racist voting bloc like the Japanese.
Filipinos and Haoles are going to be the next groups to decide major elections in Hawaii. Why? Because they can and do change their minds. They are the swing voters.
Japanese as a group will continue to vote Japanese or not vote at all and will slowly whither away politically speaking.
I see by your address that you are in California and obviously not in tune with what's happening in Hawaii. For years now, the Japanese American vote is not so much ethnic-oriented as it is Democratic-oriented. There is a difference. Instead of simple-minded opinions, tinged with racist attitudes about Japanese Americans, you should read more. One suggestion: Tom Coffman's books on Hawaii's political history.
Prop 13

Walnut Creek, CA

#19 Jul 21, 2008
Localguy wrote:
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I see by your address that you are in California and obviously not in tune with what's happening in Hawaii.
I know planny about Hawaii's politics.

Lets have a conversation.

Hawaii's statehood history is defined by ethnic/racist voting blocs and the Japanese had the best block of um all.

Do you disagree?

Since: Nov 07

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#20 Jul 21, 2008
Pineapple wrote:
as for me I was doing to be independant, but looks like I'm changing from Democrat to Republican!
Good for you, "Pineapple". Just be sure to be on the lookout, however, for the RINO's (Republican In Name Only, Lingle-Aiona) and the Neo-conservatives (The Bush-Cheney circus). All one has to do is look back at all the things they've done, it mirrors what the Democrats had done to us in the 20th century.

Since: Nov 07

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#21 Jul 21, 2008
Kimo wrote:
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Sad, but true. There's no logic to voting for someone on a single issue like abortion. The Catholic religion is not flexible to change with the times, like letting Catholic priest marry instead of molesting little boys, practicing contraception in the midst of overpopulation ( 92 million Filipinos worldwide)and food shortages. I know of single Filipino girls with multiple children with multiple fathers with no regard of feeding and educating them . Religion and parents have got to bare some responsiblity to this situation. The world and all of its dynamics are changing and we've got to change with it or we'll be saying *What Happened?"
As a Catholic, I have to agree with you on one point, "Kimo".

I do agree with you that priests should be allowed to marry (and have children) if they so wish it.

But to say it's the church's fault or that they should bare responsibility for overpopulation is something I have to disagree with. It should be the sole responsibility of the parents to teach their children about sex and what the results will be if one gets pregnant while not ready for the responsibilities of raising a child.

In this day and age, with the various methods of protection, there's no excuse today for anyone to have an abortion which, simply, is just another form of murder.

Since: Nov 07

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#23 Jul 21, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
Hmmmmmm! I thought this was Hawaii, which is part of the United States. I thought we vote for whoever we think will be best for Hawaii and the country. I never subscribed to voting along ethnic lines and still resent it. I will vote against anyone who courts the racial votes and hope there are enough of you who will join me.
Hawai'i should be the one place, not just in the United States of America, but in the world, where race is not an issue.

I've been voting since I was 18 years old and not once had I considered voting for someone because of his/her ethnicity.

It all has to do with the issues, who will best represent the citizenry and make Hawai'i and our Nation, a better place, with Liberty intact.

Since: Nov 07

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#24 Jul 21, 2008
Salamat wrote:
<quoted text>Where have you been for 60 years Disgusted. Have you looked out the window in Kaneohe? Hawaii has been an racial voting town for 50 years with the Japanese leading that parade.
Not exactly true, "Salamat". I'm from Kane'ohe and we did vote for Bob Hogue to be our state Senator. When he ran against Mazie Hirono for U.S. House of Representatives, hazy Mazie didn't win because she has Japanese-ethnicity, she won because Mr. Hogue supported President Bush, in regards to Iraq. Many Republican, around the Nation, in state and federal elections, lost because people were protesting our being in Iraq on false pretenses.

But since, in the last two years, the Democrats have shown their true colors and have proven, once again, that they're all talk and no walk, the Republicans just might make some gains this year.

"Race" had nothing to do with it.
LawMan

Honolulu, HI

#26 Jul 21, 2008
Joey Manahan, one of the youngest and freshest Filipino candidates from two years ago, now a legislator, inspired all these new up and coming candidates. His successful campaign against the son of a 20-year incumbent known for his filipino-style politics, sent a very good message to the Filipino Community. Work hard and be proud of your heritage.

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