Hagel takes charge as defense secretary after bitter Senate fight over his nomination

There are 18 comments on the Feb 27, 2013, The Washington Post story titled Hagel takes charge as defense secretary after bitter Senate fight over his nomination. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

In this Jan. 31, 2013, file photo, Secretary of Defense nominee Chuck Hagel testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee during his confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington.

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“Liberals are Ruining America”

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#41 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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So I take it you're a pacifist opposed to war and are blaming Dems for "starting" wars all of which you opposed.
Well and good, but WWII? Seriously? We should've let the Nazis win, and Japan bomb us?
Wow..
Typical lib. Don't try to read into what someone is saying. Was a nuclear response the best answer? Really? The civilians did not attack us. The imperial military did. We nuked the civilians in retaliation.

But atop all that, my point is don't get too caught up blaming republicans for every fuc k ing wrong in America, because there is lots to spread equally among all political parties.. And it seems the more liberal an administration, the more dramatic and extreme the policy.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#42 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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So I take it you're a pacifist opposed to war and are blaming Dems for "starting" wars all of which you opposed.
Well and good, but WWII? Seriously? We should've let the Nazis win, and Japan bomb us?
Wow..
What democrat caused an embargo of steel and oil on Japan due to their invasion of China? What country had interests in China?

Germany declared war on us.

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#43 Mar 1, 2013
Big Bone Boy wrote:
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Typical lib. Don't try to read into what someone is saying. Was a nuclear response the best answer? Really? The civilians did not attack us. The imperial military did. We nuked the civilians in retaliation.
But atop all that, my point is don't get too caught up blaming republicans for every fuc k ing wrong in America, because there is lots to spread equally among all political parties.. And it seems the more liberal an administration, the more dramatic and extreme the policy.
I don't blame the GOPee for every wrong, but if you're not oppsoed to all those wars, why are you blaming the Dems?

We had to fight WWII...had to fight in Korea (U.S. troops attacked). We fought with a coalition of countries against Saddam's conquest of Kuwait...oh, wait, you didn't mention that. Not a "Democrat" war.

Hypocritical idiot.

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#44 Mar 1, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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What democrat caused an embargo of steel and oil on Japan due to their invasion of China? What country had interests in China?
Germany declared war on us.
Germany declared war on us after we declared war on its fellow Axis power, Japan. WHICH ATTACKED US.

Dumbass.

Since: Jan 11

Mount Holly, NJ

#45 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Germany declared war on us after we declared war on its fellow Axis power, Japan. WHICH ATTACKED US.
Dumbass.
Ducked the question. Who placed an embargo of steel and oil on Japan for invading China. What country had interests in China, shyt for brains?

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#46 Mar 1, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Ducked the question. Who placed an embargo of steel and oil on Japan for invading China. What country had interests in China, shyt for brains?
Are you suggesting that the U.S. CAUSED WWII? Because I'm calling you an anti-American liar and traitor if you are.

Do you not understand what Pearl Harbor was? Do you believe it was a justifiable response to U.S. embargoes related to Japan's invasion of China? What kind of f---ing traitor ARE you?

Jesus Christ, you're taking a dump on the graves of EVERY AMERICAN WHO DIED IN WWII. Was Tokyo Rose your mom?
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#47 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Are you suggesting that the U.S. CAUSED WWII? Because I'm calling you an anti-American liar and traitor if you are.
Do you not understand what Pearl Harbor was? Do you believe it was a justifiable response to U.S. embargoes related to Japan's invasion of China? What kind of f---ing traitor ARE you?
Jesus Christ, you're taking a dump on the graves of EVERY AMERICAN WHO DIED IN WWII. Was Tokyo Rose your mom?
Was Pearl Harbor justified? No. There were other ways of handling the embargo. Japan chose not to so paid a price for their decision. So, how was the invasion of China any of our business?

My father fought in WWII as a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne. I'm not dumping on any graves. I completely respect the men and women who ultimately fought in the war.

I fought in a combat arm in Vietnam, but question the cause of it. Does that make me a traitor? Oh! That was another democrat war.

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#48 Mar 1, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Was Pearl Harbor justified? No. There were other ways of handling the embargo. Japan chose not to so paid a price for their decision. So, how was the invasion of China any of our business?
My father fought in WWII as a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne. I'm not dumping on any graves. I completely respect the men and women who ultimately fought in the war.
I fought in a combat arm in Vietnam, but question the cause of it. Does that make me a traitor? Oh! That was another democrat war.
The embargo had to do with cruel, militaristic, and colonialist Japanese behavior in Chian and Asia, genius. As even you seem to be able to DIMLY grasp, you don't deal with an embargo by launching a massive sneak attack.

You "respect those who fought" but blame Democrats for "starting" the war. Unbelievable. You literally believe that even our wars were somehow "partisan." What a disgrace to this country you are.

A traitor for fighting in Vietnam? No, but wasn't it stupid to fight a pointless, unnecessary war for Democrats? Or were you just too dumb or cowardly to get out of it?:)

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#49 Mar 1, 2013
Dumbass partisanship when it comes to wars offends me. America hasn't always started wars, are Democratic Presidents to blame for fighting wars someone ELSE started? Is Lincoln responsible for "starting" a "Republican" Civil War because the South hated himi and attacked Sumter just as soon as Abe was sworn in??

This kind of idiotic finger-pointing is meaningless. America unfortunately loves wars, has fought far, FAR too many, and ALL of our politicians since James Polk (at least) are responsible for this nonsense. As are the Americans who elected them and put up with the dumbass wars they started.

You can't demand a huge military, American dominance, military responses to "provocations" real or imagined, and simultaneously blame one party or the other for the resulting wars. That's not just hypocritical, it's STUPID.

FWIW

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#50 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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I don't blame the GOPee for every wrong, but if you're not oppsoed to all those wars, why are you blaming the Dems?
We had to fight WWII...had to fight in Korea (U.S. troops attacked). We fought with a coalition of countries against Saddam's conquest of Kuwait...oh, wait, you didn't mention that. Not a "Democrat" war.
Hypocritical idiot.
Your question in sentence one is odd at best. I oppose war in general but understand you have to fight evil. It's the policy of liberals to "blame" republicans when they do exactly what demoncraps,aka libs, do. Under clinton and other libs, the nations security posture was lax. No where under conservative policy is this true. We anticipate and fund and train for the inevitable.

Sure, it can happen to anyone, but why so much during the reign of libs?

Had to fight? Maybe. Fight smart and decisively with intent and conviction to win is not what happened under the libs! I have a family member on the Arizona, my dad shot was in Korea. So stop your holier than thou tirade and understand the anti Americans are libs with no morale character, and inept leadership philosophy that to date has gotten Americans and allies killed!.

A main problem with male liberals is you lost your ability to be masculine in an effort to appease liberal women. That's how faggotry, prolific drug use, anti religion, and pussyism started in this country. And that made way for pieces of sh its like obama, clintons, reid, pelosi, etc!

You act as if you're smart. You're not even close to smart.

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#51 Mar 1, 2013
Big Bone Boy wrote:
Your question in sentence one is odd at best. I oppose war in general but understand you have to fight evil. It's the policy of liberals to "blame" republicans when they do exactly what demoncraps,aka libs, do. Under clinton and other libs, the nations security posture was lax. No where under conservative policy is this true. We anticipate and fund and train for the inevitable.
Sure, it can happen to anyone, but why so much during the reign of libs?

>>I understand you have to fight wars too, which I thought I made plain. What I don't understand are Repubs who support wars and the military, love to wave their little flags, but blame all the wars on Dems. That seriously doesn't strike you as hypocritical?
The tired old charge that Dems are "lax on security" is too silly to even bother with. In fact we ought to cut back on "Defense" about 80%, and could do so and still have perfectly capable "security" for this nation. Repubs love to waste money on "defense," though, and wouldn't accept it.

>>"Demoncraps" is beneath stupid, but illustrative of your childishness.

Had to fight? Maybe. Fight smart and decisively with intent and conviction to win is not what happened under the libs! I have a family member on the Arizona, my dad shot was in Korea. So stop your holier than thou tirade and understand the anti Americans are libs with no morale character, and inept leadership philosophy that to date has gotten Americans and allies killed!.

>>Insane gibberish, are you seriously saying we failed to fight WWII properly because of "libs?" LOL...you are completely nuts.

A main problem with male liberals is you lost your ability to be masculine in an effort to appease liberal women. That's how faggotry, prolific drug use, anti religion, and pussyism started in this country. And that made way for pieces of sh its like obama, clintons, reid, pelosi, etc!

>>Your partisan nutjobbery is spinning out of control....clearly no American, you just want to launch screeching tirades against anyone whom you dislike, typically of a GOPee bigot. I think that "pussyism" (whatever the hell that is!) is the lowest and yet silliest point you've reached to date.

You act as if you're smart. You're not even close to smart.

>>I'm no genius, but ten times as smart and a HUNDRED times as honest as you. Now go away and get bent, would you? Thanks!:)

“Liberals are Ruining America”

Since: May 11

District of Columbia

#52 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Your question in sentence one is odd at best. I oppose war in general but understand you have to fight evil. It's the policy of liberals to "blame" republicans when they do exactly what demoncraps,aka libs, do. Under clinton and other libs, the nations security posture was lax. No where under conservative policy is this true. We anticipate and fund and train for the inevitable.
Sure, it can happen to anyone, but why so much during the reign of libs?
>>I understand you have to fight wars too, which I thought I made plain. What I don't understand are Repubs who support wars and the military, love to wave their little flags, but blame all the wars on Dems. That seriously doesn't strike you as hypocritical?
The tired old charge that Dems are "lax on security" is too silly to even bother with. In fact we ought to cut back on "Defense" about 80%, and could do so and still have perfectly capable "security" for this nation. Repubs love to waste money on "defense," though, and wouldn't accept it.
>>"Demoncraps" is beneath stupid, but illustrative of your childishness.
Had to fight? Maybe. Fight smart and decisively with intent and conviction to win is not what happened under the libs! I have a family member on the Arizona, my dad shot was in Korea. So stop your holier than thou tirade and understand the anti Americans are libs with no morale character, and inept leadership philosophy that to date has gotten Americans and allies killed!.
>>Insane gibberish, are you seriously saying we failed to fight WWII properly because of "libs?" LOL...you are completely nuts.
A main problem with male liberals is you lost your ability to be masculine in an effort to appease liberal women. That's how faggotry, prolific drug use, anti religion, and pussyism started in this country. And that made way for pieces of sh its like obama, clintons, reid, pelosi, etc!
>>Your partisan nutjobbery is spinning out of control....clearly no American, you just want to launch screeching tirades against anyone whom you dislike, typically of a GOPee bigot. I think that "pussyism" (whatever the hell that is!) is the lowest and yet silliest point you've reached to date.
You act as if you're smart. You're not even close to smart.
>>I'm no genius, but ten times as smart and a HUNDRED times as honest as you. Now go away and get bent, would you? Thanks!:)
Again, another typical and expected lib response: "go away and get bent. Can't debate so quitting is your best response. Typical dumbass liberal!
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#53 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The embargo had to do with cruel, militaristic, and colonialist Japanese behavior in Chian and Asia, genius. As even you seem to be able to DIMLY grasp, you don't deal with an embargo by launching a massive sneak attack.
You "respect those who fought" but blame Democrats for "starting" the war. Unbelievable. You literally believe that even our wars were somehow "partisan." What a disgrace to this country you are.
A traitor for fighting in Vietnam? No, but wasn't it stupid to fight a pointless, unnecessary war for Democrats? Or were you just too dumb or cowardly to get out of it?:)
Oh, now it's a disgrace? Wasn't it you who blamed just republicans for all of our nation's ills? Who is partisan? Who drinks the Kool-Aid?

Japanese colonist behavior? What colonies were there before? Hong Kong, Shanghai. Now, again, who had big money interests in China?

Too cowardly to get out of it, huh. Think about that one for a while. I wasn't there for democrats, for sure. But, then again, I don't blame everything on republicans as you have, although they share some of it. I believe that was the initial point.

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#54 Mar 1, 2013
Big Bone Boy wrote:
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Again, another typical and expected lib response: "go away and get bent. Can't debate so quitting is your best response. Typical dumbass liberal!
LOL! Your dishonesty is amusing, if typical. I utterly refute your post point-by-point, and you seize on a bit of mockery contained in the VERY LAST SENTENCE to try to evade and wriggle away from your defeat!

Great stuff. Do you write for Karl Rove? You should, he'd LOVE you.:)

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#55 Mar 1, 2013
Teaman wrote:
Oh, now it's a disgrace? Wasn't it you who blamed just republicans for all of our nation's ills? Who is partisan? Who drinks the Kool-Aid?

>>You're drinking something if you think I "blamed the Republicans for all of our nation's ills," liar. Can you even TELL the truth?

Japanese colonist behavior? What colonies were there before? Hong Kong, Shanghai. Now, again, who had big money interests in China?

>>Huh? WTF ar eyou talking about? The Japanese invaded Manchuria and tried to colonize it, are you this ignorant of history? Read up on the rape of Nanking, if you get past reading about Dick and Jane someday.

Too cowardly to get out of it, huh. Think about that one for a while. I wasn't there for democrats, for sure. But, then again, I don't blame everything on republicans as you have, although they share some of it. I believe that was the initial point.

>>Again the same lame lie...'you blame everything on Republicans.' Wrong again, li'l boy. Get back to me when you grow up and achieve the ability to debate.

“Liberals are Ruining America”

Since: May 11

District of Columbia

#56 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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LOL! Your dishonesty is amusing, if typical. I utterly refute your post point-by-point, and you seize on a bit of mockery contained in the VERY LAST SENTENCE to try to evade and wriggle away from your defeat!
Great stuff. Do you write for Karl Rove? You should, he'd LOVE you.:)
Your childish comments do not equate to refutation. You've proven nothing except you have an odd opinion and prefer to make up facts.

I suspect you, like most libs, can't wrap your head around reality and so, make up an alternative one where the big bad wolf (republicans) are all the worlds problems.

I suppose you blame republicans for the housing market crash? Even though it was Dodd/Frank who wrote the rules, even though Bush et al submitted 124 change proposals to prevent exactly that.

I suppose you blame Bush for 911? Even though clinton and staff assured the newly elected president and staff there were no credible immediate threats.

You are simply hopeless! You need to be in the line for sterilization at your public clinic.
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#57 Mar 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, now it's a disgrace? Wasn't it you who blamed just republicans for all of our nation's ills? Who is partisan? Who drinks the Kool-Aid?
>>You're drinking something if you think I "blamed the Republicans for all of our nation's ills," liar. Can you even TELL the truth?
Japanese colonist behavior? What colonies were there before? Hong Kong, Shanghai. Now, again, who had big money interests in China?
>>Huh? WTF ar eyou talking about? The Japanese invaded Manchuria and tried to colonize it, are you this ignorant of history? Read up on the rape of Nanking, if you get past reading about Dick and Jane someday.
Too cowardly to get out of it, huh. Think about that one for a while. I wasn't there for democrats, for sure. But, then again, I don't blame everything on republicans as you have, although they share some of it. I believe that was the initial point.
>>Again the same lame lie...'you blame everything on Republicans.' Wrong again, li'l boy. Get back to me when you grow up and achieve the ability to debate.
Huh! They moved Nanking to Manchuria? Isn't it somewhere near Shanghai? Manchuria was used as an invasion of China staging point. Hong Kong fell a couple of weeks after the Pearl Harbor attack.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#58 Mar 2, 2013
Were they the same Polls that had Romney ahead as was being reported on Fux Snooze?

ROFLMAO....... that is a bizarre tale. Another stolen election... ROFLMAO, after Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004, that's the last excuse anyone supporting the GOP should claim..... Stolen Elections... ROFLMAO than the gang that couldn't shoot straight tried to Steal the 2012 Presidential Elections..... ROFLMAO
Don Joe wrote:
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Hagel also owned ES&S and got his buddies to install his ballot counting machines across Nebraska. The polls had him down about 60 percentage points going into the election for senator, yet his own machines reported he won with a margin of more than 60%. Statistically impossible. He clearly stole the election. This allowed him to branch out and illegally install tons of other whacked out sicko republicans, and we all see the resultant damage done to our nation.
I suspect since he controls who wins a great many elections, the power has gone to his head and he doesn't always bow to the republican directives. That doesn't make him a decent person, one that could be trusted controlling the world's mightiest military.

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