US declines to try half Native crimes [1:05 p.m.]

Full story: Farmington Daily Times

There was swelling on the little girl's skull and hemorrhages around her brain. There was a tear between her right ear and scalp.
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Jonny

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May 31, 2011
 
Oh Man! This is so wrong! Poor little girl. I hope there is some justice somewhre in the future of these fxxked xp people!

I am crying...
Shocker

Albuquerque, NM

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May 31, 2011
 
How disgusting. Like the Navajo Nation cares about the people to begin with in order to make it a priority anywhere else or to anyone else for that matter. I have a friend who was raped by three men on the reservation. The Navajo Police closed her case the very same day and told her "it is like looking for a needle in a hay stack or a fart in the wind. Good luck to you." Until the Navajo Nation step up and start giving a rats end about each other and hold people accountable for what they do and not do, nothing will ever change. Ever.
tsktsktsk

Fruitland, NM

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May 31, 2011
 
death to the parents of this innocent girl.. but If it was a Rez crime don't count on the daily times to give you the facts...
tsktsktsk

Fruitland, NM

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May 31, 2011
 

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Shocker wrote:
How disgusting. Like the Navajo Nation cares about the people to begin with in order to make it a priority anywhere else or to anyone else for that matter. I have a friend who was raped by three men on the reservation. The Navajo Police closed her case the very same day and told her "it is like looking for a needle in a hay stack or a fart in the wind. Good luck to you." Until the Navajo Nation step up and start giving a rats end about each other and hold people accountable for what they do and not do, nothing will ever change. Ever.
okay,complaining about it won't change nothing either...

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Jun 1, 2011
 
Every native "nation" wants sovereignty. Part of the responsibility of "sovereignty" is to have a police force that can handle the crimes committed.

Federal authorities come in and they are looked upon as meddlers from the outside world. No one talks to them. People obstruct their investigations. There's no co-operation.

This is a problem than should be handled itself by any nation that proclaims to want "sovereignty". If they are incapable of doing so, then they either have to live with the responsibility of doing nothing about crime, or simply accept the fact that they are not prepared to take care of the situation and let the county, or the Feds, run the whole show.
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Farmington, NM

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Jun 1, 2011
 

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Failed system, doomed culture. If a culture cannot even dispense justice they cannot survive. End of story.
Shorty Nez

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Jun 1, 2011
 

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The "system" has been imposed from outside the reservation. Only an act of US Congress can change the laws that has created the "failed system". There is no logic to equate this failed system to a "doomed" culture.

Only an act of US Congress can change these laws. One, only the federal government can investigate major crimes on Indian reservations, local LE cannot. Two, only federal government can impose penalties, local authorities cannot. Three, when and if federal authorities come onto the reservation, they treat local LE with contempt, ignoring local customs and habits that are critically needed to gather evidence, solve crimes, and imprison criminals. Four, major crimes on reservations is just, simply not sexy enough for US DOJ attorneys to pursue. They'd much rather be battling the big city organized crime and white collar crimes (ie Madoff, etc). This is their ticket to big money.

Finally, keep in mind the Navajo Nation (as are most other native nations) is barely one generation old. It is still in the process of growing. To compare it with the US Government (400 yrs+) is not fair.
whammer jammer

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Jun 1, 2011
 
Shorty Nez wrote:
The "system" has been imposed from outside the reservation. Only an act of US Congress can change the laws that has created the "failed system". There is no logic to equate this failed system to a "doomed" culture.
Only an act of US Congress can change these laws. One, only the federal government can investigate major crimes on Indian reservations, local LE cannot. Two, only federal government can impose penalties, local authorities cannot. Three, when and if federal authorities come onto the reservation, they treat local LE with contempt, ignoring local customs and habits that are critically needed to gather evidence, solve crimes, and imprison criminals. Four, major crimes on reservations is just, simply not sexy enough for US DOJ attorneys to pursue. They'd much rather be battling the big city organized crime and white collar crimes (ie Madoff, etc). This is their ticket to big money.
Finally, keep in mind the Navajo Nation (as are most other native nations) is barely one generation old. It is still in the process of growing. To compare it with the US Government (400 yrs+) is not fair.
Dear ostrich...the Navajo Nation has 'BIA cross-commissioned' officers who are trained to bring these cases to Federal courts. If, Ms. Martin were using her education to it's potential...she'd be changing the Navajo Nation law in accordance with the violent crimes that are committed in her backyard instead of trying to lay blame on the federal government. Train the Nation's officers to appropriately work crime scenes...thousands of dollars are spent in just such a scenerio....CHANGE Nation law...make these violent criminals pay for their offenses...one year maximum???? What other country/nation in the WORLD allows such a travesty of justice to occur? One year for pre-meditated MURDER???? Only on the Navajo Nation...
ON THE RESERVATION what you remain to uphold is your own government....your people are committing violent crimes to what justice? NONE!
On another note...Ms. Martin is the driving force in keeping 'Federal Officers' from arresting these same offenders while on the rez or in NN custody. Extradition within the confines of these United States of America???? She needs to bone up on the Federal law. Talking outta both sides of your mouth Ms. Martin, won't get anything done. If and only when, you make these injustices a priority within the confines of the NN...yesterday....will any progress come from that store bought education you flaunt...do something that will make 'REAL' changes in your homeland...quit asking for more from the Federal Government without knowing exactly what it is you want.....
Beans and Franks

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Jun 2, 2011
 
Shorty Nez wrote:
The "system" has been imposed from outside the reservation. Only an act of US Congress can change the laws that has created the "failed system". There is no logic to equate this failed system to a "doomed" culture.
Only an act of US Congress can change these laws. One, only the federal government can investigate major crimes on Indian reservations, local LE cannot. Two, only federal government can impose penalties, local authorities cannot. Three, when and if federal authorities come onto the reservation, they treat local LE with contempt, ignoring local customs and habits that are critically needed to gather evidence, solve crimes, and imprison criminals. Four, major crimes on reservations is just, simply not sexy enough for US DOJ attorneys to pursue. They'd much rather be battling the big city organized crime and white collar crimes (ie Madoff, etc). This is their ticket to big money.
Finally, keep in mind the Navajo Nation (as are most other native nations) is barely one generation old. It is still in the process of growing. To compare it with the US Government (400 yrs+) is not fair.
So...to summarize: The NN is a collection of victims that cannot be held accountable for their own actions. This proud nation is "sovereign", until it's not. This "sovereign" nation will play passive-aggressive games with the federal govt., providing no assistance with federal investigations. And then this "sovereign" nation will request endless handouts from the federal government, losing these funds in banana republic style corruption, and playing the race card to get more. Does that about sum up the situation?
Shorty Nez

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Jun 2, 2011
 
Beans and Franks wrote:
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So...to summarize: The NN is a collection of victims that cannot be held accountable for their own actions. This proud nation is "sovereign", until it's not. This "sovereign" nation will play passive-aggressive games with the federal govt., providing no assistance with federal investigations. And then this "sovereign" nation will request endless handouts from the federal government, losing these funds in banana republic style corruption, and playing the race card to get more. Does that about sum up the situation?
Anyone hurt or killed at the hands of someone committing a major crime is a "victim", yes, including Navajos. On the reservation, the mechanism to hold that person "accountable", ie, prosecuted, is reserved by the federal government only. Local authorities cannot prosecute persons committing major crimes on the reservation. They can arrest and detain but if the federal government chooses to decline prosecution as was in this case, there is no choice but to release the perpetrator.

You like most people mis-interpret the meaning of "sovereignty" in this context. In the context of the treaties signed between the federal govt and the Navajo, it is used mainly to document the exemption of the Navajos (on their land) from state jurisidiction, not from federal jurisdiction. And like most entities under the jurisdiction of the federal government, the navajo nation does receive financial and other forms of federal assistance.

Corruption or "white collar crime" is relatively new on the reservation. Sadly, it is part of our assimilation of non-Navajo society. The NN DOJ has only recently established an investigative unit to investigate these types of crimes. But again, they are hamstrung by their inability to prosecute those crimes involving federal assets. Like major crimes, these white collar criminals are released if the federal gvt declines to prosecute them.

Shorty Nez

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Jun 2, 2011
 
whammer jammer wrote:
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Dear ostrich...the Navajo Nation has 'BIA cross-commissioned' officers who are trained to bring these cases to Federal courts..
And if the United States Department of Justice declines to prosecute? Answer: The perpetrator walks. Just like anywhere else in the country.
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Jun 2, 2011
 
Shorty Nez wrote:
The "system" has been imposed from outside the reservation. Only an act of US Congress can change the laws that has created the "failed system". There is no logic to equate this failed system to a "doomed" culture.
The system has failed, regardless of who instigated it. It's a real world example of the devastating effects of the US imposing it's will on others, and using socialism as the hammer. If people want a real-life lesson in the end result of empire building combined with socialism they need look no further than the Navajo Nation. Total train wreck, and yes, much of it is our fault. Multilpy what the reservation has become by a factor of a thousand or a million and you'll have some idea of what's in store for us in places like the Mideast, where we're doing the same damn thing.
Ich tu dir weh

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Jun 2, 2011
 
Law 6! Justice can be dictated!

Since: Aug 11

Chandler, AZ

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#14
Aug 30, 2011
 
The criminal offense is the police department, fire each and everyone!
They are committing a crime by doing nothing!!!
God forbid the police, the government, the U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR BLOWING UP THE TWIN TOWERS AND PAT TILLMAN, GOOD OLE BOY PRESIDENT BUSH, just wanting power, control and miss leading every AMERICAN IN HIS LIES...
LOOK AT THE MESS HE PUT OUR COUNTRY IN!
HIS WAY OF.POPULATION CONTROL!!!!!!!!
AND THAT DAMM ALCOHOLIC NEW HIS TIME WAS ENDING IN HIS SHIT HOUSE!

TIME
Jaimie

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Aug 31, 2011
 
Shorty Nez wrote:
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And if the United States Department of Justice declines to prosecute? Answer: The perpetrator walks. Just like anywhere else in the country.
They brainwashed themselves to NAtive roots and customs, that IS them in the past they are walking it again.

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