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Supporters Says Keystone Bill Short of 60 Votes

There are 25 comments on the ABC News story from May 1, 2014, titled Supporters Says Keystone Bill Short of 60 Votes. In it, ABC News reports that:

Senate supporters of the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline conceded Thursday they lack the 60 votes necessary to pass legislation authorizing immediate construction of the project, but said they remain hopeful of prevailing.

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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#1 May 1, 2014
As long a Warren Buffet owns railroads, we will ship oil by rail. No matter how dangerous or what cities the trains run through. It makes perfect progressive sense.
Van

Dallas, TX

#2 May 1, 2014
People would positively sh!t if they knew how many pipelines are already in place across the country.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#3 May 1, 2014
And yet another jobs bill killed by the Democrats in the Senate.
It's time for a change to get America working again.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 May 2, 2014
A few temporary jobs are not worth the risk to the environment.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 May 2, 2014
Van wrote:
People would positively sh!t if they knew how many pipelines are already in place across the country.
Those of us who care about the environment do know, and the spills like the one in Yellowstone River keep making the news. Our goal is to prevent any MORE from being built.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 May 2, 2014
RustyS wrote:
As long a Warren Buffet owns railroads, we will ship oil by rail. No matter how dangerous or what cities the trains run through. It makes perfect progressive sense.
Why should city people- those who use the MOST oil & gas- be immune from the joys of an oil spill?

Personally I think they should build an oil refinery in EVERY major city in the RICHEST neighborhoods so they'll have easy access to all the gas they use every day.

Ditto for coal fired electric plants.

I'm sure you wouldn't mind living next door to either one...
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#7 May 2, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Why should city people- those who use the MOST oil & gas- be immune from the joys of an oil spill?
Personally I think they should build an oil refinery in EVERY major city in the RICHEST neighborhoods so they'll have easy access to all the gas they use every day.
Ditto for coal fired electric plants.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind living next door to either one...
You don't get off topix much, do you?

Which is a safer way to transport crude? This?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/30/us-...

Or pipelines?
Cat74

Bolingbrook, IL

#8 May 2, 2014
There are studies that indicate no risk to the environment, Democrats just want everyone on the dole, so they won't provide any project that creates jobs. Put the vote off until January 21, 2015 when the new Senate is seated, and ignore the Democrats.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 May 2, 2014
Far Away wrote:
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You don't get off topix much, do you?
Which is a safer way to transport crude? This?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/30/us-...
Or pipelines?
Yep, we need one of those every day in every major city in the US. Maybe THEN people will realize how hazardous oil is REGARDLESS of the method of transportation.

Spill baby spill...

Burn baby burn...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#10 May 2, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
There are studies that indicate no risk to the environment, Democrats just want everyone on the dole, so they won't provide any project that creates jobs. Put the vote off until January 21, 2015 when the new Senate is seated, and ignore the Democrats.
Even IF the GOPasaurs take the Senate in Nov, they won't have enough votes to overcome a Dem filibuster.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#11 May 3, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Even IF the GOPasaurs take the Senate in Nov, they won't have enough votes to overcome a Dem filibuster.
Don't forget, Harry Reid changed the Senate rules so a simple majority vote can determine many actions of the Senate. Not to worry though, I'm sure the Republicans will follow the new rules Reid set when take control of the Senate.
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#12 May 3, 2014
Republicans need 6 seats to take back the Senate. There are 11 Democrat seats that could change to Republican in November. The Keystone project has 56 votes, so when there is a 6 seat pick up they will have more then enough to vote to build the pipeline. Unions are going to back candidates that back the pipeline for the jobs. Our experiment in fantasyland is nearly over.
Delbert

Virginia Beach, VA

#13 May 3, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Why should city people- those who use the MOST oil & gas- be immune from the joys of an oil spill?
Personally I think they should build an oil refinery in EVERY major city in the RICHEST neighborhoods so they'll have easy access to all the gas they use every day.
Ditto for coal fired electric plants.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind living next door to either one...
On the East Coast oil refineries & electric plants do lay in the middle of those cities and shipping terminals
Delbert

Virginia Beach, VA

#14 May 3, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Republicans need 6 seats to take back the Senate. There are 11 Democrat seats that could change to Republican in November. The Keystone project has 56 votes, so when there is a 6 seat pick up they will have more then enough to vote to build the pipeline. Unions are going to back candidates that back the pipeline for the jobs. Our experiment in fantasyland is nearly over.
Sure, the union in supporting 4000 non union temporary jobs will switch to backing Republicans who decimated unions the last 35 years.

It's safe to assume that bridge Republicans need for union support has been burnt.
Delbert

Virginia Beach, VA

#15 May 3, 2014
RustyS wrote:
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Don't forget, Harry Reid changed the Senate rules so a simple majority vote can determine many actions of the Senate. Not to worry though, I'm sure the Republicans will follow the new rules Reid set when take control of the Senate.
That nuclear option in the Senate only applies to confirmations votes on nominees other than cabinet nominations.
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#16 May 3, 2014
In the last 3 elections Union members split with the Democrats 60% to 40%. Some people have that damn work ethic, and consider part time work better then no work at all. If they can make the work last for a few months the economy will pick up. We need a robust economy like President Reagan worked toward in the 80s. Of course there are also those who won't work no matter what you do.
Delbert

Virginia Beach, VA

#17 May 3, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
In the last 3 elections Union members split with the Democrats 60% to 40%. Some people have that damn work ethic, and consider part time work better then no work at all. If they can make the work last for a few months the economy will pick up. We need a robust economy like President Reagan worked toward in the 80s. Of course there are also those who won't work no matter what you do.
Of course you can validate that 60%, 40% union vote split with a link, right? I can't remember a local organizing to support any Republican candidate any place in America over the last 25 years.
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#18 May 3, 2014
It works like this, you belong to a Union. The Union won't steer you to a job if you are Republican so you pretend you are a Democrat. Inside that voting booth the Union can't see who you vote for, so you vote your principles. The trades Unions in Chicago were shocked to see not all their members voted Democrat, and all they could do is ask the members not to do that again. It was so funny. Almost everyone in my family either has retired from the military, or belongs to a Union. And none vote Democrat.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#19 May 3, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Republicans need 6 seats to take back the Senate. There are 11 Democrat seats that could change to Republican in November. The Keystone project has 56 votes, so when there is a 6 seat pick up they will have more then enough to vote to build the pipeline. Unions are going to back candidates that back the pipeline for the jobs. Our experiment in fantasyland is nearly over.
Actually all of the seats the GOPasaurs may take are from Dems who ALREADY support the pipeline, so the vote total would likely stay the same. Not enough to overcome a filibuster and certainly not enough to override an Obama veto.

As long as there's a Dem in the White House, this pipeline won't be built.
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#20 May 3, 2014
I bet there will be more new Senators then you know about. There are already several Democrats that are supporting the pipeline, and anyone who wants to create jobs for our Americans will be re elected.

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