$1 billion jobs bill for veterans bog...

$1 billion jobs bill for veterans bogs down in Senate

There are 20 comments on the Winston-Salem Journal story from Sep 20, 2012, titled $1 billion jobs bill for veterans bogs down in Senate. In it, Winston-Salem Journal reports that:

Senate Republicans blocked legislation Wednesday that would have established a $1 billion jobs program putting veterans back to work tending to the country's federal lands and bolstering local police and fire departments.

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“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#1 Sep 20, 2012
meanwhile, harry reid has YET to come up with a budget, AND has personally blocked over 30 housepassed jobs bills...

hmmm, where are THOSE stories?

fcking lamestream media!

Since: Sep 08

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#2 Sep 20, 2012
This is just not another jobs training program, as
described by Senator Coburn. This is a jobs
'doing' program. This job is being performed
by people right now. Why not veterans? They
need very little training for this, since most of the training took place in the field. Is it
possible that this is another political thing?
Of course not. Just another day at the orifice.

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#3 Sep 20, 2012
carey529 wrote:
meanwhile, harry reid has YET to come up with a budget, AND has personally blocked over 30 housepassed jobs bills...
hmmm, where are THOSE stories?
fcking lamestream media!
How true, and let's not do a tit for tat where our veterans
are concerned.

Since: May 11

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#4 Sep 20, 2012
There ya go...Republicans don't WANT people to go back to work. They WANT to keep you unemployed. They want to KEEP the economy down. They will vote down EVERYTHING good for the people unless THEY (Republicans) get what THEY want.

Since: May 11

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#5 Sep 20, 2012
carey529 wrote:
meanwhile, harry reid has YET to come up with a budget, AND has personally blocked over 30 housepassed jobs bills...
hmmm, where are THOSE stories?
fcking lamestream media!
Most of those jobs bills came with stipulations (like an oil pipeline) that would do nothing for the American people. Do you think that pipeline would make gasoline any cheaper? Hardly.

Why can't Republicans do something just for the people once in a while that doesn't have big business stamped all over it?

“"I'm A Great American!"”

Since: Sep 08

Obama Nation! USA! USA!

#6 Sep 20, 2012
It's a shame Republicans are all talk about supporting the troops, but when it comes to a simple jobs bill for veterans, they'd hold the bill hostage for their political hissy fit...

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#7 Sep 20, 2012
interesting that our president comes out with this idea and getting tough with chinese right before the election. would these have been good ideas when the dems held majority in DC?

Since: Sep 08

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#9 Sep 20, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of those jobs bills came with stipulations (like an oil pipeline) that would do nothing for the American people. Do you think that pipeline would make gasoline any cheaper? Hardly.
Why can't Republicans do something just for the people once in a while that doesn't have big business stamped all over it?
Such items as oil pipelines might do wonders for the American people, like supplying us with energy and helping to end our dependence on foreign oil or being held hostage by certain oil producing countries that
threaten to close their oil pipeline, which would eventually
'trickle' down to guess who?

“Here we go!”

Since: Feb 07

Tampa, FL

#10 Sep 20, 2012
<----Veteran

It's obvious that none of you have read the bill. Fully 1/3 of it has to do with taxes, levies and passport regulation. Perhaps if it had been a stand alone bill... but I digress.

As stated in the article there are fully funded SIX jobs training programs available through the VA and other agencies... that aren't able to be quantified by any measure- so let's just throw more money that we don't have into a seventh. How much sense does that make.

The bill itself mainly deals with first responders- fire fighters, law enforcement positions. You have to be certified to do these jobs. There is nothing stopping the healthy Veteran from obtaining this training through one of the existing programs in order to get these jobs on a local, State or Federal level.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#11 Sep 20, 2012
bobob wrote:
This is just not another jobs training program, as
described by Senator Coburn. This is a jobs
'doing' program. This job is being performed
by people right now. Why not veterans? They
need very little training for this, since most of the training took place in the field. Is it
possible that this is another political thing?
Of course not. Just another day at the orifice.
Another Trillion to the debt?
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#12 Sep 20, 2012
PooPoo Platter wrote:
It's a shame Republicans are all talk about supporting the troops, but when it comes to a simple jobs bill for veterans, they'd hold the bill hostage for their political hissy fit...
Simple? More debt, and duplication, and obummer agenda items in the small print. Not so simple, Simpleton

Since: May 11

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#13 Sep 21, 2012
bobob wrote:
<quoted text>
Such items as oil pipelines might do wonders for the American people, like supplying us with energy and helping to end our dependence on foreign oil or being held hostage by certain oil producing countries that
threaten to close their oil pipeline, which would eventually
'trickle' down to guess who?
Nice try, but no. See, oil companies aren't in the market to help America end our dependence on foreign oil. They're in the business to make money...lots and lots of money. ANY oil, no matter where it comes from, is not OUR oil. It could come from your backyard, but it is NOT American oil. Oil goes out on the open market to be sold to anyone willing to pay the price.

We aren't being held hostage by oil producing companies; we're being held hostage by oil PRODUCERS, period. Doesn't matter where the oil would come from, we would all still be at the mercy of the oil companies.

Since: May 11

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#14 Sep 21, 2012
Eron wrote:
<----Veteran
It's obvious that none of you have read the bill. Fully 1/3 of it has to do with taxes, levies and passport regulation. Perhaps if it had been a stand alone bill... but I digress.
As stated in the article there are fully funded SIX jobs training programs available through the VA and other agencies... that aren't able to be quantified by any measure- so let's just throw more money that we don't have into a seventh. How much sense does that make.
The bill itself mainly deals with first responders- fire fighters, law enforcement positions. You have to be certified to do these jobs. There is nothing stopping the healthy Veteran from obtaining this training through one of the existing programs in order to get these jobs on a local, State or Federal level.
So what is YOUR suggestion for creating jobs? Do you have any good ideas?

Since: May 11

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#15 Sep 21, 2012
PooPoo Platter wrote:
It's a shame Republicans are all talk about supporting the troops, but when it comes to a simple jobs bill for veterans, they'd hold the bill hostage for their political hissy fit...
They don't like people who work for a living. Look at how they've screwed over all the first responders from 911. Republicans have tried to block funds that would help these people with the health issues resulting from them working in the dust and debris.

Since: May 11

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#16 Sep 21, 2012
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>Another Trillion to the debt?
Just like the wars in the Middle East. Just like all the foreign aid we give away to other countries.

Since: Sep 08

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#17 Sep 21, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try, but no. See, oil companies aren't in the market to help America end our dependence on foreign oil. They're in the business to make money...lots and lots of money. ANY oil, no matter where it comes from, is not OUR oil. It could come from your backyard, but it is NOT American oil. Oil goes out on the open market to be sold to anyone willing to pay the price.
We aren't being held hostage by oil producing companies; we're being held hostage by oil PRODUCERS, period. Doesn't matter where the oil would come from, we would all still be at the mercy of the oil companies.
I said "oil producing countries," and not "oil producing companies." The threat is always that they could reduce oil shipments to the outside world, or decide to raise prices dramatically enough
to ruin our economy. And of course the oil companies are in business to make lots of money, and when business goes sour they lose lots of money. My view is that it is a good thing to make money. You know
what? I am going to try it in my next life. Peace.

Since: Sep 08

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#18 Sep 21, 2012
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>Another Trillion to the debt?
I agree, and I feel strongly about our obligation to those
who put their lives on the line for us, many of whom left jobs
or never had the opportunity to get a job before our wars claimed them, some for eternity. You are so right, though.
No doubt.

“Here we go!”

Since: Feb 07

Tampa, FL

#19 Sep 21, 2012
This bill was not a job creation bill- It was a job training bill. As I said, there are already six fully funded federal programs (plus numerous state programs). Why don't we see how the ones we're already paying for work, before we create another one just for the sake of spending a billion we don't have.

In regards to job creation, I wouldn't mind a government backed national infrastructure project. In my opinion, that's should be why I pay taxes. But our taxes can't go to something that ambitious as long as the government's main focus is on entitlements and not job creation. If they did a national infrastructure project they wouldn't need such an rovust entitlement program.
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
So what is YOUR suggestion for creating jobs? Do you have any good ideas?
Tony

Broken Arrow, OK

#20 Sep 21, 2012
Republican Party of Obstruction and No.
All this to make Obama a one term President. Republicans are disgusting crap.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#21 Sep 21, 2012
PooPoo Platter wrote:
It's a shame Republicans are all talk about supporting the troops, but when it comes to a simple jobs bill for veterans, they'd hold the bill hostage for their political hissy fit...
What would you expect from the Chicken Hawk Sunshine Patriots?

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