Senators agree on principles of immigration reform

There are 8 comments on the Jan 28, 2013, NBC 17 story titled Senators agree on principles of immigration reform. In it, NBC 17 reports that:

A bipartisan group of leading senators has reached agreement on the principles for a sweeping overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, including a path to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants already in this country.

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Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#43 Jan 29, 2013
doughty wrote:
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With all that being said, this is all happening bcoz of the stupid immigration laws that most of them dont make sence and thats why americans agree with reforming their bogus immigration system, I dont support crimes but I support immigrants who come here to try and live a normal life just like everyone else, if uve been watching news, obama said,
No one can b deported due to their illigal status unless tney hav a criminal background.so get that right.
This is not a law, the law says:

"In 1996, Congress inserted several interlocking provisions into the law that require deportation when Executive Branch officials become aware of illegal aliens.

Congress enacted these provisions explicitly to force the executive branch to place into removal proceedings virtually every illegal alien encountered by federal immigration agents. The exceptions allowed by the 1996 act are very narrow, to be applied only in extraordinary circumstances (such as aliens seeking political asylum)."

"Here’s the technical explanation:

* 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(a)(1) provides that “an alien present in the United States who has not been admitted ... shall be deemed for purposes of this chapter an applicant for admission.”

* This triggers 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(b)(2)(A), which mandates that if the immigration officer determines that the alien is unlawfully present, the alien must be placed in deportation proceedings:“In the case of an alien who is an applicant for admission, if the examining immigration officer determines that an alien seeking admission is not clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to be admitted, the alien shall be detained for a proceeding under section 1229a of this title.”

* The proceedings described in 8 U.S.C.§ 1229a are the deportation (or “removal”) proceedings of the US immigration courts.

Of course, the president long ago showed that he isn’t serious about enforcing our immigration laws. On taking office, he virtually ended work-site enforcement. That and other actions prompted ICE agents to take an unprecedented vote of “no confidence” in the Obama appointee running the agency. Then, in 2010 and 2011, Obama had his Justice Department sue states (like Arizona) that were trying to help the federal government enforce the law.

Now he’s taken it a step further, ordering ICE agents to violate the law."

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2012/0...

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#44 Jan 29, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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"More Asians illegally came here than Latino's"? No wonder 3rd world country are in the crapper with thinking like this by their governments.
62% of illegal aliens are from Mexico, 6% are from Canada and Europe. 24% more is from Latin America and the rest are from Asia and the rest of the world.
Where do you get the Asian number that beats Mexico's 62%?
As of last year, Asians did out pace Hispanics in sneaking in or over staying visas.

That said, Hispanics..... Mexicans, and those from Central and South America had already established such a large foothold that it will take a decade for the Asians to supplant them at current rates. However, if another amnesty is passed, the results will most certainly be the same as with previous amnesties and whites in America will be the new minority. If you want to see what the probably result of that might be, just look at every other country on the face of the planet that is governed by non-whites.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#45 Jan 29, 2013
doughty wrote:
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Behold ,coz if you watched obamas speech today , oh wait am forgetting u have no interest In what goes on in your own country and thats why u have little knowlege, n still reffering to immigrants as sub-humans, the bipartisan group have already decided they have to pass the comprehensive immigration bill by this summer , I bet in your head we are still going to b sub-humans even though we gonna have the same benefits.I think you need to reconsider you sources of information.


How old are you? and are you even from from country? You sure don't know how government works. The bipartisan group you are talking about is in the senate. You have not heard anything out of the house yet where the bill goes next and where it will die.

The Senate and House, every bill must pass in each before they become laws. If they don't, they die.

Here's some schoolhouse rock, "i'am just a bill", maybe you could learn something.



Read carefully:

"Once the bill has advanced through the house of origin,
it is sent to the second house, where the process
repeats.
The second chamber may fail to act on the bill, in which
case the bill “dies.“ If action is taken, the bill must pass
through First Reading, Committee, Second Reading and
Third Reading.
The bill can “die” at any step of the way, just as it can in
the house of origin.
At the same stages as in the house of origin, as long as
the bill is advancing, amendments may be proposed and
accepted."

http://www.in.gov/gov/files/BillintoLaw.pdf

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#46 Jan 30, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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As of last year, Asians did out pace Hispanics in sneaking in or over staying visas.
That said, Hispanics..... Mexicans, and those from Central and South America had already established such a large foothold that it will take a decade for the Asians to supplant them at current rates. However, if another amnesty is passed, the results will most certainly be the same as with previous amnesties and whites in America will be the new minority. If you want to see what the probably result of that might be, just look at every other country on the face of the planet that is governed by non-whites.
This is what is called misinformation. Illegal aliens from Mexico still outpace Asians coming here illegally, where the numbers of Asians out pace Mexicans is coming here legally.

"For the first time, the influx of Asians moving to the U.S. has surpassed that of Hispanics, reflecting a slowdown in illegal immigration while American employers increase their demand for high-skilled workers.

An expansive study by the Pew Research Center details what it describes as "the rise of Asian-Americans," a highly diverse and fast-growing group making up nearly 6 percent of the U.S. population. Mostly foreign-born and naturalized citizens, their numbers have been boosted by increases in visas granted to specialized workers and to wealthy investors as the U.S. economy becomes driven less by manufacturing and more by technology."

"About 430,000 Asians, or 36 percent of all new immigrants, arrived in the U.S. in 2010, according to the latest census data. That's compared with about 370,000, or 31 percent, who were Hispanic."

Hispanics still come in the country at 3X the rate of Illegal Asians.

"Illegal immigration: While immigrants from Asia often obtain visas and arrive legally, many also sneak across the U.S. border or become undocumented residents after overstaying their visas. Up to 15 percent of Asian immigrants in the U.S. are here illegally, compared with 45 percent of Hispanic immigrants."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/201206...
doughty

Pasadena, TX

#47 Jan 30, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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This is not hard to understand, the house is controlled by the republicans. The bill will die there no matter how much you believe the hype. This happens all the time. I don't know why the democrats want to draw attention to it when they know it's doomed.
Republicans may put in closing down the 14th amendment birthright citizenship among other things illegal alien supporters will never agree to.
What world do you live in, have u ever heard the word bipartisan, it means republicans and democracts working tgether side by side in a laymans language , the immigration reform bill they suggested the other day was agreed upon by a bipatisan group of senators, republicans have no choice but to help make this go through bcoz if they dont,they kno they have no latino votes come 2016,if republicans had a choice they would never perticipate in forming this bill at all, but they are doing it for political gain, which is fine by us immigrants,those are the people americans put in the office,
doughty

Pasadena, TX

#48 Jan 30, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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This is not a law, the law says:
"In 1996, Congress inserted several interlocking provisions into the law that require deportation when Executive Branch officials become aware of illegal aliens.
Congress enacted these provisions explicitly to force the executive branch to place into removal proceedings virtually every illegal alien encountered by federal immigration agents. The exceptions allowed by the 1996 act are very narrow, to be applied only in extraordinary circumstances (such as aliens seeking political asylum)."
"Here’s the technical explanation:
* 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(a)(1) provides that “an alien present in the United States who has not been admitted ... shall be deemed for purposes of this chapter an applicant for admission.”
* This triggers 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(b)(2)(A), which mandates that if the immigration officer determines that the alien is unlawfully present, the alien must be placed in deportation proceedings:“In the case of an alien who is an applicant for admission, if the examining immigration officer determines that an alien seeking admission is not clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to be admitted, the alien shall be detained for a proceeding under section 1229a of this title.”
* The proceedings described in 8 U.S.C.§ 1229a are the deportation (or “removal”) proceedings of the US immigration courts.
Of course, the president long ago showed that he isn’t serious about enforcing our immigration laws. On taking office, he virtually ended work-site enforcement. That and other actions prompted ICE agents to take an unprecedented vote of “no confidence” in the Obama appointee running the agency. Then, in 2010 and 2011, Obama had his Justice Department sue states (like Arizona) that were trying to help the federal government enforce the law.
Now he’s taken it a step further, ordering ICE agents to violate the law."
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2012/0...
Obama has used his executive power 23 times since he got into the office and this is one of them, not deporting young illigals due to their illigal statuses,and guess what , on his yesterdays speech, he expressed that if congress doesnt want to act quick and work on the immigration reform bill,he will present his own bill and "force"the congress to vote on it, that was a threat, he knows he isnt running for another term so he has nothing to lose,thats why he waited to do this on his second term.what a clever guy.

Since: Jan 13

Bloomfield, NJ

#49 Jan 31, 2013
There is a tendency for all the presidents to be more liberal in the second term but also this is an issue that's been dragging for too long and quite frankly they know how the law should sound like so why would you keep postpone it ?
Post Turtle

Mountain Home, AR

#50 Jan 31, 2013
It's only insecure little governments that have a lot of gun control because they are afraid of their own people. Is obama making America insecure?

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