Analysis: Fiscal battles could sideline U.S. immigration reform

Nov 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WTAX-AM Springfield

They hoped that Obama, bolstered by the 70 percent-plus support he received from Hispanic voters, might now feel ready to champion the cause he largely avoided during his first term.

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Yesterday, Members of the House Ways & Means Committee voted 22-12 to stop the IRS from giving refundable tax credits to illegal aliens.

FAIR thanks the following Ways and Means Committee Members who voted to
close the loophole:

Chairman David Camp (R-MI) Rep. Jim Gerlach (R-PA)
Rep. Wally Herger (R-CA) Rep. Tom Price (R-GA)
Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX) Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX) Rep. Adrian Smith (R-NE)
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) Rep. Aaron Schock (R-IL)
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-KS)
Rep. Pat Tiberi (R-OH) Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-MN)
Rep. Geoff Davis (R-KY) Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-TX)
Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA) Rep. Rick Berg (R-ND)
Rep. Charles Boustany (R-LA) Rep. Diane Black (R-TN)
Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY)

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******Members who voted against closing the loophole include:******

Rep. Ranking Member Sander Levin (D-MI) Rep. Mike Thompson,(D-CA)
Rep. Fortney Pete Stark,(D-CA) Rep. John B. Larson,(D-CT)
Rep. Jim McDermott,(D-WA) Rep. Ron Kind,(D-WI)
Rep. John Lewis,(D-GA) Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr.,(D-NJ)
Rep. Richard E. Neal,(D-MA) Rep. Shelley Berkley,(D-NV)
Rep. Lloyd Doggett,(D-TX) Rep. Joseph Crowley,(D-NY)

http://www.franklincountyvapatriots.com/2012/...

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I am sorry Dave but it seem like you are living in the past an Americans need to look into a future..
Open Letter to John Gibson,Sean Hannity Jorge Ramos, John Boehner,Luis V. Gutierrez,Lindsey Graham &
Susan Collins

11/9/2012

The gentleman & Lady I've listed above are advocating amnesty for the 12-20 million (wag) illegal aliens in our country . I strongly disagree with their position for the following reasons.

In 1986 President Reagan signed off on a bill granting amnesty to 1 1/2- 2 Million illegal aliens, today I wonder how many thousands more of their family members are here now because of the current Chain
Immigration policy in place?

In the past 26 years since President Reagan signed that bill, because of politicians from both parties like Congressman John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez ,Senator Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins who have none nothing to help control both of our borders, except to stick their finger in the dike to appease the voters at home and not offend special interest groups ,12-20 Million more illegal aliens (wag) have entered our country and now because the finger caper didn't work, their solution to the problem is amnesty.

The message that people like John Gibson, Sean Hannity , Jorge Ramos, John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez,Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins are sending to immigrants around the world is that if you can enter our country illegally without getting caught and hide out for another 26 years, then sooner or later another amnesty will be granted.

Case in point, a large number of American Hispanic voters including Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez & Jorge Ramos have again rally their support for amnesty, and are using their vote to blackmail the Democrats into granting it. My question is what are those Hispanic Americans basing their support on?

My answer is it's based on the fact that a large number of the illegal aliens are also Hispanics which would appear to make their support based on race.( Google some of Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez's & Jorge Ramos comments on the subject).

Now if I say I don't support amnesty because it's wrong then those same people yell I'm a "Racist".

We currently have no control of illegal immigration into our country, yet continue to allow in around 900,000 legal immigrations a year, and now John Gibson,Sean Hannity Jorge Ramos, John Boehner, Luis V. Gutierrez, Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins want to add 12-20 Million illegal aliens (wag) to our population (315 Million), which doesn't include the millions more of their family members that will come here legally under the chain migration policy...

My question to John Gibson, Sean Hannity, Jorge Ramos, John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez, Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins that support amnesty is how many more immigrants will our country hold, and how many more legal & illegal ones entering our country will make you happy?

Just because you can walk across our borders or swim / wade across a river doesn't give someone a place at the head of the line here. The line for those people starts inside the border of their own country.

To compound the problem, under the 14 Amendment we have around 300,00 new American Citizens a year who are born in our country to illegal Hispanic women, and yes John, Sean, Jorge, John B., Luis, Lindsey & Susan a lot of them walk or swim/ wade across our borders just to have those new American babies..

My closing comment is granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens is not fair to immigrants waiting in their own country to enter here the legal way and violating our immigration laws should not be rewarded with American Citizenship, it's worth more than that!

The inscription at the base of the Statute of Liberty concludes, "I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" It says nothing about welcoming people who bypass our entry doors by climbing walls, swimming rivers and sneaking under border fences.

Dave

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I think letting them live here legally would make them more likely to spend money here and pay taxes not only from what they consume.

We need to look at this subject more broadly than just unspecified fear or/and desire to punish them or "teach them a lesson". It is very unwise and mostly from our - fellow Americans interests
What do you tell the immigrants that are waiting in their own country to enter here the legal way??

And why would you even consider granting our American citizenship to people that break our immigration laws to get here?

I'm not sure about you, but I think our citizenship is worth more than that!

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No1 can be sure of anything in this world but making the come out of the shadows of society is the first step and the fact that someone is so desperate to feed his/her family that decide to leave homeland and often risk life to cross the border doesn't ncessarly mean that it is a bad person who is not worth to trust anymore becousue "has had no respect to or laws".

I wonder how many times we "bend" our respect for the law for example sitting beind the wheel after more than one glass of wine or cheating just a little" while "filling tax" every year...
Let's talk about "cheating":

Now do you really want to grant amnesty to people that not only break our immigrations laws to get here, but turn around and screw the American tax payers to the tune of $4.2 Billion a year?

And you want to grant American citizenship to people like that? lol

Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits

Friday, 23 Sep 2011 05:17 PM

By James Walsh

On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."

It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data. The Treasury report found that "One common type of fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement (Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."

Read more on Newsmax.com : Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits

As for coming out of the "Shadows"

"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this."

-- Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

Did or did not Senator (I can't swim") Kennedy lie?

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"The agreement we just reached is the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders, bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America"

May 17, 2007

Ted Kennedy -- Senator from Massachusetts
Member of the Democratic Party

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Makes sense wrote:
Screw the GOP. Last time this country was great Clinton was president.

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The last time any screwing was going on was when President Clinton was in the White House!! lol

Clinton vs Monica Lewinsky

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Clinton & The Blue Dress

The Stained Blue Dress

that Almost Lost a Presidency

THE STORY BEHIND THE DRESS

FBI: MEMO ON TAKING OF PRESIDENT'S BLOOD

FBI: RECEIPT OF DRESS AND BLOOD SAMPLE

FBI ANALYSIS OF SEMEN STAIN

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftri ...

Do all "DEMOCRATS" lie??

Clinton's Grand Jury Testimony

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Makes sense wrote:
Screw the GOP. Last time this country was great Clinton was president.

Let the taxes go back to what they were when Clinton was president.

The Bush tax cuts hurt our economy.

They failed, just like Bush did.

It's time to cut military spending and to use the savings to PAY for the useless wars.

The voters have spoken.
Its called Smoke & Mirrors!

How much surplus did the US have when Clinton left office?

Clinton ran deficits throught all 8 years of his term, and one can go to the US Treasury Department and looking through the history of the total outstanding debt through Clintons term.

Every year Clinton was in office, the total national debt continued to climb.

How Clinton managed to claim a surplus was that while the general operating budgets ran deficits but Clinton borrowed from numerous off budget funds to make the on budget fund a surplus.

the national debt did not go down one year during the Clinton
administration.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_surplus_di...

The Obama supporters have spoken. lol

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OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
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Obamacare was one big tax bill, plain and simple.
Wait a minute didn't B.O. say that there would be no tax increases on people making below $250,000?

And we all know B.O. wouldn't lie.

Obama 7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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He did plenty considering no support from the parliament. President alone has limited "lawmaking" power. It seem from the pools that Latino and Asian Americans think pretty much the same and they are closest to the subject.
Well, of course I and millions more knew he was pandering and lying to the dumb mexicans and they ate it up.
OH NO YOU Did not

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Cricket 23 wrote:
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Wait a minute didn't B.O. say that there would be no tax increases on people making below $250,000?
And we all know B.O. wouldn't lie.
Obama 7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Anybody that believe that Obama will not raise taxes is an Obamaton and yeah, Obama does lie, IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Obama's mic left on. "Americans are just stupid" .Says they should shut up a

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