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Minnesota Republicans Call Anti-Bullying Bill 'Fascism'

There are 198 comments on the EDGE story from Apr 9, 2014, titled Minnesota Republicans Call Anti-Bullying Bill 'Fascism'. In it, EDGE reports that:

A week after the Minnesota State Senate approved an anti-bullying bill, the House also approved it, but not before local Republicans spent hours decrying it as "fascism" that could expose students to "filthy, perverted information."

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“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

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#1 Apr 9, 2014
The new bill merely expanded on an existing bill. Now bullying has been clearly defined as behavior that causes physical harm or the fear of physical harm and "constitutes intentional infliction of emotional distress."

The new bill also requires school districts to track and investigate cases of bullying and to train teachers and administrators how to prevent it.

I'm not sure how the new bill could possibly be described as "Fascism", or how it could be construed to expose students to "filthy, perverted information." Instead, it appears to provide protection to all students in Minnesota schools, regardless of race, religious affiliation, gender, ability, sexual orientation, etc.

That's a good thing for everyone.

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#2 Apr 9, 2014
The most harmful "filthy, perverted information" students could be exposed to in Minnesota would come from the Bachmanns.
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#3 Apr 9, 2014
It seems these protesters have taken leave of their senses .. Predictable perhaps .. but damning nevertheless ..

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#4 Apr 9, 2014
david traversa wrote:
It seems these protesters have taken leave of their senses .. Predictable perhaps .. but damning nevertheless ..
Hey, David, did you watch any of that stuff I mentioned to you ?
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#5 Apr 9, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Hey, David, did you watch any of that stuff I mentioned to you ?
Yes, I did . My only complaint is Bill O'Reilly seems reluctant to let his guests finish a sentence without interruption ..

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#6 Apr 9, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I did . My only complaint is Bill O'Reilly seems reluctant to let his guests finish a sentence without interruption ..
Well, other than that, what did you think ?
Sir Andrew

Honolulu, HI

#7 Apr 9, 2014
David and Foxy: Aww, get a room already!

lol
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#8 Apr 9, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, other than that, what did you think ?
I didn't hear any homophobia from them, but then I don't watch Fox all the time (or any other news site). My husband says he hasn't heard any either and he does watch it regularly ..

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Apr 9, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't hear any homophobia from them, but then I don't watch Fox all the time (or any other news site). My husband says he hasn't heard any either and he does watch it regularly ..
Well, I've been watching FOX NEWS for well over 10 years, and I've never heard any homophobia ever on it either. So I don't now why some people say that, other than they just don't know what they're talking about.

And compared to CNN they are ALWAYS Fair. And Balanced.:)
Talibangelical Fatwa

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Apr 9, 2014
Wait a minute: Would this bill mean I could no longer make "jokes" about going antiquing with Marcus?

Because I would not like such a measure.
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#11 Apr 9, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I've been watching FOX NEWS for well over 10 years, and I've never heard any homophobia ever on it either. So I don't now why some people say that, other than they just don't know what they're talking about.
And compared to CNN they are ALWAYS Fair. And Balanced.:)
I've heard nasty comments about practically every news site and newscaster in both the Americas, so I'm not surprised .. Besides we can't expect everybody to like everything we say or do ; nor, to be fair, do we deserve it either .

Since: Jan 08

Orlando, FL

#12 Apr 9, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, I've been watching FOX NEWS for well over 10 years, and I've never heard any homophobia ever on it either. So I don't now why some people say that, other than they just don't know what they're talking about.
And compared to CNN they are ALWAYS Fair. And Balanced.:)
Ever watch Huckabe? He had a fit over the SCOTUS decision obliterating parts of doma.

And as for your comment about fox being fair and balanced: didn't I see your nose grow several feet?!

Fox is evil, period.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 Apr 10, 2014
Dubya wrote:
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Ever watch Huckabe? He had a fit over the SCOTUS decision obliterating parts of doma.
And as for your comment about fox being fair and balanced: didn't I see your nose grow several feet?!
Fox is evil, period.
Yes, I watch Huckabee and like him. I agree with him 98% of the time. On LGBT issues though, we are diametrically opposed. He's a Republican and I'm a Libertarian.

I have a great deal of trouble though telling all those blonde ladies apart on FOX.

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#14 Apr 10, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Yes, I watch Huckabee and like him. I agree with him 98% of the time. On LGBT issues though, we are diametrically opposed. He's a Republican and I'm a Libertarian.
I have a great deal of trouble though telling all those blonde ladies apart on FOX.
Their morning show is nothing but inane blather. If you think you are being informed by that, you are wholly mistaken. Hannity lies more than the boy who cried wolf.

There are a few bright spots, Shepard Smith comes to mind as one worth watching most of the time, and Bill O is always good for a laugh.

As to homophobia, they have been far more careful in recent years to remain silent on gay issues, but it is still there. If you haven't noticed, when there is positive news regarding gay rights, it gets no mention, or perhaps it gets a quick 60 seconds, whereas other networks cover the story in depth. When there has been negative news (none recently thankfully) they have led the news with it.

The homophobia is there as an act of omission to please their viewers who makeup the largest part of the minority who still view homosexuality as filthy. For proof, read the comments on their web site when they post a gay related story. They put R1 and David to shame.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Apr 10, 2014
Ron431 wrote:
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Their morning show is nothing but inane blather. If you think you are being informed by that, you are wholly mistaken. Hannity lies more than the boy who cried wolf.
There are a few bright spots, Shepard Smith comes to mind as one worth watching most of the time, and Bill O is always good for a laugh.
As to homophobia, they have been far more careful in recent years to remain silent on gay issues, but it is still there. If you haven't noticed, when there is positive news regarding gay rights, it gets no mention, or perhaps it gets a quick 60 seconds, whereas other networks cover the story in depth. When there has been negative news (none recently thankfully) they have led the news with it.
The homophobia is there as an act of omission to please their viewers who makeup the largest part of the minority who still view homosexuality as filthy. For proof, read the comments on their web site when they post a gay related story. They put R1 and David to shame.
I've not heard homophobia on FOX. In fact I have heard both Megyn Kelly and Bill O'Reilly say that support equal marriage rights for us.
INFIDEL

Socorro, NM

#17 Apr 10, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I've not heard homophobia on FOX. In fact I have heard both Megyn Kelly and Bill O'Reilly say that support equal marriage rights for us.
Obviously the fear about this bill is that it will be used to preach that homosexuality is wonderful, natural and to persecute homosexuals is wrong. The problem with this thinking (the fascism angle) is that it is not the job of government to brainwash people into thinking what they are told to think. Of course any civilized person would agree that homosexuals should not be persecuted. It's governments job to enforce the rule of law after all. The malevolent part of the measure (which may not even happen) is the indoctrination that homosexuality is wonderful and natural. That is a matter of personal belief. But failure to bow down to this "new religious belief" that homosexuality is great can lead to severe bullying itself. Many conservatives know all too well the lash back that comes from failing to kneel at the alter of gayness. Just look at this story. Those who voiced concern with the law are being targeted for retaliation for their fears. The gay rights movement has taken on the tactics of it's opponents and in so doing has lost the moral high ground.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#18 Apr 10, 2014
I would imagine that my only truly vicious attacks of "conservatives" and their ilk are in reaction to things like this.

Go look at the original article and the abortion comment: NAILS the issue. The conservatives want intrusion into private life when it suits them; they *claim* this is an intrusion -- not an outright lie so much as a fabrication from nothing -- so as to rile *their* supporters. It's so clear that they want to rile *THEIR* supporters.

This bill is to protect people, and just last night I heard some progressives saying "republicans are the scum of the earth." This is why. The *literal hatred* comes from this:

If you don't support this, you appear to *DESIRE* and *SUPPORT* bullying; the progressives were clever enough to make this bill about simply *setting up support systems* so that NOTHING specific can be attacked.

Yet the conservatives attack.

Doesn't look good for them. And everyone who attempts to pretend or claim it does is joining a horrid train wreck I am very thankful not to be a part of. Use your heads; stop being mindless, blathering dolts.

Find another method aside from attacking something *which was deliberately passed with zero specificity* in order to make you LOOK BAD if you attacked it. Are they that stupid? The democrats aren't, as anyone can see.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#19 Apr 10, 2014
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
The new bill merely expanded on an existing bill. Now bullying has been clearly defined as behavior that causes physical harm or the fear of physical harm and "constitutes intentional infliction of emotional distress."
The new bill also requires school districts to track and investigate cases of bullying and to train teachers and administrators how to prevent it.
I'm not sure how the new bill could possibly be described as "Fascism", or how it could be construed to expose students to "filthy, perverted information." Instead, it appears to provide protection to all students in Minnesota schools, regardless of race, religious affiliation, gender, ability, sexual orientation, etc.
That's a good thing for everyone.
That's so funny that in my response, I utterly forgot the "filthy, perverted" quote. It is the single most unimportant thing in this entire matter, and I forgot it the second I read it. It's nonsensical blather that is the equivalent of someone shouting that a bill to balance the budget might affect the orbit of Saturn or Neptune, in our solar system.

Too nonsensical even for me to have remembered for one second, hahahaha.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#20 Apr 10, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>I've heard nasty comments about practically every news site and newscaster in both the Americas, so I'm not surprised .. Besides we can't expect everybody to like everything we say or do ; nor, to be fair, do we deserve it either .
I read one or two responses from that "Foxy" person, above, for the first time in ... more than a year, I'd say, because he was conversing with YOU, whom I like.

I utterly forgot what I've noticed about him, and what I continue to notice; his behavior entrenches my belief every time to immovability.

Something happened in his past -- I don't know what -- and he developed a *specific and PERSONAL* hatred of Democrats. We can't know where it came from. I could write an essay with clues and details as to why I think this; then again, I could do that for just about anything.

The hatred -- and what seems a huge stubbornness -- guarantee that he will not budge before the hour of this death; in HIS mind, this is a point of pride: nothing more, nothing less.

The huge clue in one of his responses was describing himself as a "Libertarian" where gay rights are concerned, because he flatly and savagely refuses to describe himself as a "progressive" where gay rights are concerned -- which is exactly what he is.

Now, that last point is arguable; he could easily argue that I am incorrect, and he could present semi-convincing information to rebut me. It's simply my colossal hunch, based on what I have seen.

My opinions on these matters come from a stubborrness he could never *hope* to exceed; I could match him atom for atom forever and ever, and it is based in this point: If someone has an opinion which in particular regards the greater good, connected with any subject such as politics, I am insistent in my own mind that it has weight ONLY IF it is as objective as possible. I have a huge, unshakable belief that where Democrats are concerned, he is *literally VOID* of objectivity.

For the record, feel free to ignore this post and please don't feel obligated to respond; I don't want to put you in any position.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#21 Apr 10, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, I've been watching FOX NEWS for well over 10 years, and I've never heard any homophobia ever on it either. So I don't now why some people say that, other than they just don't know what they're talking about.
And compared to CNN they are ALWAYS Fair. And Balanced.:)
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