What the 2012 election taught us

What the 2012 election taught us

There are 10313 comments on the The Washington Post story from Nov 6, 2012, titled What the 2012 election taught us. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Washington Post.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#8582 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>When the reality that there's nothing left for you to steal in your own neighborhood is impossible to avoid, you you realize that you are incapable of doing anything for yourself. You'll have to steal what you need.

We know you'll be coming to see us. You know you'll be coming to see us.
See you then.
When?

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#8583 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>You forgot to put content into your post. All I see is the programmed party line mantra.
Here's the post again for your convenient reference when you discuss the content:

birth certificate: Nobody has seen it yet. The (first) pdf file put up on the White House internet site was the original pdg file the White House created with all the layers where they put the fraudulent information. They were so stupid, the put the file they created up instead of making a copy of the file, then scanning it, and putting up the scan of the copy, which would be like an authentic document.
If for no other reason, they should be thrown out of the White House for being that goddam stupid. But, that is consistent with the stupidity of writing programs to steal 100 percent of the vote, instead of a program to steal one in three or one in four votes.

Muslim ties: Tell us about the Wahabist terrorists from the Muslim Brotherhood routinely visiting the White House.

Terrorist friends: Tell us about Obama ordering all combat against the Taliban to cease and ordering US forces to retreat to the population centers in Afghanistan, then actually stating the Taliban will be part of the future government of Afghanistan, then giving the Taliban safe passage throughout Afghanistan.

You forgot to mention that I call Obama a Marxist communist, dupe.
BHO 44th president.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#8584 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>... oh, yeah.

Tell us where the money will come from to pay for Obama's government.

Got a problem with that, don't you? You clowns don't even have a plan.
Where did Dumbya'a money come from?

There ya go, sheep.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#8585 Feb 18, 2013
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
<quoted text>Do you ever get tired of repeating yourself? Damn dude give the Hitler comparison a rest already. It's worn out card and makes you look rather stupid.
Looking stupid is the cornerstone of his herd...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#8586 Feb 18, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Obama so loved the poor...
Calls to several Presidential libraries reveal that President Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. President since Herbert Hoover and possibly more than any other President in history.

Even President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was in office 12 years from 1933 to 1945, was on vacation less days than President Bush at 958 days. Calls to several Presidential Libraries reveal that no President can come close to Bush’s 1,020 days on vacation in an 8 year period. Even Lyndon Johnson, who spent 484 days at his ranch in Texas and at Camp David during his presidency, came in under Bush’s vacation time. Some claim the cost of Bush’s frequent trips to Crawford, Texas cost taxpayers upwards of $20 million, but the numbers are hard to confirm.

A recession started in 2001 as Bush took office after 22 million jobs were created during the Clinton Administration from 1993 to 2000. Bush began wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and presided over the loss of 4 million jobs. The debt when Bush left office was $10.6 trillion. In 2005, the Washington Post noted President Bush’s frequent vacations in a piece titled Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record as Bush took the longest single vacation — 5 weeks — of any President in 36 years.

President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.

Bush passed Reagan in total vacation days in 2005 with three and a half years left in his presidency. Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his 8 year presidency. Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days.

When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years. At 1,020 days, Bush was close to being on vacation more days than President John F. Kennedy’s total days in office (1,036). Representatives at the Nixon and Johnson Libraries indicate those two Presidents were on vacation less than 1,000 days during their terms.

President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. Of course, staff was around all three Presidents on vacations and all White House aides argue that the commander-in-chief is never “out of touch” with work.

Calls to the Eisenhower and Truman Libraries reveal that those Presidents were not on vacation for more than 1,020 days. Eisenhower was on vacation for 456 days during his 8 years in office. When asked on whether President Herbert Hoover’s vacation days could be over 500 for 4 years a historian at the Hoover Library said,“No chance. Everyone agrees he was a grinder — he was the kind of guy for whom a vacation was rare — his vacation days were less than 50.” Hoover was in office from 1929 to 1933. Frequently Hoover either drove himself on brief trips or was driven by a military attachment or took the train.

President Obama was on vacation for 26 days during his first year in office (2009). Ronald Reagan spent 42 days on vacation during his first year in office (1981). President George H.W. Bush was on vacation less than his son, 40 days, in 1989, his first year in office. President Obama was on vacation less in his first year in office than the previous three Republican Presidents.

No President since Reagan was on vacation less than Bill Clinton. Presidents Clinton and Carter vacationed the least of any of the last seven chief executives.

All Presidents point out that work is being done on vacation. FDR’s Presidential Library included the following note with their information on President Roosevelt’s vacations:“It should be noted that no sitting modern president, including President Roosevelt, can ever take “a vacation.”

“or Fox News”

Since: Jan 08

Vicksburg, MI

#8587 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
You forgot to put content into your post. All I see is the programmed party line mantra.
Here's the post again for your convenient reference when you discuss the content:
birth certificate: Nobody has seen it yet. The (first) pdf file put up on the White House internet site was the original pdg file the White House created with all the layers where they put the fraudulent information. They were so stupid, the put the file they created up instead of making a copy of the file, then scanning it, and putting up the scan of the copy, which would be like an authentic document.
If for no other reason, they should be thrown out of the White House for being that goddam stupid. But, that is consistent with the stupidity of writing programs to steal 100 percent of the vote, instead of a program to steal one in three or one in four votes.
Muslim ties: Tell us about the Wahabist terrorists from the Muslim Brotherhood routinely visiting the White House.
Terrorist friends: Tell us about Obama ordering all combat against the Taliban to cease and ordering US forces to retreat to the population centers in Afghanistan, then actually stating the Taliban will be part of the future government of Afghanistan, then giving the Taliban safe passage throughout Afghanistan.
You forgot to mention that I call Obama a Marxist communist, dupe.
OHHHHHHH you're a birther nut job. You could have saved us all a lot of trouble by stating this at the beginning. This explains all I need to know about how your mind 'works'.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#8588 Feb 18, 2013
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you ever get tired of repeating yourself? Damn dude give the Hitler comparison a rest already. It's worn out card and makes you look rather stupid.
It's a valid comparison. Here it is again:

Hitler:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Sought revenge for a lost war

Democrats:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Seek revenge for losing the Cold War

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#8589 Feb 18, 2013
Black Rhino wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did Dumbya'a money come from?
There ya go, sheep.
Civics 101 (refresher course for those who never paid attention in high school)

Congress controlls all spending, revenue and borrowing.
Obviously, you were taught that the United States is a dictatorship. Those who taught you that lied to you. For a complete description of the government of the United States, read the goddam Constitution. And, send a message to Obama that it would help if he had ever read the Constitution at least once in his life.

In case you live in a cave, Obama has been president for 4 years. In that 4 years the debt has nearly doubled. In fact, the debt did double:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/

Tell us what happened to the debt and deficit since the Democrats took control of all the purse strings of government in January, 2007.

Did you say the Democrats doubled the debt?
Did you say the Democrats increased the deficit A THOUSAND GODDAM PERCENT?

Now, to answer the question, you have to identify a real source of money.

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
Shakalaka

Morrow, GA

#8590 Feb 18, 2013
jackson wrote:
<quoted text>
I refuse to let you call me a racist. I'll wager the list of my friends is more diverse and inclusive than yours. People like you discount the right's disagreements with our president and claim it's due to racism. It is his plan for our country that we dislike. But you have no credible retort for our logic, so you resort to name calling and call us racists. Lame.
I appreciate hearing different viewpoints, but not when they're laced with racist accusations.
I am posting my opinions and beliefs -- and it is the truth as I see it. You disagree, fine, I have no problem with that.
But do not call me a racist, I find it offensive and disrespectful.
Since you don't seem to be able to post your views without racist accusations, I'll ignore you from now on, as I encourage others to do as well. You can have the last word -- it matters not to me. I'll not read it.
roflmao ... you so sensitive girl! Most racist are. Wonder why that is? YOU ARE A RACIST! And you don't have the power to "encourage" anyone, if you did, you'd have been using it a long time ago. Might even have a cape with a big "E" on it!

LOL

“or Fox News”

Since: Jan 08

Vicksburg, MI

#8591 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a valid comparison. Here it is again:
Hitler:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Sought revenge for a lost war
Democrats:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Seek revenge for losing the Cold War
Ahh yes when you run out of talking points revert to the Hitler comparison.

“or Fox News”

Since: Jan 08

Vicksburg, MI

#8592 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Civics 101 (refresher course for those who never paid attention in high school)
Congress controlls all spending, revenue and borrowing.
Obviously, you were taught that the United States is a dictatorship. Those who taught you that lied to you. For a complete description of the government of the United States, read the goddam Constitution. And, send a message to Obama that it would help if he had ever read the Constitution at least once in his life.
In case you live in a cave, Obama has been president for 4 years. In that 4 years the debt has nearly doubled. In fact, the debt did double:
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/
Tell us what happened to the debt and deficit since the Democrats took control of all the purse strings of government in January, 2007.
Did you say the Democrats doubled the debt?
Did you say the Democrats increased the deficit A THOUSAND GODDAM PERCENT?
Now, to answer the question, you have to identify a real source of money.
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
Dude, you wouldn't know a Civics class from the Honda make of automobile.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#8593 Feb 18, 2013
Black Rhino wrote:
<quoted text>
No he won't.
Bush "won" his presidency under controversy...
There's your "asterisk", sheep.
You really 'try' doncha? Barack Hussein Obama still hasn't provided a certified birf certificate. So don't give us the Bush horsehockey?? He's retired.
Shakalaka

Morrow, GA

#8596 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a valid comparison. Here it is again:
Hitler:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Sought revenge for a lost war
Democrats:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Seek revenge for losing the Cold War
Bush Family Funded
Adolf Hitler
Iraq War.ru
8-26-3
Have you ever wondered how Adolph Hitler - a mediocre painter of Austrian origin - transformed himself into Germany's Fuhrer during the 1930s and 1940s?
The Nazi phenomenon was no historical coincidence, and far less a philosophical whim made real by just one man. Nazism had its followers, many of them exceptionally wealthy, veritable alchemists of the financial world back then.
According to research carried out over the last few years, Wall Street bankers (amongst others) financed Hitler's rise to power whilst making large profits at the same time. What is yet still more deplorable is the fact that relatives of George Bush were amongst this group of individuals.
U.S. authors Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Cheitkin reveal in the recently published George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography that Prescott Bush (George W. Bush's grandfather) and other directors of the Union Banking Company (UBC) were Nazi collaborators.
The book relates how in 1922 - when national socialism was emerging - railroad impresario W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin and interviewed the Thyssen family with a view to founding a German-U.S. bank. The Thyssens were already behind-the-scenes owners of several financial institutions that allowed them to transfer their money from Germany to the Netherlands and from there onto the United States.
The banks in question were the August Thyssen Bank whose headquarters were located in Berlin; the Bank voor Handel (Netherlands) and the Union Banking Corporation (New York). At the beginning of the 1920s, one of the members of this family, Fritz Thyssen - author of I Paid Hitler - contributed some $25,000 USD to the recently formed German National Socialist Workers' Party, becoming the prime and most important financier of the Fuhrer in his ascent to power.
According to the book's authors, Thyssen was fascinated by Hitler, citing his talent as a public speaker and his ability to lead the masses. However, what impressed him most was the order that prevailed at his rallies and the almost military discipline of his followers.
And so, in 1931 Thyssen joined the Nazi party, becoming one of the most powerful members of the Nazi war machine.
At that time, the magnate presided over the German Steel Trust, a steel industry consortium founded by Clarence Dillon, one of Wall Street's most influential men. One of Dillon's most trustworthy collaborators was Samuel Bush: Prescott's father, George Senior's grandfather and great-grandfather of the current U.S. president George W. Bush.
In 1923, Harriman and the Thyssens decided to set up a bank and appointed George Herbert Walker - Prescott's father-in-law - as president. Later, in 1926, they established the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) with Prescott Bush at the helm. That same year, he was also named vice president and partner at Brown Brothers Harriman. Both firms allowed the Thyssens to send money to the United States from Germany via the Netherlands.
Shakalaka

Morrow, GA

#8597 Feb 18, 2013
U.S. economist Victor Thorn has noted that although a large number of other corporations aided the Nazis (such as Standard Oil and Rockefeller's Chase Bank, as well as U.S. automobile manufacturers) Prescott Bush's interests were much more profound and sinister.
Thorn adds that UBC became a secret channel to protect Nazi capital leaving Germany for the United States via the Netherlands. When the Nazis needed to retrieve their funds, Brown Brothers Harriman sent them directly to Germany.
In this way, UBC received money from the Netherlands and Brown Brothers Harriman sent it back. And who was on the executive of both of these companies? Prescott Bush himself, the Nazis' first money launderer.

In their book, Tarpley and Chaitkin explain that in this way a significant part of the Bush family's financial base is related to supporting and aiding Adolph Hitler. Therefore, the current U.S. president, just like his father (former CIA director, vice president and president) reached the peak of the U.S. political hierarchy thanks to his great-grandfather and grandfather and generally his entire family, who financially aided and encouraged the Nazis.

Some time later, in October 1942, the U.S. authorities confiscated Nazi bank funds from the New York UBC, whose then president was Prescott. The firm was condemned as a financial and commercial collaborator with the enemy and all its assets were seized.

Later, the U.S. government also ordered the seizure of the assets of a further two leading financial agencies directed by Prescott through the accounts of the Harriman banking institution: the Holland-America Trading Corporation (a U.S.-Dutch commercial firm) and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation.

Then on November 11, 1942, an embargo was imposed on the Silesian-American Corporation - another firm headed by Bush and Walker - under the same Trading with the Enemy Act.

However, in 1951, the embargo was lifted and the enterprising businessman recovered some $1.5 million USD, earmarked for new investments largely to swell the Bush family's patrimony.

To this should be added a resumé of files belonging to Dutch and U.S. information services confirming the direct links between Prescott Bush, the German Thyssen family and the blood money of a group of rich U.S. families from the Second World War.

Tarpley and Chaitkin affirm that the great financial crash of 1929-1931 affected the United States, Germany and Britain, weakening their respective governments. At the same time, Prescott Bush became even more diligent, still more desirous of doing everything that was necessary to safeguard his place in the world. It was during this crisis that some members of the Anglo-U.S wealthy class supported the installation of Hitler's regime in Germany.

To sum up, the authors categorically state that the Bush family's fortune arose as a result of its unconditional support for Adolph Hitler's political project.

The UBC, under Prescott Bush's direction and with the long-term cooperation of Fritz Thyssen's German Steel Trust participated in the emergence, preparation and financing of the Nazi war machine through the manufacture of armored vehicles, fighter planes, guns and explosives.

The Bush family's habit of dominating territories and wealth is nothing new. Their fascist genes were generated during the 1930s. Therefore defining the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and the threats to other countries as a continuance of blitzkreig offensives as fascist is no blunder. Neither is convening an anti-fascist front is a rhetorical exercise.

ummm hmmmm

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#8598 Feb 18, 2013
Black Rhino wrote:
<quoted text>What in the blue hell is twitchy??!?!?

Nevermind. I don't want to know.
Changing subject?

NOW, LET'S PLAY:
THE LIBERAL TRIVIA GAME!!!!!!

Question #1

How many Liberals claim Christopher Dorner was a HERO!!!

A. 1,135
B. 2,000
C. 75

Question #2:

How many people leaving California every week?

A. 1,135
B. 2,000
C. 75

Question #3:

How many of the 2,000 Liberals leaving California claim Christopher Dorner was a Hero:

A. 1,135
B. 2,000
C. 75
D. 75 +(2,000 - 1,135)
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#8599 Feb 18, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Changing subject?
NOW, LET'S PLAY:
THE LIBERAL TRIVIA GAME!!!!!!
Question #1
How many Liberals claim Christopher Dorner was a HERO!!!
A. 1,135
B. 2,000
C. 75
Question #2:
How many people leaving California every week?
A. 1,135
B. 2,000
C. 75
Question #3:
How many of the 2,000 Liberals leaving California claim Christopher Dorner was a Hero:
A. 1,135
B. 2,000
C. 75
D. 75 +(2,000 - 1,135)
time for you to leave and head west....got some nice under water trailer parek cottages for sale.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#8600 Feb 19, 2013
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh yes when you run out of talking points revert to the Hitler comparison.
If the jackboot fits....

Hitler:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Sought revenge for a lost war

Democrats:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Seek revenge for losing the Cold War

Looking at the rise of Hitler and the Demcorats, I see way too many similarities.

Where is the comparison inaccurate, and why?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#8601 Feb 19, 2013
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, you wouldn't know a Civics class from the Honda make of automobile.
You're running away from this post like a dog escaping from Michael Vick's house.

How about you comment on the content of the post. Tell us where the post is inaccurate. Here's the post again for your easy reference:

Civics 101 (refresher course for those who never paid attention in high school)
Congress controlls all spending, revenue and borrowing.
Obviously, you were taught that the United States is a dictatorship. Those who taught you that lied to you. For a complete description of the government of the United States, read the goddam Constitution. And, send a message to Obama that it would help if he had ever read the Constitution at least once in his life.
In case you live in a cave, Obama has been president for 4 years. In that 4 years the debt has nearly doubled. In fact, the debt did double:
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/
Tell us what happened to the debt and deficit since the Democrats took control of all the purse strings of government in January, 2007.
Did you say the Democrats doubled the debt?
Did you say the Democrats increased the deficit A THOUSAND GODDAM PERCENT?
Now, to answer the question, you have to identify a real source of money.
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#8602 Feb 19, 2013
Shakalaka wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush Family Funded
Adolf Hitler
Iraq War.ru
8-26-3
Have you ever wondered how Adolph Hitler - a mediocre painter of Austrian origin - transformed himself into Germany's Fuhrer during the 1930s and 1940s?
The Nazi phenomenon was no historical coincidence, and far less a philosophical whim made real by just one man. Nazism had its followers, many of them exceptionally wealthy, veritable alchemists of the financial world back then.
According to research carried out over the last few years, Wall Street bankers (amongst others) financed Hitler's rise to power whilst making large profits at the same time. What is yet still more deplorable is the fact that relatives of George Bush were amongst this group of individuals.
U.S. authors Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Cheitkin reveal in the recently published George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography that Prescott Bush (George W. Bush's grandfather) and other directors of the Union Banking Company (UBC) were Nazi collaborators.
The book relates how in 1922 - when national socialism was emerging - railroad impresario W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin and interviewed the Thyssen family with a view to founding a German-U.S. bank. The Thyssens were already behind-the-scenes owners of several financial institutions that allowed them to transfer their money from Germany to the Netherlands and from there onto the United States.
The banks in question were the August Thyssen Bank whose headquarters were located in Berlin; the Bank voor Handel (Netherlands) and the Union Banking Corporation (New York). At the beginning of the 1920s, one of the members of this family, Fritz Thyssen - author of I Paid Hitler - contributed some $25,000 USD to the recently formed German National Socialist Workers' Party, becoming the prime and most important financier of the Fuhrer in his ascent to power.
According to the book's authors, Thyssen was fascinated by Hitler, citing his talent as a public speaker and his ability to lead the masses. However, what impressed him most was the order that prevailed at his rallies and the almost military discipline of his followers.
And so, in 1931 Thyssen joined the Nazi party, becoming one of the most powerful members of the Nazi war machine.
At that time, the magnate presided over the German Steel Trust, a steel industry consortium founded by Clarence Dillon, one of Wall Street's most influential men. One of Dillon's most trustworthy collaborators was Samuel Bush: Prescott's father, George Senior's grandfather and great-grandfather of the current U.S. president George W. Bush.
In 1923, Harriman and the Thyssens decided to set up a bank and appointed George Herbert Walker - Prescott's father-in-law - as president. Later, in 1926, they established the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) with Prescott Bush at the helm. That same year, he was also named vice president and partner at Brown Brothers Harriman. Both firms allowed the Thyssens to send money to the United States from Germany via the Netherlands.
LOL.
Well, if you can't say "Bush did it, too" to justify some lunatic behavior, you say "the Bush family did it, too".
How about we talk about what is happening to-f**k*ng-day.

Here's the comparison again for your reference:

Hitler:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Sought revenge for a lost war

Democrats:
Political genuis
Social radical
Consumed with racial hatred
Seek revenge for losing the Cold War

Tell us why this comparison is not valid, or just admit the Democrats are just another fascist mentality that appears in human society from time to time.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#8603 Feb 19, 2013
Black Rhino wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did Dumbya'a money come from?
There ya go, sheep.
I'm betting you can't even answer that question.
By the way, the dot-com bust and the war the Arabs started only added 3.5 trillion dollars to the debt before the Democrats took full control of the purse strings of government in January, 2007.

Please tell us what the Democrats did to the debt and deficit since.
Did you say the Democrats doubled the goddam debt?
Did you say the Democrats increased the deficit A THOUSAND GODDAM PERCENT?

If the money isn't found to fund Obama's government, the government collapses and the existence of the United States comes to an end.
How do you feel about the end of the United States?

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

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