What the 2012 election taught us

There are 20 comments on the The Washington Post story from Nov 6, 2012, titled What the 2012 election taught us. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Washington Post.

Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2878 Nov 22, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! We weren't?
Early settlements and colonies were absolutely based in capitalism. There was private ownership of production, the creation of goods or services for profit, competitive markets and capital accumulation.
You obviously don't have even a basic understanding of the word.
Oh don't bother arguing with Einstein ??? he knows everything, just ask him !!!! and how I know ,Is because he puts his words together so well.....LMAO
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#2879 Nov 22, 2012
Seeing how all those "smart" teabaggers had such arrogant projections before the election and even in 2008 and were DEAD wrong.

Why would anyone believe more crap from the same "wizards"?

Because they're TEABAGGERS.

For over 30 years, they still think tax cuts create U.S. jobs.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —President George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

But they have, on a 30 + years of Illusion.

Poor foolish teabaggers.
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2880 Nov 22, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! We weren't?
Early settlements and colonies were absolutely based in capitalism. There was private ownership of production, the creation of goods or services for profit, competitive markets and capital accumulation.
You obviously don't have even a basic understanding of the word.
The only words he knows the meaning of La Santa Muerte....Is Handouts !!!! he is a typical liberal idiot...
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2881 Nov 22, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Do you watch dodgeball a lot ???? sounds like it....get a different movie for Gods sake !!!
lol! What's the matter son? Feeling stupid?

Don't worry because it's catching up to your "looking stupid" now that reality is setting in for you!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2882 Nov 22, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Where exactly does it say, we should be forced to buy health care Pops,,,,,I can't find it !!!!
lol! I don't know son. That's your point.

Besides, I thought you people were the "independent" bunch. All of a sudden when work has to be done, you want it spoon fed to you?

What a bunch of clowns you are!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2883 Nov 22, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! We weren't?
Early settlements and colonies were absolutely based in capitalism. There was private ownership of production, the creation of goods or services for profit, competitive markets and capital accumulation.
You obviously don't have even a basic understanding of the word.
lol! You're reading out of a book son.

I guess in your mind it would also be fair to say China is practicing this economic format you've espoused.

wow.
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2884 Nov 22, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! What's the matter son? Feeling stupid?
Don't worry because it's catching up to your "looking stupid" now that reality is setting in for you!
Oh Ya....I'm the one looking stupid lol.....keep enlightening us....you really should go on Jeopardy ....you're Genius....
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2885 Nov 22, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>It's coming Poppa ,,,,I know you think that money the government spends ,grows on those palm and banana trees , but in reality it really doesn't ...wake up.....you're not really on fantasy Island
lol! It's a good thing you believe this.

Otherwise you'd have less than nothing son!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2886 Nov 22, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Oh don't bother arguing with Einstein ??? he knows everything, just ask him !!!! and how I know ,Is because he puts his words together so well.....LMAO
lol! Don't you just hate it when the Constitution doesn't side with you son?

And even worse when non con points it out to you and has to explain it.. and you still don't get it?
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2887 Nov 22, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>The only words he knows the meaning of La Santa Muerte....Is Handouts !!!! he is a typical liberal idiot...
lol! Clearly YOU know the words son!
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2888 Nov 22, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! I don't know son. That's your point.
Besides, I thought you people were the "independent" bunch. All of a sudden when work has to be done, you want it spoon fed to you?
What a bunch of clowns you are!
I don't want anything spoon fed to me, that would be you democrats position.....I work for a living ,unlike some people I know from Hawaii.that live off the system..... I won't mention any names but it starts with "YEAH"
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2889 Nov 22, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! It's a good thing you believe this.
Otherwise you'd have less than nothing son!
That made sense !!!!!

Since: Aug 11

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#2890 Nov 22, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! We weren't?
Early settlements and colonies were absolutely based in capitalism. There was private ownership of production, the creation of goods or services for profit, competitive markets and capital accumulation.
You obviously don't have even a basic understanding of the word.
Capitalism wasnt even talked about until the 19th century when Karl Marxs created the word described the econmical system the one economical system that Karl Marxs didnt have to write was Socialism because had & was already had been established and Society was going through a change in the 19th Century which was heading toward Capitalism which Karl Marxs spent 20years of his life writing the 4 volumes of capitalism.

Introduction to US History/Early Colonies

In one of the earliest instances of Socialism, the Virginia Colony had adopted a common store system where food was taken by the community and distributed out to everyone equally. Many of the colonists decided not work, leading to food shortages. The system demoralized those who did work because the food they produced was being distributed to nonworkers. Captain John Smith abolished common store in 1608 with a famous new policy, "He who does not work shall not eat." This policy provided an incentive to work by placing responsibility on the individual.

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_t...
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2891 Nov 22, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Capitalism wasnt even talked about until the 19th century when Karl Marxs created the word described the econmical system the one economical system that Karl Marxs didnt have to write was Socialism because had & was already had been established and Society was going through a change in the 19th Century which was heading toward Capitalism which Karl Marxs spent 20years of his life writing the 4 volumes of capitalism.
Introduction to US History/Early Colonies
In one of the earliest instances of Socialism, the Virginia Colony had adopted a common store system where food was taken by the community and distributed out to everyone equally. Many of the colonists decided not work, leading to food shortages. The system demoralized those who did work because the food they produced was being distributed to nonworkers. Captain John Smith abolished common store in 1608 with a famous new policy, "He who does not work shall not eat." This policy provided an incentive to work by placing responsibility on the individual.
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_t...
Sounds to me ...John Smith was a smart man !!!!!

Since: Nov 12

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#2892 Nov 22, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! You're reading out of a book son.
I guess in your mind it would also be fair to say China is practicing this economic format you've espoused.
wow.
Yeah, "a book". I had to reference historians as I wasn't there. Weird, huh?

As to the rest of your odd reply, you "guess" wrong. I "espoused" no economic format, simply posted the reality of early economics.

Where your "China" comment came from or what is has to do with the founding principles of our country is irrelevant.

Since: Nov 12

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#2893 Nov 22, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Capitalism wasnt even talked about
So what? Just because the word wasn't used doesn't mean it wasn't being practiced.

Is Marx one of your heroes?

Since: Nov 12

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#2894 Nov 22, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Oh don't bother arguing with Einstein ??? he knows everything, just ask him !!!! and how I know ,Is because he puts his words together so well.....LMAO
I run into a lot of posters like "Yeah".

Double talk, deflection, nitpicking semantics, and plenty of straw men dominate their posts.

It's easy to tear down their lame arguments, but gets boring quickly.

Time for food, family, and football.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Imhotep

United States

#2895 Nov 22, 2012
Romneisia apparently is a media borne virus that continues to baffle Republican voters.

To have ANY chance at winning in 2014 - the GOP needs to convince the following voters:

Women
Latinos
Minorities
18-29 year olds

When all is said and done:

1. Barack Obama has won an overwhelming majority in the Electoral College, a daunting majority of the popular vote and a majority of the nation’s states—including most of the country’s largest states and states in every major region of the republic: New England, the mid-Atlantic, the Great Lakes, the South, the Southwest, the Mountain West and the West.

2. Barack Obama has won more popular votes than any Democratic candidate for president in history—except Barack Obama in 2008.

3. Barack Obama is the first Democratic president to win more than 50 percent of the popular vote in a re-election run since Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1944.

4. Barack Obama is the only Democratic candidate for president since FDR to twice win more than 50 percent of the national vote.

5. Barack Obama has, in both of his presidential runs, won a higher percentage of the national vote than any Democratic nominee since Lyndon Johnson in his 1964 landslide victory.

Add it all up and Obama has a mandate from this year’s presidential election that is significantly greater than those afforded John Kennedy in 1960, Richard Nixon in 1968, Jimmy Carter in 1976 or George W. Bush in 2000 or 2004.

SOS - GOP

Liberal Suggestions

a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots.

b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations.

c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a "second bill of rights" as proposed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age.

Since: Aug 11

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#2896 Nov 22, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
So what? Just because the word wasn't used doesn't mean it wasn't being practiced.
Is Marx one of your heroes?
Every economical society including the US Marxs writing can be found, read his writting and you will understand and see how they have been incorporated into the US Economical Policy and besides the Republican Party & Lincoln Sided with Karl Marxs and had grand plans for US Society.

An Unfinished Revolution: Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln

The impact of the American Civil War on Karl Marx, and Karl Marx on America.

Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln exchanged letters at the end of the Civil War. Although they were divided by far more than the Atlantic Ocean, they agreed on the cause of “free labor” and the urgent need to end slavery. In his introduction, Robin Blackburn argues that Lincoln’s response signaled the importance of the German American community and the role of the international communists in opposing European recognition of the Confederacy.

The ideals of communism, voiced through the International Working Men’s Association, attracted many thousands of supporters throughout the US, and helped spread the demand for an eight-hour day. Blackburn shows how the IWA in America—born out of the Civil War—sought to radicalize Lincoln’s unfinished revolution and to advance the rights of labor, uniting black and white, men and women, native and foreign-born. The International contributed to a profound critique of the capitalist robber barons who enriched themselves during and after the war, and it inspired an extraordinary series of strikes and class struggles in the postwar decades.

In addition to a range of key texts and letters by both Lincoln and Marx, this book includes articles from the radical New York-based journal Woodhull and Claflin’s Weekly, an extract from Thomas Fortune’s classic work on racism Black and White, Frederick Engels on the progress of US labor in the 1880s, and Lucy Parson’s speech at the founding of the Industrial Workers of the World.

http://www.versobooks.com/books/954-an-unfini...
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2897 Nov 22, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Every economical society including the US Marxs writing can be found, read his writting and you will understand and see how they have been incorporated into the US Economical Policy and besides the Republican Party & Lincoln Sided with Karl Marxs and had grand plans for US Society.
An Unfinished Revolution: Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln
The impact of the American Civil War on Karl Marx, and Karl Marx on America.
Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln exchanged letters at the end of the Civil War. Although they were divided by far more than the Atlantic Ocean, they agreed on the cause of “free labor” and the urgent need to end slavery. In his introduction, Robin Blackburn argues that Lincoln’s response signaled the importance of the German American community and the role of the international communists in opposing European recognition of the Confederacy.
The ideals of communism, voiced through the International Working Men’s Association, attracted many thousands of supporters throughout the US, and helped spread the demand for an eight-hour day. Blackburn shows how the IWA in America—born out of the Civil War—sought to radicalize Lincoln’s unfinished revolution and to advance the rights of labor, uniting black and white, men and women, native and foreign-born. The International contributed to a profound critique of the capitalist robber barons who enriched themselves during and after the war, and it inspired an extraordinary series of strikes and class struggles in the postwar decades.
In addition to a range of key texts and letters by both Lincoln and Marx, this book includes articles from the radical New York-based journal Woodhull and Claflin’s Weekly, an extract from Thomas Fortune’s classic work on racism Black and White, Frederick Engels on the progress of US labor in the 1880s, and Lucy Parson’s speech at the founding of the Industrial Workers of the World.
http://www.versobooks.com/books/954-an-unfini...
Where exactly does slavery exist in the U.S today ????

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