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Republicans linking Hagel's nomination to demand for information from White House on Benghazi

There are 482 comments on the The Washington Post story from Feb 14, 2013, titled Republicans linking Hagel's nomination to demand for information from White House on Benghazi. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

In this Jan. 31, 2013 file photo, former Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel, President Obama's choice for defense secretary, testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee during his confirmation hearing, on Capitol Hill in Washington.

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#214 Feb 18, 2013
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>Obama has said he wants high gas prices, to cure our dependency on oil, he has no clue what high gas prices does to the small businessman, poor and middle class or maybe he does.
If actually true at all, it's got to be confusing for the middle class, as they are too used to the republican backed corporate wealthy screwing them over constantly.....
gossamer

Roseville, MI

#215 Feb 18, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Gas was about 1.85/1.87 when Obama took office.
Under Obama gas has been the highest ever.
conservative crapola

Zionhill, PA

#216 Feb 18, 2013
gossamer wrote:
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Under Obama gas has been the highest ever.
You're an uninformed liar.
gossamer

Roseville, MI

#217 Feb 18, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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You're an uninformed liar.
Not.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#218 Feb 18, 2013
Oil was about $20 a barrel for decades. Now that all the easy to get at cheap oil is gone, it's down to deep water drilling, fracking for shale oil and processing sand tar oil. So oil shot up to over $150 a barrel and that's a big reason the economy collapsed. It's still over $100 a barrel, and the minute China or any other country tries to grow again, oil will shoot back up to $150 a barrel.

People miss the whole entire point. The point is cheap oil ran out so the rich took the U.S. down by taking the manufacturing jobs to China, by giving out bad mortgages they made commissions on, by having two wars they made tons of money off of. The end of cheap oil made the greedy and powerful try to get as much money as they can possibly get to protect themselves from the end of oil.

The real question everyone should have asked when the country collapsed in 2008 was "why would the rich people of a country take their own country down?" Then go and read books and look at documentaries and try to figure out what happened.

I had already voted Republican for over 30 years when the country collapsed in 2008 so I knew it was not a matter of just moving from being a D to an R, and that is the big mistake the Tea Party made. You have to go beyond TV, beyond the media and think about what happened yourself and then try to figure out why they did it. No one takes their own country down unless something huge is coming along that changes everything. Then you have to go and look and try to find out what that thing is.

When you do that, you find out that the big thing is the end of cheap oil, world oil production peaking, oil fields drying up.

The problem is it takes intelligent people who are willing to read books and think for themselves to figure things out and make changes in our government. We have a country of very low IQ people who are very lazy, who don't read books at all and who don't think for themselves and who don't have IQs even high enough to think about why the U.S. collapsed. So they flip on the TV, do the hate black guy stuff and simply repeat what people on the TV say, and this is the downfall of the nation. The dumbed down masses have no power. If you can't think for yourselves and you don't trust yourself to believe you can find out what happened on your own and give yourself the respect that you are smart enough to do so, then the politicians own you. That's the problem.

Gas is expensive because oil is expensive because cheap oil has run out. Go look into it for yourselves.

And, if most of the cheap oil was gone and Iraq held 20 percent of the remaining world's oil reserves, now you know why Bush invaded Iraq. You paid for Exxon and BP to be able to stay in business. The private oil companies had almost no reserves left, so no value, and most of the remaining world's oil is owned by countries, it's nationalized, so then you saw the U.S. invade the country that had nationalized oil, 20 percent of the remaining oil in the world, and today BP and Exxon control it.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#219 Feb 18, 2013
Actually, if the price of a barrel of oil is 5 times higher now than it used to be, gas should actually be 5 times higher than it was when oil was $20 a barrel. And imagine how much more food is going to cost using triple digit oil to grow food. And notice how no one on MSNBC nor on Fox ever talks about how cheap oil has run out and about how that ends globalization and raises the cost of transportation, manufacturing, food, etc.

The TV isn't telling you anything real.
CSULB Josh

Long Beach, CA

#220 Feb 18, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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Those poor, beleaguered businesspeople. We're tired of hearing it.
Well DUH! Obviously you don't care about the private sector workers or their employers, or our shameful National unemployment rate or you wouldn't have voted for obama in November.
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#221 Feb 18, 2013
gossamer wrote:
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Under Obama gas has been the highest ever.
I'm not sure if a president has much to do with gas prices being the OPEC cartel sets prices. The old supply and demand formula comes into play.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#222 Feb 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>So what? Candy bars were a nickel, when i was a kid.....
How quickly you run from your own post pookie. Get a grip.

au contraire

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#223 Feb 18, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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I'm not sure if a president has much to do with gas prices being the OPEC cartel sets prices. The old supply and demand formula comes into play.
The futures market sets the price.......or so we are lead to believe.

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#224 Feb 18, 2013
Pamela wrote:
Actually, if the price of a barrel of oil is 5 times higher now than it used to be, gas should actually be 5 times higher than it was when oil was $20 a barrel. And imagine how much more food is going to cost using triple digit oil to grow food. And notice how no one on MSNBC nor on Fox ever talks about how cheap oil has run out and about how that ends globalization and raises the cost of transportation, manufacturing, food, etc.
The TV isn't telling you anything real.
It's not like we weren't warned for decades that we had become too addicted to cheap oil....in this conversation, no one want's to recall all the warning we were given.....we have actually built much of this environment we are living through.....

au contraire

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#225 Feb 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It's not like we weren't warned for decades that we had become too addicted to cheap oil....in this conversation, no one want's to recall all the warning we were given.....we have actually built much of this environment we are living through.....
Yes, in California you can barly find micro shrimp still in the dirt.
conservative crapola

Zionhill, PA

#226 Feb 18, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, in California you can barly find micro shrimp still in the dirt.
Your caregiver Lester said he found one in your pants.
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#227 Feb 18, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>The futures market sets the price.......or so we are lead to believe.
Yea, so they say. No one blames them when prices go down.

au contraire

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#228 Feb 18, 2013
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Your caregiver Lester said he found one in your pants.
Yous' be a sick puppy rastis.

au contraire

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#229 Feb 18, 2013
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>Obama has said he wants high gas prices, to cure our dependency on oil, he has no clue what high gas prices does to the small businessman, poor and middle class or maybe he does.
Obama so loved the poor......he created 12 million more.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#230 Feb 18, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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I'm not sure if a president has much to do with gas prices being the OPEC cartel sets prices. The old supply and demand formula comes into play.
OPEC isn't even the big player any longer. Two of the largest oil reserves left are sand tar. One of them is in Canada and the other one is in Venezuela. Sand tar is strip mining and extensive processing using massive amounts of water and natural gas to process so the return is nothing like regular cheap oil. Cheap oil used like 1 barrel of oil to get maybe 50 barrels of oil. Sand tar processing is very expensive and the oil is a different grade. It's more like 1 barrel of oil used to process it gives you 2 barrels of oil. That's why it's so expensive now. So is deep water drilling. The find off the coast of Brazil is like 6 miles under the ocean floor. It's so far down that many oil companies did not want to even try to get at it. Also, fracking for shale involves a ton of toxic chemicals. Fracking for natural gas causes more air pollution than all vehicles in the U.S. combined. So we are at the end of the age of cheap oil. That's why the rich took the U.S. down when Bush was in office. It's every man for himself from here on out.

I'll give you an example about the loss of power that OPEC had. Saudi Arabia used to be the big oil producer. Their largest most reliable oil field is called Gadwar. It's starting to run dry and the Saudis are now putting in solar panels in mass. So that tells you it's a new energy order.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#231 Feb 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It's not like we weren't warned for decades that we had become too addicted to cheap oil....in this conversation, no one want's to recall all the warning we were given.....we have actually built much of this environment we are living through.....
People can get a lot of good information about the end of cheap oil and what will change for all of us in our lives from Jeff Rubin. Go into Youtube and look him up. I read two of his books. He's an economist and the most sought after expert on oil. He explains things in a way that is not political, not even environmental, it's just common sense economics about the loss of cheap oil. He's a super smart guy.

The TV channels are just selling what they want to sell to the people for their own political reasons. The ONLY people I like and agree with are Jeff Rubin, Ron Paul and Peter Schiff. The Libertarian economists know what they are talking about, IMO.

MSNBC is selling unions in government jobs and welfare and they have nothing real to offer to anyone. Fox is just selling a war in Iran and the oil companies to the public. They have nothing real to offer anyone either.

People need to start thinking outside of the box, read books. I'm reading 3 of Chris Hedges' books right now. Those fake news channels are paid for by the corporations and other special interests to brainwash people and to make up stories that are not real in order to control the vote. People have to look into things for themselves.
Independent

Grissom Afb, IN

#232 Feb 18, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Obama so loved the poor......he created 12 million more.
No time to worry about those poor folks when you can play golf with Tiger.
goose

La Grange, IL

#233 Feb 18, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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I'm not sure if a president has much to do with gas prices being the OPEC cartel sets prices. The old supply and demand formula comes into play.
Yes, plus the different gasoline blends used all over the country.

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