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Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal immigrants should be deported

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#400 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
Yes, very true it is, X-Man.
For proof in the realworld, just look at how border crossings dropped to record lows when the US economy tanked and there were no jobs to be had. That word got across the border immediately and people stopped coming.
Solve the problem, don't treat the symptom...
How are you going to stop me from hiring an illegal?

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#401 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
No need to secure the border, Au Contrair, if. You solve the problem.
You just don't get that the border can never be perfectly sealed, nor would any sane person want it even clse, as it would mean a KOrean DMZ like zone on every border and beach.
again, the true facts of this issue escape your tiny intellect.
If your theory held water, then the wave of illegals would not have kept increasing as our unemployment increased....especially since Obama advertised on Mexican TV on how to come here and get on welfare. Obama not only opened the border, but put an escalator at the border to cross the Rio Grande.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#402 Feb 25, 2013
No, of course we can't have completely open borders, Sheeple. That is absurd and you know it. Why are you using such silly arguents when you have such a great brain at your disposal?

and thank you for pointing out the obsoleteness of that part of the 14th amendment. It needs to be changed so our immigration/citizenship policies are more in line with the other developed nations of this planet.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#404 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
No need to secure the border, Au Contrair, if. You solve the problem.
You just don't get that the border can never be perfectly sealed, nor would any sane person want it even clse, as it would mean a KOrean DMZ like zone on every border and beach.
again, the true facts of this issue escape your tiny intellect.
Have you been to US-Mexican border? Except for ElPaso Tx, it is 99% barren desert.

PERFECT for a DMZ.

Without a border, what's to stop the criminals from coming in an stealing what they want and then just going back over the border to the safety of Mexico?

No jobs needed, they just steal what they need.

Can a border be 100% absolutely secure? Of course not; but we CAN easily stop 99.9% of them from getting in, and then deal with the few thousand that manage to slip by.

Your way we have millions more roaming the country looking for an opportunity to get illegally hired (some one will do it) or steal what they need or have an anchor baby and get the benefits legally.

It HAS to start with sealing our border through whatever means necessary.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#405 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
The same way you stop people from commiting other crimes. Make the enforced penalty harsh enought to make it not worth the benifit.
if AZ just enforced the law they have had on their books for over a decade now where you lose your business license for hiring illegal workers, they would not have a problemwith it now.(Or a very insignificant problem...)
And that's worked so well that we have no murders or theft or rapes etc, etc?

Punishing AFTER the crime as been committed IS NOT preventing the crime from happening; it's only punishing the crime AFTER it has happened.

The ONLY way to prevent a crime is to stop that crime BEFORE it happens.

Arresting someone AFTER they shoot someone prevent that shooting from happening. But stopping that person from getting a gun WOULD stop that shooting from happening.

Preventing the person from BEING an illegal immigrant is the ONLY way to prevent an illegal immigrant from being hired.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#406 Feb 25, 2013
They have boats in Mexico now, Sheeple. Your DMZ would extend across all our beautiful beaches also, if it were to work. Which it wouldn't as we could in no way afford this pointless, inneffectual waste of our money.

In fact, I am in the Sonoran desert right now, and it is really a thriving, beautiful landscape if you were to ever truly spend some time in it.

it would seem both your basic premise and your cocnlusion from it are incorrect on this issue.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#407 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
No, of course we can't have completely open borders, Sheeple. That is absurd and you know it. Why are you using such silly arguents when you have such a great brain at your disposal?
and thank you for pointing out the obsoleteness of that part of the 14th amendment. It needs to be changed so our immigration/citizenship policies are more in line with the other developed nations of this planet.
Why can't we have open borders if you're not going to stop the illegals from coming in?

So only US citizens or legal visitors would have to go through checkpoints, but the illegals can just walk through because we're going to try to punish anyone who gets caught employing them?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#408 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
They have boats in Mexico now, Sheeple. Your DMZ would extend across all our beautiful beaches also, if it were to work. Which it wouldn't as we could in no way afford this pointless, inneffectual waste of our money.
In fact, I am in the Sonoran desert right now, and it is really a thriving, beautiful landscape if you were to ever truly spend some time in it.
it would seem both your basic premise and your cocnlusion from it are incorrect on this issue.
And we have a Navy & Coast Guard with excellent radar and even sonar if they try using a sub. We intercept 99.9% of all boats coming from Cuba.

I lived in southern Texas for 3 years and traveled extensively all along the border. It is indeed a thriving landscape, especially when hundres of illegals are scampering across it in the moonlight. Aaaah, so pretty......

The cost would easily be paid for in savings from all the crime committed from our current open borders policy.

Give the taxpayer the option to choose which they want to pay for- your employer penalty enforcement or my border enforcement.

Want to bet which the overwhelming majority would choose to spend their tax dollars on?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#409 Feb 25, 2013
Again, no one is able to say how they can stop me from hiring an illegal immigrant.

You can punish me AFTER the fact IF you catch me, but you CAN NOT stop ANYONE from hiring an illegal.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#410 Feb 25, 2013
Well, teddy, you seem to be putting words in my mouth. I never stated it was safe there, I clearly stated that when US jobs dropped off the map, people immediately quit comng over the border illegally...

just a fact showing what is really driving this problem and how we all know how to solve t if we, as a society REALLY want to.

As yet we do not...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#411 Feb 25, 2013
Seriously, Sheeple? You really want to try that kind of logic? You are better than that.
No-one can prevent you from commiting any crime if you want to.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#412 Feb 25, 2013
No, Sheeple, the cost of the border control you describe would not be paid for by that at all. it is a pipe dream and you know it. No border has ever been made perfectly secure.people could get into North Korea right now if they wanted to.

Your basic premise is faulty and our are attemting to treat a symptom of the problem thinking it will cure the whole disease. It will not.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#413 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
Seriously, Sheeple? You really want to try that kind of logic? You are better than that.
No-one can prevent you from commiting any crime if you want to.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

And you're completely delusional if you think people aren't going to continue hiring illegal immigrants as long as there are illegals in this country. Especially when they can pay them 1/3rd or less of what they would have to pay a US citizen.

And you'd still have to prove beyond a doubt they KNEW they were hiring illegals to even be able to attempt to fine them for it.

The only thing we can do is try to prevent as many people from BECOMING illegal to start with.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#414 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
No, Sheeple, the cost of the border control you describe would not be paid for by that at all. it is a pipe dream and you know it. No border has ever been made perfectly secure.people could get into North Korea right now if they wanted to.
Your basic premise is faulty and our are attemting to treat a symptom of the problem thinking it will cure the whole disease. It will not.
A tourniquet on a traumatic amputation will stop 99.9% of the bleeding and keep you alive.

Scooping up the blood and putting it back in AFTER it hits the floor will kill you.

Again, put it to a vote of the people. Let the taxpayers decide which they would rather have their tax dollars spent on- border enforcement to stop as many as possible, or an open border but attempting to punish employers.

Your solution is like putting a bandaid on an amputation.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#415 Feb 25, 2013
Sheeple, they will stop hiring them if they will lose their business for doing so.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#416 Feb 25, 2013
E-verfy works for those that use it, Sheeple. This s a fact that cannot be denied.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#417 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
No, of course we can't have completely open borders, Sheeple. That is absurd and you know it. Why are you using such silly arguents when you have such a great brain at your disposal?
and thank you for pointing out the obsoleteness of that part of the 14th amendment. It needs to be changed so our immigration/citizenship policies are more in line with the other developed nations of this planet.
Other developed nations are always wanting to be us.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#418 Feb 25, 2013
Hardly, Su Contrair....hardly. they do not want our health care system which costs more per person with worse outcomes than theirs. They do not want our debt to GDP ratio. They do not want. Our educational systems. They do not want our citizenship rules.

again, the people you parrot lied To you. The US is in no way the best at everything in the world. In fact, there are many areas, as pointed out, where we lag ehing the rest of the world...

reality is fun (for those of us that can handle it..)!
Alfonso Aguilar

San Luis Obispo, CA

#419 Feb 25, 2013
I don`t think you are in the right place! when we received the inmigrants from Italy and Portugal into my Country Venezuela during the war II, we never said that. I can not believe it I wonder what generation are you from other country??
teddyr4me wrote:
They are uneducated, unskilled and their lot in life will remain the same if they were to get amnestied. They are just another group who will learn to make a living off the few Americans who are still working. It will take many generations of them before they actually show improvements in their lifestyles, while in the process they will be taking this country down, rather than lifting it up. Why do we continue to have this conversation, and why do the idiots who keep bringing it up keep getting reelected???

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#420 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
Hardly, Su Contrair....hardly. they do not want our health care system which costs more per person with worse outcomes than theirs. They do not want our debt to GDP ratio. They do not want. Our educational systems. They do not want our citizenship rules.
again, the people you parrot lied To you. The US is in no way the best at everything in the world. In fact, there are many areas, as pointed out, where we lag ehing the rest of the world...
reality is fun (for those of us that can handle it..)!
Which socialist countries are you trying to sell us on? Greece, England or France. All are bankrupt you know.

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