Why They Hate Obama

Aug 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Daily Beast

As the Virginia Flaggers loft their Confederate flag in opposition to the 'tyranny' of 2013, Jamelle Bouie argues that racial bias plays at least some part in Obama's collapse in the South.

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Do the Chinese own more of America today or when Bush was in office?
You keep dwelling on Bush's last years instead of what took place between the time the technology bubble burst until the time of the housing market burst. And let's not forget the most severe attack on American soil in our history that Bush guided us through:
http://www.financialsense.com/sites/default/f...
The shedding of the Economy took place between those times..... unemployment rose consistently from the historical lows unemployment Bush inherited from Clinton, When did Goodyear, one of Ohio's largest Employers pack up and head overseas?

When did Ford begin to shut down those plants in Ohio and move to Mexico?

You're in denial about the economy and the shift of well paying production jobs out of America overseas.....
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Had Health Care not been reformed, America all corners would look like the wasteland, economically that Ohio has become from 8 years of Bush Economics.

It's asinine to suggest we did nothing and stood by an allowed Health Care cost to continue to annihilate the American economy.

That's the strategy that the Republicans applied that helped to collapse the economy and stagnant middle class wages over the last 20 years.

This is just one of the many financial decisions why the Republicans will not regain the White House for a long time. They have no ideas on how to relieve the economic pressure on the American middle class earners.
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Commie Care is still to blame. If DumBama left healthcare alone, the Clinic would not be cutting budget and jobs. That's why the CEO named ObamaCare as the cause:
"The Plain Dealer asked the Cleveland Clinic and health care policy analysts to break down the parts of the act that affect hospital revenues in order to better understand the factors at play. Those parts are:
MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENTS: Medicare is the federal health insurance program that pays for people age 65 and older. It was passed in 1965 and retirees signed up starting the next year. Money comes from premiums that retirees pay, and from payroll taxes that most working Americans pay. Concern about the program's financial viability arises regularly because the elderly population is rising and the cost of medical care generally outpaces inflation and wage growth.
That's partly why the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, sets limits on what it will pay, just as private insurers negotiate the amounts they will pay doctors and hospitals for office visits, surgeries and outpatient procedures. This is an ongoing battle, with CMS constantly saying it needs to contain costs -- sometimes goaded by Congress to do so and sometimes doing it on its own.
But health care providers say every year that they are not paid enough. And they sometimes say they will have to cut services or stop accepting seniors as new patients if this continues.
The Affordable Care Act, or ACA, championed by President Barack Obama and passed by congressional Democrats in 2010, demanded new cuts:$716 billion over ten years. Some of these were tied to premiums that CMS paid to private insurers managing what was effectively a Medicare privatization project, called Medicare Advantage. But other Medicare cuts in the ACA were specifically for hospitals.
These included federal payments linked to hospitals' performance. Under the ACA, hospitals with an excessive number of preventable patient readmissions were to be penalized. Those penalties were up to 1 percent of hospitals' Medicare payments in 2013, and will be 2 percent this year and 3 percent in 2014.
The effect on the Cleveland Clinic has not been that severe, thanks to its lower readmission rate. It lost over $1 million last year 0.74 percent of its Medicare total but only 0.33 percent this year, cutting the losses in half, according to a Plain Dealer review in August."
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2013/...
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Typical, you don't think Millions of American families forced into bankruptcy from Medical bills is a disaster? How many American do you think are willing to surrender the right to include their college age kids from the Health Care policies now, or are willing to see their kids with preexisting conditions discriminated against again and shut out of receiving health care coverage?

You don't see any of that as a miscarriage of justice?

That's not a republican or democrat issue, that's an issue of basic humanity.
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Wrong. Many of us Republican voters are hoping the Unaffordable Care Act moves right along. We want the collapse so that Americans realize what a mistake it was voting for representatives that want as many government dependents as possible. Republicans warned of the disaster this would be and it turns out we were right. It is a disaster.
I say let ObamaCare roar through the country tearing up people's lives and livelihood. Let those doctors and healthcare workers retire or quit accepting patients. Let the costs keep soaring. Let the poor get poorer. Let's keep those industries cutting hours for their employees. This is going to be great for our side, and I hope our representatives stay out of it.
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So Cleveland Clinic is actually doing better under ACA than before having cut their losses....... That is not the point you were arguing.

How is it a bad program for this hospital when they are doing better now than before and their trending is going up and not down?

"The effect on the Cleveland Clinic has not been that severe, thanks to its lower readmission rate. It lost over $1 million last year 0.74 percent of its Medicare total but only 0.33 percent this year,"

This indicates an improvement.
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Commie Care is still to blame. If DumBama left healthcare alone, the Clinic would not be cutting budget and jobs. That's why the CEO named ObamaCare as the cause:
"The Plain Dealer asked the Cleveland Clinic and health care policy analysts to break down the parts of the act that affect hospital revenues in order to better understand the factors at play. Those parts are:
MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENTS: Medicare is the federal health insurance program that pays for people age 65 and older. It was passed in 1965 and retirees signed up starting the next year. Money comes from premiums that retirees pay, and from payroll taxes that most working Americans pay. Concern about the program's financial viability arises regularly because the elderly population is rising and the cost of medical care generally outpaces inflation and wage growth.
That's partly why the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, sets limits on what it will pay, just as private insurers negotiate the amounts they will pay doctors and hospitals for office visits, surgeries and outpatient procedures. This is an ongoing battle, with CMS constantly saying it needs to contain costs -- sometimes goaded by Congress to do so and sometimes doing it on its own.
But health care providers say every year that they are not paid enough. And they sometimes say they will have to cut services or stop accepting seniors as new patients if this continues.
The Affordable Care Act, or ACA, championed by President Barack Obama and passed by congressional Democrats in 2010, demanded new cuts:$716 billion over ten years. Some of these were tied to premiums that CMS paid to private insurers managing what was effectively a Medicare privatization project, called Medicare Advantage. But other Medicare cuts in the ACA were specifically for hospitals.
These included federal payments linked to hospitals' performance. Under the ACA, hospitals with an excessive number of preventable patient readmissions were to be penalized. Those penalties were up to 1 percent of hospitals' Medicare payments in 2013, and will be 2 percent this year and 3 percent in 2014.
The effect on the Cleveland Clinic has not been that severe, thanks to its lower readmission rate. It lost over $1 million last year 0.74 percent of its Medicare total but only 0.33 percent this year, cutting the losses in half, according to a Plain Dealer review in August."
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2013/...
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Eric Gustafson wrote:
Had Health Care not been reformed, America all corners would look like the wasteland, economically that Ohio has become from 8 years of Bush Economics.
It's asinine to suggest we did nothing and stood by an allowed Health Care cost to continue to annihilate the American economy.
That's the strategy that the Republicans applied that helped to collapse the economy and stagnant middle class wages over the last 20 years.
This is just one of the many financial decisions why the Republicans will not regain the White House for a long time. They have no ideas on how to relieve the economic pressure on the American middle class earners.
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There are plenty of ideas all of which are superior to ObamaCare.

The first step to reform is to control costs. You can't do that by asking politicians what's wrong, you ask professionals like those in the medical field and healthcare insurance companies. After you bring down costs, then you figure out how to pay for it.

Step one is pre-tax contributions for a mandatory Health Savings account. It can be a small deduction like 1% of gorss for those under let's say the age of 30, and then perhaps increase slightly by one percent every fifteen years or so.

Many healthcare providers will give you a discount when paying cash for your services. This is because it avoids all that paperwork and waiting time for payment. Currently when you see your physician and he charges you $80.00, the facility or administration has to fill out all this paperwork and send it to your insurance provider. It goes back and forth until payment is received. With a Health Savings account, all you would do is swipe your card like at ATM machine. You must use your HSA first before bringing the insurance company in.

Next is National Tort Reform. While successful medical lawsuits are few, it still costs healthcare workers and facilities a lot of money for malpractice insurance for those that try to sue. It worked out great in Texas. For a while there, medical personnel was growing at a faster rate than their population.

Next is to provide full payment for government patients. For many years, doctors and facilities were getting ripped off with Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements. In order to recoup that loss, they increased the price of their services so they could get that loss back from private insurance companies. That would require a higher deduction for people working, but it would ease the stress on our insurance companies so we non-senior citizens could enjoy good healthcare too.

Nationwide competition. Some states only allow certain insurance companies to sell insurance in their state. This restricts competition thus increasing prices. It should be eliminated so that all insurance companies compete on a national level.

These are just a few ideas that would lower our healthcare costs, and some of them wouldn't require one dime of taxpayer or private money.

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Barney Frank was a loud mouth Representative in the "Minority", What power did he have to stop House Reform measures?
Dodd was a Senator in the Minority, how did he stop Reform....... The Reform bill was written and debated, sent back to committee where the measure died........ That's not a measure that Dodd could have controlled..........
Reform was not an option for the Republicans, they've never been a hands on kind of party when it comes to invoking rules on any industry.
What is the last rule the Republicans enforced, that's contrary to their ideology, that don't believe in rules, law and order.
Who are you people trying to convince with this nonsense, Republican Reform?
You're barking up the wrong tree. There is very little difference between the two parties to me. They're both big government. Both parties had their hands in the housing collapse.

Both parties pushed for low income home ownership using the Communities Reinvestment Act. Clinton and a republican congress expanded on that act. Glass-Steagall was repealed.

If you recall, the SEC was watching porn when toxic securities were being traded.

Dodd was threatening a filibuster when attempts were made to reform Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. That's how a minority flexes some power, until recently. The senate just went nuclear.

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What good is the threat of a filibuster when there was no actual bill on the Senate Floor, the Bill never left the Committee. The Republican allowed their own bill to died in Committee. That has nothing to do with Dodd.

Glass-Steagall was repealed at the request of Phil Graham, that was one among a number of actions to prevent total financial melt down and had been in place since the great depression.

It was the mixing of commercial and investment banks that exposed depositors to those massive losses engineered by the derivatives packages for sale and traded on that unregulated mortgage securities index.

Watching porn is no excuse for blatant malpractice in not knowing there was a newly created index on wall street the Federal Government under Bush had not intentions of regulating no part of the market.

Hell the Feds guarantees those deposits in pass book accounts at some point they should have know and been aware of the consequences .
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You're barking up the wrong tree. There is very little difference between the two parties to me. They're both big government. Both parties had their hands in the housing collapse.
Both parties pushed for low income home ownership using the Communities Reinvestment Act. Clinton and a republican congress expanded on that act. Glass-Steagall was repealed.
If you recall, the SEC was watching porn when toxic securities were being traded.
Dodd was threatening a filibuster when attempts were made to reform Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. That's how a minority flexes some power, until recently. The senate just went nuclear.

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That's the decision of the Legislators in Indiana not to improve their employees health care packages...... They don't think enough of their middle class wage earners.
If they are that interest in cheap labor, why not recruit at the State's Parole office for new employees who would just be happy to have a job.
No it is not decision of the Legislators in Indiana it is called Tax Payers and if you think people who's jobs are strictly dependent on tax dollars as the middle class you got alot to learn especially about Business & Economics and how wealth is created.
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What good is the threat of a filibuster when there was no actual bill on the Senate Floor, the Bill never left the Committee. The Republican allowed their own bill to died in Committee. That has nothing to do with Dodd.
Glass-Steagall was repealed at the request of Phil Graham, that was one among a number of actions to prevent total financial melt down and had been in place since the great depression.
It was the mixing of commercial and investment banks that exposed depositors to those massive losses engineered by the derivatives packages for sale and traded on that unregulated mortgage securities index.
Watching porn is no excuse for blatant malpractice in not knowing there was a newly created index on wall street the Federal Government under Bush had not intentions of regulating no part of the market.
Hell the Feds guarantees those deposits in pass book accounts at some point they should have know and been aware of the consequences .
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That's the problem, they did.

What are they supposed to do with millions of bad loans? But the better question is, where did the bad loans come from and why?

The bad loans came from banks that were able to make the loans and sell them off to the secondary market. They were pressured to lower their standards in the attempt to have more minorities in houses. It went to the point of virtually no credit check or history. They were making these loans to just about anybody.

I'm a landlord and will never forget that time. I lost two great tenants with 0% down which was created during the Clinton administration. Both got loans with no money down and both were overextended on their credit. One of those tenants didn't even own their own television set. They were renting it.

You can talk about the Glass-Steagall act (signed by President Bill Clinton) all you want, but the truth is you can't pawn off bad securities unless you have those bad securities to begin with. When you're looking to solve a problem, you don't go to the end of the problem or even the middle, you solve a problem by going to it's beginning.
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What good is the threat of a filibuster when there was no actual bill on the Senate Floor, the Bill never left the Committee. The Republican allowed their own bill to died in Committee. That has nothing to do with Dodd.
Glass-Steagall was repealed at the request of Phil Graham, that was one among a number of actions to prevent total financial melt down and had been in place since the great depression.
It was the mixing of commercial and investment banks that exposed depositors to those massive losses engineered by the derivatives packages for sale and traded on that unregulated mortgage securities index.
Watching porn is no excuse for blatant malpractice in not knowing there was a newly created index on wall street the Federal Government under Bush had not intentions of regulating no part of the market.
Hell the Feds guarantees those deposits in pass book accounts at some point they should have know and been aware of the consequences .
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That's right, there was no bill. It died in committee due to Dodd's filibuster threats.

An interesting article by Karl Rove. You may not care for him and neither do I, but interesting none the less.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1231372...
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xxxrayted wrote:
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There are plenty of ideas all of which are superior to ObamaCare.
The first step to reform is to control costs. You can't do that by asking politicians what's wrong, you ask professionals like those in the medical field and healthcare insurance companies. After you bring down costs, then you figure out how to pay for it.
Step one is pre-tax contributions for a mandatory Health Savings account. It can be a small deduction like 1% of gorss for those under let's say the age of 30, and then perhaps increase slightly by one percent every fifteen years or so.
Many healthcare providers will give you a discount when paying cash for your services. This is because it avoids all that paperwork and waiting time for payment. Currently when you see your physician and he charges you $80.00, the facility or administration has to fill out all this paperwork and send it to your insurance provider. It goes back and forth until payment is received. With a Health Savings account, all you would do is swipe your card like at ATM machine. You must use your HSA first before bringing the insurance company in.
Next is National Tort Reform. While successful medical lawsuits are few, it still costs healthcare workers and facilities a lot of money for malpractice insurance for those that try to sue. It worked out great in Texas. For a while there, medical personnel was growing at a faster rate than their population.
Next is to provide full payment for government patients. For many years, doctors and facilities were getting ripped off with Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements. In order to recoup that loss, they increased the price of their services so they could get that loss back from private insurance companies. That would require a higher deduction for people working, but it would ease the stress on our insurance companies so we non-senior citizens could enjoy good healthcare too.
Nationwide competition. Some states only allow certain insurance companies to sell insurance in their state. This restricts competition thus increasing prices. It should be eliminated so that all insurance companies compete on a national level.
These are just a few ideas that would lower our healthcare costs, and some of them wouldn't require one dime of taxpayer or private money.
Your post makes allot of sense, unfortunately the Obama people will never allow this.

Obama care is all about control, it has very little to do with healthcare, it appears it was designed to fail, It's just failing a lot sooner than they expected it to, and they fear the political fallout when the people find out they've been goofed over.

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Your post makes allot of sense, unfortunately the Obama people will never allow this.
Obama care is all about control, it has very little to do with healthcare, it appears it was designed to fail, It's just failing a lot sooner than they expected it to, and they fear the political fallout when the people find out they've been goofed over.
Exactly!
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Has anyone heard of the so called knockout game ?

Why is this happening ?

http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TVOVT0...

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That's how Bush Apologist see this, those willing to ignore Bush's mandates for his contrive Ownership Society...... At the very least Bush should have provided consumer protections and oversight of Wall Street.
For the love of God, there was an unregulated Mortgage Securities Index created with no Federal oversight provided by the Federal Securities Commission....... That is more than bizarre.
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Poor little dimwit liberal. Do you need a sign on your cup that says coffee may be hot, do not to poor it on your crotch.

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Your post makes allot of sense, unfortunately the Obama people will never allow this.
Obama care is all about control, it has very little to do with healthcare, it appears it was designed to fail, It's just failing a lot sooner than they expected it to, and they fear the political fallout when the people find out they've been goofed over.
Yes, Obama and the other communist/socialist know that they have to win both houses to continue the death spiral of the American economy and make America the new nanny state that will then have zero power for protection, and our way of life.

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Has anyone heard of the so called knockout game ?
Why is this happening ?
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TVOVT0...
We invited them to c0me down and play. So far no takers. They are cowards.
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<quoted text>Yes, Obama and the other communist/socialist know that they have to win both houses to continue the death spiral of the American economy and make America the new nanny state that will then have zero power for protection, and our way of life.
What are your thoughts on the recent US Senate rules change on confirmations ?

I think they are getting ready to pack the courts with gun grabber democrat's.

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What are your thoughts on the recent US Senate rules change on confirmations ?
I think they are getting ready to pack the courts with gun grabber democrat's.
My feelings are very similar. I think Obama is trying to find legal cover for a gun grab. Of course it will only work where the states that liberals control, and those people are already defenseless because of who represents them.

I also thin Iran just showed Obama the real nuclear option and he as usual folded and gave them six months to finish making a bomb.

“God said let there be stupid”

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<quoted text>My feelings are very similar. I think Obama is trying to find legal cover for a gun grab. Of course it will only work where the states that liberals control, and those people are already defenseless because of who represents them.
I also thin Iran just showed Obama the real nuclear option and he as usual folded and gave them six months to finish making a bomb.
No one is surprised the french signed off on it.

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