Moms make case for gun control

Moms make case for gun control

There are 9248 comments on the usatoday.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Moms make case for gun control. In it, usatoday.com reports that:

Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1232 May 2, 2013
Duuh wrote:
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because it is a racist term and intended as a racial slur, bonehead.
Learn how to use a dictionary--bonehead:

mulatto | dated
noun ( pl.-toes or -tos)
a person of mixed white and black ancestry, esp. a person with one white and one black parent.
adjective
relating to or denoting a mulatto or mulattoes.
Hey

Huntsville, AL

#1233 May 2, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Learn how to use a dictionary--bonehead:
mulatto | dated
noun ( pl.-toes or -tos)
a person of mixed white and black ancestry, esp. a person with one white and one black parent.
adjective
relating to or denoting a mulatto or mulattoes.
bonehead. That wasn't the term he used. LOL

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1234 May 2, 2013
Are U Serious wrote:
<quoted text>So the police, ATF, and FBI are not being allowed to enforce laws that are already on the books concerning illegal gun purchases?
No. That propaganda spreading troll is posting misinformation to detract from the truth. The NRA has no influence on enforcement agencies, prosecutors, or judges.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1235 May 2, 2013
Duuh wrote:
A gun dealer, who supplies multiple murderers with guns he claims were “stolen” from his inventory, guns he never recorded on his books, or guns he sold to straw buyers with a wink and a nod, can operate with virtual impunity, thanks to laws written by the NRA.

One of these, passed in 1986, drastically reduced penalties for dealers who violate record-keeping laws, making violations misdemeanors rather than felonies. Another established an absurdly high standard of proof to convict dealers who sell to criminals. In 2003, Congress, at the NRA’s urging, barred the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the much-maligned agency responsible for enforcing federal gun laws, from forcing dealers to conduct inventory inspections that would detect lost and stolen guns. Car dealers like to know when inventory goes missing. Gun dealers? Not so curious.

Most astonishingly, the same NRA-inspired law forces the FBI to destroy Brady background checks for gun purchases within 24 hours, which makes it harder for law enforcement to identify dealers who falsify their records and makes it impossible to cross-check purchases made by gun traffickers from multiple dealers. Although federal law requires a dealer who sells more than one handgun to a single individual in a five-day period to file a special report with the BATF, the agency is unable to cross-check purchases from multiple dealers, so gun traffickers can simply hop from one gun store to the next, buying a single handgun at each until they accumulate the arsenals they want. Put another way, the NRA and its backers in Congress created a law that forces the FBI to destroy evidence of crimes, evidence of illegal multiple gun purchases.

The FBI warned Congress that passage of this 24-hour law would allow 97 percent of criminal buyers to escape apprehension, and the Justice Department’s inspector general said the law’s principal beneficiaries would be criminal gun dealers. But this doesn’t bother the NRA. It even opposes common-sense local ordinances requiring that gun dealers and private citizens report lost or stolen firearms within 24 to 48 hours. Police support these laws because they want to move quickly when a gun is lost or stolen (a half-million are stolen each year), before someone gets shot. They’re also supported by 78 percent of NRA members, who apparently recognize their value for public safety. They’re just not supported by the NRA leadership, which says they don’t work.
Ashamed if your source? Or do you just enjoy plagiarizing?

What about the people who were murdered due to the 5 or 10 day waiting periods preventing them from arming and protecting themselves? Tell their families that their deaths were worth it to have gun control that doesn't work.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1236 May 2, 2013
Duuh wrote:
And why can’t the BATF cross-check purchases by gun traffickers? Because in 1979 — and every year since — the NRA, which is obsessed with federal record-keeping, has gotten the Congress to prohibit creation of a centralized database of gun purchases. Among the NRA’s leading evangelists, whose faith in the durability of American democracy hovers perennially just above zero, it is an incontrovertible article of faith that such a database would allow a totalitarian government, such as the one LaPierre predicts if Barack Obama is reelected, to identify gun owners and seize their guns.

At this point, it might be useful to pause and take a deep breath. We can probably all agree that confiscating 300 million guns held by fully a third of U.S. households would be one formidable and messy undertaking. Let’s ignore the fact that this would be illegal and unconstitutional, and that the vast majority of Americans would find this eventuality unlikely . Let’s also ignore the question of who, exactly, would do this. Marines? Police? The National Guard? Does anyone living in the 21st century really believe that a dictatorial government would need a centralized database if it wanted to snatch our guns?

In a world where U.S. intelligence agencies can pinpoint a person’s exact location using a cellphone’s GPS, where tens of thousands of video cameras are running 24/7 in public and private spaces, where a vast smorgasbord of computers contains the most intimate details of our lives, from the movies we watch to the brand of toilet paper we prefer, even LaPierre must realize that it is patently absurd to claim that figuring out who has a gun requires a national registry. Identifying the most strident gun-rights true believers would be easiest of all, since they’re constantly advertising themselves. Credit card records of gun purchases, lists of subscribers to gun aficionado and paramilitary magazines, not to mention Field and Stream, chat rooms, Facebook, websites, tweets and blogs — the LL Bean mailing list!— contain the names of tens of millions of hunters, sportsmen, grandmothers and other gun owners.
Wow! You just can't help yourself can you?

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#1237 May 2, 2013
Duuh wrote:
A gun dealer, who supplies multiple murderers with guns he claims were stolen from his inventory, guns he never recorded on his books, or guns he sold to straw buyers with a wink and a nod, can operate with virtual impunity, thanks to laws written by the NRA.
One of these, passed in 1986, drastically reduced penalties for dealers who violate record-keeping laws, making violations misdemeanors rather than felonies. Another established an absurdly high standard of proof to convict dealers who sell to criminals. In 2003, Congress, at the NRAs urging, barred the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the much-maligned agency responsible for enforcing federal gun laws, from forcing dealers to conduct inventory inspections that would detect lost and stolen guns. Car dealers like to know when inventory goes missing. Gun dealers? Not so curious.
Most astonishingly, the same NRA-inspired law forces the FBI to destroy Brady background checks for gun purchases within 24 hours, which makes it harder for law enforcement to identify dealers who falsify their records and makes it impossible to cross-check purchases made by gun traffickers from multiple dealers. Although federal law requires a dealer who sells more than one handgun to a single individual in a five-day period to file a special report with the BATF, the agency is unable to cross-check purchases from multiple dealers, so gun traffickers can simply hop from one gun store to the next, buying a single handgun at each until they accumulate the arsenals they want. Put another way, the NRA and its backers in Congress created a law that forces the FBI to destroy evidence of crimes, evidence of illegal multiple gun purchases.
The FBI warned Congress that passage of this 24-hour law would allow 97 percent of criminal buyers to escape apprehension, and the Justice Departments inspector general said the laws principal beneficiaries would be criminal gun dealers. But this doesnt bother the NRA. It even opposes common-sense local ordinances requiring that gun dealers and private citizens report lost or stolen firearms within 24 to 48 hours. Police support these laws because they want to move quickly when a gun is lost or stolen (a half-million are stolen each year), before someone gets shot. Theyre also supported by 78 percent of NRA members, who apparently recognize their value for public safety. Theyre just not supported by the NRA leadership, which says they dont work.
Propaganda.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1238 May 2, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Ashamed if your source? Or do you just enjoy plagiarizing?
What about the people who were murdered due to the 5 or 10 day waiting periods preventing them from arming and protecting themselves? Tell their families that their deaths were worth it to have gun control that doesn't work.
Many of whom were buying a firearm for the first time. Because they were trying to protect themselves from someone that was threatening them.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1239 May 2, 2013
Duuh wrote:
And why...
Jim Jones and the democratic party

The move of Peoples Temple headquarters to San Francisco in 1975 invigorated Jones' political career. After the Temple served an important role in the mayoral election victory of George Moscone in 1975, Moscone appointed Jones as the Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.[43]

Unlike most other figures deemed as cult leaders, Jones was able to gain public support and contact with prominent local and national United States politicians. For example, Jones and Moscone met privately with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale on his campaign plane days before the 1976 election and Mondale publicly praised the Temple.[44][45] First Lady Rosalynn Carter also personally met with Jones on multiple occasions, corresponded with him about Cuba, and spoke with him at the grand opening of the San Francisco DEMOCRATIC Party Headquarters where Jones garnered louder applause than Mrs. Carter.[44][46][47]

In September 1977, Willie Brown served as master of ceremonies at a large testimonial dinner for Jones attended by Governor Jerry Brown and Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally and other political figures.[48] At that dinner, while introducing Jones, Willie Brown stated "Let me present to you what you should see every day when you look in the mirror in the early morning hours.... Let me present to you a combination of Martin King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein... Chairman Mao."[49] Harvey Milk, who spoke at political rallies at the Temple,[50] wrote to Jones after a visit to the Temple: "Rev Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave."[51][52]

In his San Francisco Temple apartment, Jones hosted San Francisco radical political figures such as Angela Davis for discussions.[53] He spoke with friend and San Francisco Sun-Reporter publisher Dr. Carlton Goodlett about Jones' remorse regarding not being able to travel to socialist countries such as People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union, speculating that he could be Chief Dairyman of the Soviet Union.[54] After his criticisms caused increased tensions with the Nation of Islam, Jones spoke at a huge rally healing the rift between the two groups in the Los Angeles Convention Center attended by many of Jones' closest political acquaintances.[55]

While Jones forged media alliances with key columnists and others at the San Francisco Chronicle and other media outlets,[56] the move to San Francisco also brought increasing media scrutiny. After Chronicle reporter Marshall Kilduff encountered resistance to publishing an expos, he brought his story to New West Magazine.[57]...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

DemonRats kill a LOT more people than guns do.
More

Huntsville, AL

#1240 May 2, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>

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dumb off-topic spam.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1241 May 2, 2013
More wrote:
<quoted text>
dumb off-topic spam.
"First Lady Rosalynn Carter also personally met with Jones on multiple occasions, corresponded with him about Cuba, and spoke with him at the grand opening of the San Francisco DEMOCRATIC Party Headquarters where Jones garnered louder applause than Mrs. Carter."

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1242 May 3, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".
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{click}

If you don't like the Second Amendment the way it is, GayDavy, why don't you try to change it to your version?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1243 May 3, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
There's some toilets that need scrubbed out with that tongue of yours.
We both know you work the truck stops, GayDavy, if you find them dirty, reach around and pull the brush out of your azz and give them a swirl.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1244 May 3, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Learn how to use a dictionary--bonehead:
You are the kind of coward that draws peepees in library books and scrawls dirty pictures in public restrooms, Pinocchio.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1245 May 3, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
< The NRA has no influence on enforcement agencies, prosecutors, or judges.
Law enforcement agencies, prosecutors, and judges do not create laws.

Congress create laws.

The NRA spends millions of dollars on Congress.

Of course, with the filibuster, they only have to spend money on a minority.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1246 May 3, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
What about the people who were murdered due to the 5 or 10 day waiting periods preventing them from arming and protecting themselves?
What about the women who are alive today because of the waiting period?

Of course, today, the waiting period can be the time it takes for the gun seller to get back from the cash register with your change.
Source

United States

#1247 May 3, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Ashamed if your source?
was provided earlier in the day, bonehead.

Grasping

United States

#1248 May 3, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>

What about the people who were murdered due to the 5 or 10 day waiting periods
at straws.

Bottom line is that the NRA doesn't really want enforcement, restrictions and is in the business of hyping sales by promoting paranoia and hiding behind a constitutional amendment that has nothing to do with the situation today.
Responsibility

Redwood City, CA

#1249 May 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the women who are alive today because of the waiting period?Of course, today, the waiting period can be the time it takes for the gun seller to get back from the cash register with your change.
Do the gun sellers give change? LOLL

As long as the Party of Heck No, Party of Hell No and the Party of Damn NO continue "not to be seen helping", politics from the GOPs will continue to be dirty and obstructionist, as per stated by Toomey, a republicant:

"In the end it didnt pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it, Toomey admitted on Tuesday in an interview with Digital First Media editors,
spocko

Oakland, CA

#1250 May 3, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! You just can't help yourself can you?
LOL ... well thanks for that well prepared and highly informative post - ye moron!
spocko

Oakland, CA

#1251 May 3, 2013
Grasping wrote:
<quoted text>
at straws.
Bottom line is that the NRA doesn't really want enforcement, restrictions and is in the business of hyping sales by promoting paranoia and hiding behind a constitutional amendment that has nothing to do with the situation today.
your guns must be in your hands, on your hips or in your gunsafe no exceptions
It's been proposed years ago by responsible gun owners, it's simple and it's very easy to understand but most importantly it's the single most effective thing we can do! Yet, f-ing loons can't even get behind something as simple and effectual as this - the sorry-ass gunloons have no shame or sense of community just as long as they get to play with guns!

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