Analysis: Democrats' discord undercuts Obama estate tax push

Nov 30, 2012 Full story: Reuters 36

Divisions among Democrats are undermining President Barack Obama's push to raise the U.S. estate tax on inherited wealth, just weeks before the arrival of the "fiscal cliff" could drive the present estate tax rate even higher than Obama proposes.

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“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#25 Nov 30, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>We already know, no matter what the republicans do, Obama will do what he did last time. that he got the Speaker to cave. He will then move the goal post or pull up the football like Lucy always does to Charlie Brown, blame the republicans and then drive on off the cliff.
When you have a voting public that believe that republicans want to repo their vagina's and keep them from killing babies then you have to wonder what they won't believe. Indocrtination works.
If we are going off the cliff anyway and are going to get the blame anyway, lets let Obama drive off the cliff, then when the liberals and children that voted for candy get their taxes raised, they will finally become part of america and have some skin in the game.
A pile of irresponsible, partisan nonsense. Nothing like erecting strawman arguments and then bashing them - certainly takes less effort than dealing in facts!

Something Republicans learned LONG ago...:)
Cat74

Mchenry, IL

#26 Nov 30, 2012
We have to begin electing people who respect, and honor success. Everyone of those Democrats that say disreceptful things about the rich, are rich. They did not inherit their money, nor did they work for it. It came from special interests buying influence. They have no loyalty to America, their loyalty is to the almighty dollar. They ooze greed from every pore.
Patriotic Democrats

AOL

#27 Nov 30, 2012
Please note. There is a huge difference between Democrats and the far Left Progressives like Obama/Pelosi.

Progressives refuse to do anything meaningful about our extinction level Deficit because Progressives identify more as Sperm or Egg Donors than caring American parents.

"Progressives" don't feel any obligation to leave anything but debt and misery to their children and ours.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#28 Nov 30, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
Increase all taxation of the wealthy. Wealthy Dems need to accept and endorse this, not get in the way.
We must stop the irresponsible Teabaggers and GOPers from driving this country over a fiscal cliff, no matter what it takes.
No matter what.
What are you going to do after taxing the rich, which will last 8 day of america's spending. You are stupid.
Yeah

Columbus, GA

#30 Dec 2, 2012
Patriotic Democrats wrote:
Please note. There is a huge difference between Democrats and the far Left Progressives like Obama/Pelosi.
Progressives refuse to do anything meaningful about our extinction level Deficit because Progressives identify more as Sperm or Egg Donors than caring American parents.
"Progressives" don't feel any obligation to leave anything but debt and misery to their children and ours.
Yeah, I am a lifelong Democrat but I do not understand Obama and what he is doing.
I figured he'd get his act together after the election but what are we doing? He wants to raise taxes, fine, but but nothing significant on spending cuts? He want the republicans to come up with the cuts? Lead President Obama, LEAD! Quit playing political games!
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#31 Dec 3, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I am a lifelong Democrat but I do not understand Obama and what he is doing.
I figured he'd get his act together after the election but what are we doing? He wants to raise taxes, fine, but but nothing significant on spending cuts? He want the republicans to come up with the cuts? Lead President Obama, LEAD! Quit playing political games!
It is part psychological, Obama is quite the narcissist and as such does not like to loose or compromise how dare someone suggest anything different than what he wants. But more importantly he has this deep seated desire to punish the rich for some reason even if it spites him. He even admitted it one time on tv when someone called him on changing the capital gains tax rate. They pointed out that when you do that you change investment behavior, you have a higher tax rate but it does not bring in the money like you would think. He explained that if it did not work that is not the point, it is about fairness.

Perhaps that guy who did the movie is right, Obama is striking out at the rich as a way of showing his father up who wanted to strike out at colonialism but never was effective at it.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#32 Dec 3, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>What are you going to do after taxing the rich, which will last 8 day of america's spending. You are stupid.
You don't care what I'm "going to do," so why ask? You just want to call names, angry little boy.

Go play. Adults are talking here.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#33 Dec 3, 2012
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
It is part psychological, Obama is quite the narcissist and as such does not like to loose or compromise how dare someone suggest anything different than what he wants. But more importantly he has this deep seated desire to punish the rich for some reason even if it spites him. He even admitted it one time on tv when someone called him on changing the capital gains tax rate. They pointed out that when you do that you change investment behavior, you have a higher tax rate but it does not bring in the money like you would think. He explained that if it did not work that is not the point, it is about fairness.
Perhaps that guy who did the movie is right, Obama is striking out at the rich as a way of showing his father up who wanted to strike out at colonialism but never was effective at it.
Or perhaps you just hate him for being black, a Dem, or a liberal...or all three.

Who knows? Your post was gibberish, in any event.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#34 Dec 3, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
We have to begin electing people who respect, and honor success. Everyone of those Democrats that say disreceptful things about the rich, are rich. They did not inherit their money, nor did they work for it. It came from special interests buying influence. They have no loyalty to America, their loyalty is to the almighty dollar. They ooze greed from every pore.
LOL!

One minute you're complaining about Dems "disrespecting the rich," then you yourself disrespect those rich Dems who worry you so much.

NO one buys more influence than big corporations, and the GOP has ALWAYS been their party. Get over it.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#36 Dec 3, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is in a pickle. He is playing chicken in a Volt and he doesnít have any juice. If the Republicans walk because Obama will not offer cuts, then the cliff is what Obama wants and what his voters get. When the tax cuts expire, all of Obama's voter base will get a tax increase. I can hear the squeals and the gnashing of teeth already. Let's go people, call your congressman and tell them to get behind the bus and push this clown and his stupidity off the cliff. Maybe his arrogance will go with him.
The ONLY ethnic group where Romney lead was white men. "Republicans have won the white vote in every presidential election since 1964, and that continued Tuesday with Romney beating Obama by 20 points, 59 percent to 39 percent, according to exit polls. Obama won 80 percent of the minority vote, which, besides Latinos, included African Americans, 13 percent of turnout, the same as 2008, and Asian-Americans, who were 3 percent of the vote, up a point from the last election. President Barack Obama on Tuesday won a whopping 71% of the Latino vote, up from 67% in 2008. By contrast, John Kerry only managed to get about 53% of the Latino vote in 2004 when he lost in his bid to unseat President George W. Bush, according to publicly available exit polls. In Colorado, he captured three-quarters of Hispanic voters, up from 61 percent in 2008. He also improved his Hispanic performance in Florida, a result that included dominance of the heavily Puerto Rican swing precincts around Orlando and the election of a Cuban American Democrat to Congress, symbolizing the end of the GOPís decades-long lock on that community. In 2012, the share of the Latino vote rose to a record high 10%, a number thatís doubled in the past 16 years. President Obama won about 8.4 million Latino votes, using a rough calculation based on exit-poll data. Romney captured no more than 3.44 million votes. In Iowa and New Hampshire, states without big minority populations, Obama won by gaining the support of nearly six in 10 women. Obama won 71% of the Asian-American vote. From the exit polls, President Obamaís support from men slipped a few points from 49% four years ago, but women supported the president over Romney by 55% to 44%."
Rob Johnston

AOL

#37 Dec 3, 2012
The die was cast on Nov 6th. We all must cower in the shadows and accept our fate. America is only Obama Nation now.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#38 Dec 3, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't care what I'm "going to do," so why ask? You just want to call names, angry little boy.
Go play. Adults are talking here.
Diversion noted. Are you going to answer the question or just continue the hate speech.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#39 Dec 3, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!
One minute you're complaining about Dems "disrespecting the rich," then you yourself disrespect those rich Dems who worry you so much.
NO one buys more influence than big corporations, and the GOP has ALWAYS been their party. Get over it.
Generalizations you can't prove just make your case weaker.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#40 Dec 3, 2012
Ratliff wrote:
<quoted text>
The ONLY ethnic group where Romney lead was white men. "Republicans have won the white vote in every presidential election since 1964, and that continued Tuesday with Romney beating Obama by 20 points, 59 percent to 39 percent, according to exit polls. Obama won 80 percent of the minority vote, which, besides Latinos, included African Americans, 13 percent of turnout, the same as 2008, and Asian-Americans, who were 3 percent of the vote, up a point from the last election. President Barack Obama on Tuesday won a whopping 71% of the Latino vote, up from 67% in 2008. By contrast, John Kerry only managed to get about 53% of the Latino vote in 2004 when he lost in his bid to unseat President George W. Bush, according to publicly available exit polls. In Colorado, he captured three-quarters of Hispanic voters, up from 61 percent in 2008. He also improved his Hispanic performance in Florida, a result that included dominance of the heavily Puerto Rican swing precincts around Orlando and the election of a Cuban American Democrat to Congress, symbolizing the end of the GOPís decades-long lock on that community. In 2012, the share of the Latino vote rose to a record high 10%, a number thatís doubled in the past 16 years. President Obama won about 8.4 million Latino votes, using a rough calculation based on exit-poll data. Romney captured no more than 3.44 million votes. In Iowa and New Hampshire, states without big minority populations, Obama won by gaining the support of nearly six in 10 women. Obama won 71% of the Asian-American vote. From the exit polls, President Obamaís support from men slipped a few points from 49% four years ago, but women supported the president over Romney by 55% to 44%."
Yes, his numbers are so great his approval is already falling, even before he is sworn in again.
conservative crapola

Whitehall, PA

#41 Dec 3, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>
Citing trashmussen, again, lejimfraud? Post those rugby numbers for ol' time sake.

hahahahahahahahaha
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#42 Dec 3, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Or perhaps you just hate him for being black, a Dem, or a liberal...or all three.
Who knows? Your post was gibberish, in any event.
It did not make sense because you did not see the movie.

Don't confuse my defense of capitalism for defending the rich.

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