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Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term

There are 669 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 3, 2013, titled Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term. In it, CBS News reports that:

Not so, says the Massachusetts program's architect, former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., who challenged Mr. Obama for the presidency in 2012.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#540 Dec 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Settle down, bobblehead, you have only spewed insults and nothing more. Indy has produced some rather interesting information which you have been unable to comprehend. He made a comparison with Japan and the United States. He used the term welfare state and you thought he was saying Japan didn't have welfare. Honestly, YOU are the one who continues to look foolish beyond words.
I think it is rather intriguing the way Japan discourages govt reliance which is something the US should have considered long ago. The 'welfare states' are dropping like flies....look at Europe. Look at us. This country is on the brink of bankruptcy and yet we want to take on historical amounts of more debt? Speaking of stupid.......
Indy doesn't even understand what he cuts and pastes. that has been proven over and over again by numerous posters.

he is great at copying others words, that is all.

yeah, ummm. several of the "welfare' states in Europe have less debt than the US, a better economy, better educated and healthier citizenry. you might want to learn what you are talking about before you post...repeating media soundbytes you do not understand make one look like a fool.
LOLOLOL

Webster, MA

#542 Dec 9, 2013
Its always a sign of defeat when one person throws facts and proof out the window in exchange for name calling and personal insults.

I guess that puts woodtick57 on the same list as the rest of the frustrated trolls on this site who cant have a discussion without resorting to 2nd grade insults. Why is that it seems like its always Democrat/progressives who are the first to go off topic and start with the immature name calling? Embarrassing really.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#543 Dec 9, 2013
LOLOLOL wrote:
Its always a sign of defeat when one person throws facts and proof out the window in exchange for name calling and personal insults.
I guess that puts woodtick57 on the same list as the rest of the frustrated trolls on this site who cant have a discussion without resorting to 2nd grade insults. Why is that it seems like its always Democrat/progressives who are the first to go off topic and start with the immature name calling? Embarrassing really.
yet i am not a democrat or progressive. i did not start the name calling, i just point out when people can't dceal with the facts...

. can you counter any of them? why not?
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#544 Dec 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Indy doesn't even understand what he cuts and pastes. that has been proven over and over again by numerous posters.
he is great at copying others words, that is all.
yeah, ummm. several of the "welfare' states in Europe have less debt than the US, a better economy, better educated and healthier citizenry. you might want to learn what you are talking about before you post...repeating media soundbytes you do not understand make one look like a fool.
Why don't YOU support your comments before you shoot off your ignorance for all to laugh at? So before you start criticizing what others are saying.....you may want to bring something to the table with some substance. The fact you haven't, is further proof you are dumber than dirt.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#545 Dec 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet i am not a democrat or progressive. i did not start the name calling, i just point out when people can't dceal with the facts...
. can you counter any of them? why not?
Why do you ask everyone else to deliver what you can not?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#546 Dec 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you ask everyone else to deliver what you can not?
what is it you think i cannot deliver?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#547 Dec 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't YOU support your comments before you shoot off your ignorance for all to laugh at? So before you start criticizing what others are saying.....you may want to bring something to the table with some substance. The fact you haven't, is further proof you are dumber than dirt.
sure i have. waht have you brought?

Indy attempted to make the point that welfare systems destroy countries, and i proved him wrong. what have you added beside making an ass out of yourself?

Since: Aug 11

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#548 Dec 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, you ae confirming you are an idiot...not that we needed such confirmation...
keep trying. why is it you keep failing at this simple task?
no you are confirming you are an Idiot and you proved that with a simple post of yours again which is why you are dependent on the Federal Government's Welfare System to provide for you and you failed miserably supporting yourself and without Welfare you are done and you are one of the many that doesn't want to see the US become a successful country where people provide for themselves which you proved that along time ago.

Since: Aug 11

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#549 Dec 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Settle down, bobblehead, you have only spewed insults and nothing more. Indy has produced some rather interesting information which you have been unable to comprehend. He made a comparison with Japan and the United States. He used the term welfare state and you thought he was saying Japan didn't have welfare. Honestly, YOU are the one who continues to look foolish beyond words.
I think it is rather intriguing the way Japan discourages govt reliance which is something the US should have considered long ago. The 'welfare states' are dropping like flies....look at Europe. Look at us. This country is on the brink of bankruptcy and yet we want to take on historical amounts of more debt? Speaking of stupid.......
Exactly

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#550 Dec 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Indy doesn't even understand what he cuts and pastes. that has been proven over and over again by numerous posters.
he is great at copying others words, that is all.
yeah, ummm. several of the "welfare' states in Europe have less debt than the US, a better economy, better educated and healthier citizenry. you might want to learn what you are talking about before you post...repeating media soundbytes you do not understand make one look like a fool.
Woodtick57 one thing that you have proved over and over again is that you are dependent on the US Federal Government Welfare System to provide for you and without the Welfare State you would not survive in the real world which most liberals would not without the US Federal Government and the proof is you keep repeating the same Liberal Nonsense over and over in your post which proves you are dependent on others Wealth & Work which is why Liberalism is in trouble and taking the US down Economically because it can't create wealth it only consumes wealth which has been proven with the US Federal Deficit. If you want proof look at Detroit, MI which failed because of Liberalism and years of Liberal Policies.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#551 Dec 9, 2013
LOLOLOL wrote:
Its always a sign of defeat when one person throws facts and proof out the window in exchange for name calling and personal insults.
I guess that puts woodtick57 on the same list as the rest of the frustrated trolls on this site who cant have a discussion without resorting to 2nd grade insults. Why is that it seems like its always Democrat/progressives who are the first to go off topic and start with the immature name calling? Embarrassing really.
Exactly and you got woodtick57 figured out.

Since: Aug 11

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#552 Dec 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what is it you think i cannot deliver?
I would start with Commonsense.

Since: Aug 11

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#553 Dec 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>sure i have. waht have you brought?
Indy attempted to make the point that welfare systems destroy countries, and i proved him wrong. what have you added beside making an ass out of yourself?
Welfare does destroy Countries just look at Europe especially Greece which you prove here that Liberals have short memories and Greece is still in a mess.

Europe’s Crisis and the Welfare State: Lessons for the United States

Europe has long been the model of the modern welfare state, with many countries providing “cradle-to-grave” protection against the vicissitudes of life by publicly funding housing, sustenance, health care, pensions, unemployment insurance, sick leave, child care, and a host of other benefits. But the economic crisis that started in Greece and now pours through Europe has painfully revealed the true nature of the welfare state—it is unaffordable, stifles economic growth, and has countries drowning in debt.

http://www.cato.org/events/europes-crisis-wel...

Greece has lost more than one-fifth of its pre-crisis economy

By Matt Phillip

December 9, 2013

A report from the Hellenic Statistical Authority today showed the country’s economy continued to shrink in the third quarter, with economic output down just shy of 3%. If there’s any silver lining to be found, at least the economy isn’t shrinking at quite the terrifying pace of just a few quarters back.(During the first quarter the economy shrank by 5.5%.)

http://qz.com/155551/greece-has-lost-more-tha...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#554 Dec 10, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Woodtick57 one thing that you have proved over and over again is that you are dependent on the US Federal Government Welfare System to provide for you and without the Welfare State you would not survive in the real world which most liberals would not without the US Federal Government and the proof is you keep repeating the same Liberal Nonsense over and over in your post which proves you are dependent on others Wealth & Work which is why Liberalism is in trouble and taking the US down Economically because it can't create wealth it only consumes wealth which has been proven with the US Federal Deficit. If you want proof look at Detroit, MI which failed because of Liberalism and years of Liberal Policies.
still lying and still can't find that elusive country that succeeds without a welfare system?

why not? why lie?

seems you are stuck having to admit you were wrong or keep lying...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#555 Dec 10, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Welfare does destroy Countries just look at Europe especially Greece which you prove here that Liberals have short memories and Greece is still in a mess.
Europe’s Crisis and the Welfare State: Lessons for the United States
Europe has long been the model of the modern welfare state, with many countries providing “cradle-to-grave” protection against the vicissitudes of life by publicly funding housing, sustenance, health care, pensions, unemployment insurance, sick leave, child care, and a host of other benefits. But the economic crisis that started in Greece and now pours through Europe has painfully revealed the true nature of the welfare state—it is unaffordable, stifles economic growth, and has countries drowning in debt.
http://www.cato.org/events/europes-crisis-wel...
Greece has lost more than one-fifth of its pre-crisis economy
By Matt Phillip
December 9, 2013
A report from the Hellenic Statistical Authority today showed the country’s economy continued to shrink in the third quarter, with economic output down just shy of 3%. If there’s any silver lining to be found, at least the economy isn’t shrinking at quite the terrifying pace of just a few quarters back.(During the first quarter the economy shrank by 5.5%.)
http://qz.com/155551/greece-has-lost-more-tha...
why just look at greece? how bout the very successful countries of europe that have larger welfare systems than the US and have less debt, better educated and healthier citizens and a better economy...

why did you leave those out?

outright dishonesty?

sorry, indy you just cannot prove your thesis, as the real world is in direct conflict with it...as usual with yoru thinking...
spOko

Oakland, CA

#556 Dec 10, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Brainless Leftwingnutz Moron you need to be working for Walmart since you are dependent on the Federal Government to provide for you and you should loose all rights.
Huh?
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#557 Dec 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what is it you think i cannot deliver?
Facts. Truth.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#558 Dec 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet i am not a democrat or progressive. i did not start the name calling, i just point out when people can't dceal with the facts...
. can you counter any of them? why not?
Liar. You can't counter an argument with information only insults and name calling. This kind of bigotry is not only immature, it's offensive.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#559 Dec 11, 2013
Your claim was Japan did not have a Welfare System...... Here in the post below you are now demonstrating how off base your initial allegation was.

Who do you think reconstructed Japan and it's social and economic infrastructure after the Bombing of Hiroshima?

You've never been to Japan, don't know anyone from Japan and nothing about Japan.... you were talking to hear yourself say something not true or intelligent.

There is no civilized society in the world that doesn't have a system of financial support for their most vulnerable citizens.
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Welfare in Japan
Social welfare, assistance for the ill or otherwise disabled and for the old, has long been provided in Japan by both the government and private companies. Beginning in the 1920s, the government enacted a series of welfare programs, based mainly on European models, to provide medical care and financial support. During the postwar period, a comprehensive system of social security was gradually established. Government expenditures for all forms of social welfare increased from 6% of the national income in the early 1970s, to 18% in 1989. The mixture of public and private funding have created complex pension and insurance systems. But a much older tradition calls for support within the family and the local community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_in_Japan

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#560 Dec 11, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. You can't counter an argument with information only insults and name calling. This kind of bigotry is not only immature, it's offensive.
yet i clearly have right here on these very pages!

who's the liar?

don't worry, incredulous, no one takes any of your posts seriously, as you never have anything of worth to say.

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