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Georgia: Chambliss and Norquist Fight Over Tax Pledge

There are 226 comments on the Roll Call story from Nov 26, 2012, titled Georgia: Chambliss and Norquist Fight Over Tax Pledge. In it, Roll Call reports that:

Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, who faces a likely primary challenge in 2014, said last week he could abandon the Grover Norquist-backed Taxpayer Protection Pledge he signed if it meant moving the country forward.

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Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#169 Dec 6, 2012
Actually, the Dept of Education appears flawed because over the years, the Republicans have stead-fast been against funding the Department of Education, and the results are what they are in world competition.

Some ideas and theories in dissent to the Republicans concepts differ only because it's evidence there no group think taking place.

Without it being broadcast on Fox or one of the other conservative network outlets very few supporters on the right can construct a logical political though.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Then you lefties better get your talking points straight, because Barefoot and a few others appear to have gone off the reservation.
Or is it you who has done so?
No matter. The entire Federal level Department of Education has resulted in a decrease in learning standards, and successive generations of less educated Americans.
It serves no purpose whatsoever, and should be eliminated entirely.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/10/28/...
http://www.ibtimes.com/2012-election-some-rep...

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#170 Dec 6, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Then you lefties better get your talking points straight, because Barefoot and a few others appear to have gone off the reservation.
Yeah, it seems that Barefoot and a few others have just slapped the snot out of you every time you put your head up and posted that clearly unending stream of lies.

I understand with the draft dodger losing, you got nothing left to do but whine.

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#171 Dec 6, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
No matter. The entire Federal level Department of Education has resulted in a decrease in learning standards..
such as this, maybe it is part of your quota, you take a breath and you are required to post two lies, clearly: you tea baggers have your standards.

They started with the Obama fake birth certificate.

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#172 Dec 7, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Yeah, it seems that Barefoot and a few others have just slapped the snot out of you every time you put your head up and posted that clearly unending stream of lies.
I understand with the draft dodger losing, you got nothing left to do but whine.
Sorry, but you seriously overestimate your affect upon me. I'm right, you are wrong, end of story.

However, I suggest that you and Eric and your lefty cohorts get your stories straight so that you can present a coherent and effective argument.

You say the Department of Education was created to end school segregation, Eric says it was not.

One of you is wrong, or one of you is simply lying. Which is it?

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#173 Dec 7, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Actually, the Dept of Education appears flawed because over the years, the Republicans have stead-fast been against funding the Department of Education, and the results are what they are in world competition.
Some ideas and theories in dissent to the Republicans concepts differ only because it's evidence there no group think taking place.
Without it being broadcast on Fox or one of the other conservative network outlets very few supporters on the right can construct a logical political though.
<quoted text>
There you go lying again, Eric. The fact is, the budget for the Department of Education, despite being only 30 years old, has grown to the third largest of any federal program, and grew every year under George W. Bush, whether Republicans OR Democrats controlled congress:

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010...

At the same time, grades have fallen, illiteracy is up, the drop-out rate continues to escalate, and we "graduate" more and more kids who cannot read or write.

In fact, one of the things educators, including teachers unions, are advocating these day is to QUIT teaching writing:

http://www.parentdish.com/2011/01/21/cursive-...

As a result, expect the U.S. to continue lagging behind other nations (incidentally, nations with much smaller education budgets, per capita). Perhaps we will even fall further behind.

How much money do you suggest we throw at a failed system, Eric?

http://www.heritage.org/research/education-no...

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#174 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Sorry, but you seriously overestimate your affect upon me. I'm right, you are wrong, end of story.
stomp your feet to complete the effect, darling:

~stomp stomp stomp~

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#175 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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How much money do you suggest we throw at a failed system, Eric?
http://www.heritage.org
Oh... Heritage foundation... gosh... they are so well-known for their unbiased approach to American politics... everything they post... must be factual, eh?

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#176 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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There you go lying again, Eric. The fact is, the budget for the Department of Education, despite being only 30 years old, has grown to the third largest of any federal program, and grew every year under George W. Bush, whether Republicans OR Democrats controlled congress:
Gosh... which party is continuing the fight to defund or eliminate the department.

Do you want to go back to Ronald Reagan and work your way forward with the presidential candidates that called for or worked to eliminate the department?

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#177 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
At the same time, grades have fallen, illiteracy is up, the drop-out rate continues to escalate, and we "graduate" more and more kids who cannot read or write.
(quote)

CIA Factbook

In 1993, the US Central Intelligence Agency's World Factbook published that the United States had a 97.9% literacy rate; and 99.99% in 2008.
fatbacks x

Portland, OR

#178 Dec 7, 2012
Tax the churches!~ Problem solved.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#179 Dec 7, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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such as this, maybe it is part of your quota, you take a breath and you are required to post two lies, clearly: you tea baggers have your standards.
They started with the Obama fake birth certificate.
What was produced was a COLB, not a birth certificate.

au contraire

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#180 Dec 7, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Oh... Heritage foundation... gosh... they are so well-known for their unbiased approach to American politics... everything they post... must be factual, eh?
True, glad you finally got off the Mr. Ed crap.

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#181 Dec 7, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>What was produced was
even palin laughs at birthers

au contraire

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#182 Dec 7, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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even palin laughs at birthers
She should, Hillary was the original Birther. Then came the fake COLB that gave us more laughs and grins.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#183 Dec 7, 2012
the 30 years since the Department was formed, you've had Reagan for 8 years, GWH Bush for 4 years, and Disaster Jr for 8 More years, during that time the House of Representative was Republican for 12 years straight and the best they could do for education was NCLB and no funding.

20 Year under Republican Presidents, and 12 Years under Republican rule in the House, since Carter devised the Dept of Education and the Republicans did nothing to sufficiently fund Education in America, and you blame Liberals?

This is common with Republicans, they duck accountability for endless disaster and mismanagement which takes place under their rule.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go lying again, Eric. The fact is, the budget for the Department of Education, despite being only 30 years old, has grown to the third largest of any federal program, and grew every year under George W. Bush, whether Republicans OR Democrats controlled congress:
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010...
At the same time, grades have fallen, illiteracy is up, the drop-out rate continues to escalate, and we "graduate" more and more kids who cannot read or write.
In fact, one of the things educators, including teachers unions, are advocating these day is to QUIT teaching writing:
http://www.parentdish.com/2011/01/21/cursive-...
As a result, expect the U.S. to continue lagging behind other nations (incidentally, nations with much smaller education budgets, per capita). Perhaps we will even fall further behind.
How much money do you suggest we throw at a failed system, Eric?
http://www.heritage.org/research/education-no...

“Stop the Brain Rot”

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Take a Looonng Vacation

#184 Dec 7, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>What was produced was a COLB, not a birth certificate.
What was produced last year was a long-form birth certificate, perfectly genuine and disproven by NO ONE.

A COLD is a "certificate of live birth," fool. IOW, a birth certificate. You Birther types just aren't very bright, are you?

“Stop the Brain Rot”

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#185 Dec 7, 2012
Sorry, that was a COLB...Certificate of Live Birth.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

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#186 Dec 7, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>She should, Hillary was the original Birther. Then came the fake COLB that gave us more laughs and grins.
Only imbeciles laugh and grin at things which don't exist.

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#187 Dec 7, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
the 30 years since the Department was formed, you've had Reagan for 8 years, GWH Bush for 4 years, and Disaster Jr for 8 More years, during that time the House of Representative was Republican for 12 years straight and the best they could do for education was NCLB and no funding.
20 Year under Republican Presidents, and 12 Years under Republican rule in the House, since Carter devised the Dept of Education and the Republicans did nothing to sufficiently fund Education in America, and you blame Liberals?
This is common with Republicans, they duck accountability for endless disaster and mismanagement which takes place under their rule.
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Yes, I do blame liberals, for liberals created the Department that unconstitutionally stole the authority over education from the state and local government, where it's belonged all along. And in doing so, liberals have ruined the entire U.S. education system.

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#188 Dec 8, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Yes, I do blame liberals, for liberals created the Department
WAHHHHHHHHHHH! WAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

And 'conservatives' have owned all three branches of government since yet that department is still there. Full credit to the continue existence of the Dept. of Ed goes to RONALD REAGAN, that wacky California liberal, and William BENNETT- another liberal? who ran the department for several years.

But I do like to cloud the issue with facts...

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