Hidden Within the Minimum Wage Dustup: A Pathway for the Democrats

There are 20 comments on the The Wall Street Journal story from Feb 24, 2014, titled Hidden Within the Minimum Wage Dustup: A Pathway for the Democrats. In it, The Wall Street Journal reports that:

The majority of people who earn the minimum wage work in food preparation and other service fields.

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Since: Oct 12

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#1 Feb 24, 2014
Teaparty Housr republican's steer clear of Big Mac's....fearing someone spit in them......
spud

Dallas, PA

#2 Feb 24, 2014
The Republicans and the Wall Street Journal aren't the people you want to ask about the minimum wage. You know what they're going to say before they even open their mouth. I don't see how anyone can possibly live on the $10.10 per hr. that they propose. Raise the minimum wage to $12 an hour and let the employers contribute their share. The taxpayers are getting tired of paying for the government assistance that supplements minimum wage earners, which is nothing more than corporate welfare.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#3 Feb 24, 2014
Oh look, they still fail to show what the relation will do to prices if the min wage is increased.

Wages forced to go up, pricing on goods and services will also go up.

Companies will not sacrifice their bottom line. That will get passed to the customer. And when this happens, the exact thing that increasing min wage was set to do is gone.

It's either that, or, these companies start flooding the unemployment rolls with more people in an attempt to cut back

People really can't be that stupid..........
Rem223

Ivoryton, CT

#4 Feb 24, 2014
Kahoki wrote:
Oh look, they still fail to show what the relation will do to prices if the min wage is increased.
Wages forced to go up, pricing on goods and services will also go up.
Companies will not sacrifice their bottom line. That will get passed to the customer. And when this happens, the exact thing that increasing min wage was set to do is gone.
It's either that, or, these companies start flooding the unemployment rolls with more people in an attempt to cut back
People really can't be that stupid..........
With todays public education to our youth being taught by socialist / progressives People really are that stupid!! One group that will be adversly affected are millions of seniors whose Social Security cost of living adjustments have been cut. Those who count on Social Security as their only source of income this will be a devastating blow as you so truthfully state the cost of living for all will spiral upwards. We`ve already seen our energy costs rise and if obama gets his way it`s going to get much worse along with food costs and other need to survive costs. Under obama our lives are getting worse with every stroke of his pen.
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#5 Feb 24, 2014
I gladly pay taxes to subsidize the working poor. It is the lazy, shiftless, useless lay abouts that I don't want to pay for. They think everything is free. It isn't free when the rest of us are paying for it. I don't know how they can look at themselves in the mirror.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#6 Feb 25, 2014
Kahoki wrote:
Companies will not sacrifice their bottom line......
Sometimes, boy, it is not about you, you, you. Must be a republican!

Btw, Gap Inc said it would raise the hourly pay for its U.S. employees to $9 in June 2014 and $10.10 in 2015. The increased pay will benefit about 65,000 store employees.
spud

Dallas, PA

#7 Feb 25, 2014
Kahoki wrote:
Oh look, they still fail to show what the relation will do to prices if the min wage is increased.
Wages forced to go up, pricing on goods and services will also go up.
Companies will not sacrifice their bottom line. That will get passed to the customer. And when this happens, the exact thing that increasing min wage was set to do is gone.
It's either that, or, these companies start flooding the unemployment rolls with more people in an attempt to cut back
People really can't be that stupid..........
That's a bogus argument. Companies will charge whatever they think customers will pay regardless of what wages they are paying. Between an overinvolved government and the price gouging corporations they worship, we're destroying the greatest market in the world in the name of increasing profit margins. Pay the damn workers.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#8 Feb 25, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>That's a bogus argument. Companies will charge whatever they think customers will pay regardless of what wages they are paying. Between an overinvolved government and the price gouging corporations they worship, we're destroying the greatest market in the world in the name of increasing profit margins. Pay the damn workers.
Not correct.

My family owns a small business, if they push up the minimum wage, we will increase our pricing accordingly. It has nothing to due with what people are willing to pay. That is not how we work.

But if forced, pricing on goods will go up.

Now you have touched on a more serious issue. Manufacturing and jobs. That is what is needed and increasing the minimum wage will not increase jobs and manufacturing. That has been out sourced overseas.

By forcing companies to pay more for (not by choice), those jobs and manufacturing will never return. Not when trying to compete against slave labor in China and Indonesia.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#10 Feb 25, 2014
perfect example: people buy cheap unreliable Wal Mart goods although Sears products are better and a few dollas more. Sears stands behind and warrants their product and Wal Mart won't.
The convenience and reliability is worth the extra money to Sears
spud

Dallas, PA

#11 Feb 25, 2014
Kahoki wrote:
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Not correct.
My family owns a small business, if they push up the minimum wage, we will increase our pricing accordingly. It has nothing to due with what people are willing to pay. That is not how we work.
But if forced, pricing on goods will go up.
Now you have touched on a more serious issue. Manufacturing and jobs. That is what is needed and increasing the minimum wage will not increase jobs and manufacturing. That has been out sourced overseas.
By forcing companies to pay more for (not by choice), those jobs and manufacturing will never return. Not when trying to compete against slave labor in China and Indonesia.
Most businesses are already charging what they feel is the maximum sustainable price. This is the price that will maximize their profit without inciting or insulting their customers. That's pricing. Just because your labor costs go up, it doesn't mean that the customer is going to be willing to pay more for your product. Your profit margin means nothing to the customer. In the market economy, it's your choice to charge whatever you want and it's the customers choice if they want to pay it. Pretty simple. But if you think you can automatically pass every expense along to the customer, you may end up finding shelves full of un purchased goods.

Since: Oct 12

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#12 Feb 25, 2014
foster wrote:
perfect example: people buy cheap unreliable Wal Mart goods although Sears products are better and a few dollas more. Sears stands behind and warrants their product and Wal Mart won't.
The convenience and reliability is worth the extra money to Sears
Then, some of them have the audacity to spout bullsh*t like,.... "When is Obama gonna stop all the outsourcing of jobs?".....
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#13 Feb 25, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Most businesses are already charging what they feel is the maximum sustainable price. This is the price that will maximize their profit without inciting or insulting their customers. That's pricing. Just because your labor costs go up, it doesn't mean that the customer is going to be willing to pay more for your product. Your profit margin means nothing to the customer. In the market economy, it's your choice to charge whatever you want and it's the customers choice if they want to pay it. Pretty simple. But if you think you can automatically pass every expense along to the customer, you may end up finding shelves full of un purchased goods.
It is simple. If the minimum wage increases then employers who hire illegal aliens will profit and honest business owners will be forced out. We have seen this in agriculture, service industries, and construction for years. Unless e-verify and increase penalties for hiring illegal aliens and paying "under the table" are part of a minimum wage bill only criminals will benefit. Decreasing the labor pool through enforcement of immigration laws is the only fair and effective way to increase wages and we know that is not going to happen especially with this administration.
spud

Dallas, PA

#14 Feb 25, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Then, some of them have the audacity to spout bullsh*t like,.... "When is Obama gonna stop all the outsourcing of jobs?".....
Clinton opened that floodgate but neocons were pushing for free trade long before NAFTA was signed. I hear Obama chirping in favor of free trade this and that too. All the elitist, establishment politicians from both sides seem to be under control of the cheap labor multinationals. I'll donate to any politician who will fight against free trade and open borders.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#15 Feb 25, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Then, some of them have the audacity to spout bullsh*t like,.... "When is Obama gonna stop all the outsourcing of jobs?".....
How is that bull? Obama has done nothing to stop the outsourcing of jobs and that is not BS. While he is not solely responsible for outsourcing just as he is not solely responsible for the 6 years of recession and record unemployment he has also done nothing to reverse the situation and he has done a lot to prolong and make it worse. I do not blame Obama for all of the issues this country faces but I do blame him for making things worse while trying to shift the blame to others.
Obama is the president and the Democrats are in power so that makes them and those that back them responsible for the situation this country is in. Just as Bush and the Republicans were responsible when they were in power.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
spud

Dallas, PA

#16 Feb 25, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
How is that bull? Obama has done nothing to stop the outsourcing of jobs and that is not BS. While he is not solely responsible for outsourcing just as he is not solely responsible for the 6 years of recession and record unemployment he has also done nothing to reverse the situation and he has done a lot to prolong and make it worse. I do not blame Obama for all of the issues this country faces but I do blame him for making things worse while trying to shift the blame to others.
Obama is the president and the Democrats are in power so that makes them and those that back them responsible for the situation this country is in. Just as Bush and the Republicans were responsible when they were in power.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
Looks like we did get fooled again.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#17 Feb 25, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Looks like we did get fooled again.
That is what gets to me about the Obama cult. All I get back from Obama/amnesty posters and those I know who are Obama supporters is how bad Republicans are. Yet the moment you bring up Obama's lies and failures it is as if I am committing blasphemy. On the national and state level there is no moral difference between Republicans and Democrats. The only difference is who is financially backing them and what the agenda of their backers are. In the case of who is financially backing them, often it is the same groups/people. In the case of illegal immigration it when you look at the organizations fighting for amnesty and where their money comes from it is obvious that those investing in amnesty and the virtual elimination of immigration laws.
The amazing part is that those who are profiting from the exploitation of not only illegal aliens American workers as well have managed to get illegal aliens, bleeding hearts and the poor to so strongly support policies and laws that will only exploit them more.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Feb 25, 2014
If you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen. Spoken by a man that has never worked in a job that required a profit to survive. Never had to make a payroll on Friday.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#19 Feb 25, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what gets to me about the Obama cult. All I get back from Obama/amnesty posters and those I know who are Obama supporters is how bad Republicans are. Yet the moment you bring up Obama's lies and failures it is as if I am committing blasphemy. On the national and state level there is no moral difference between Republicans and Democrats. The only difference is who is financially backing them and what the agenda of their backers are. In the case of who is financially backing them, often it is the same groups/people. In the case of illegal immigration it when you look at the organizations fighting for amnesty and where their money comes from it is obvious that those investing in amnesty and the virtual elimination of immigration laws.
The amazing part is that those who are profiting from the exploitation of not only illegal aliens American workers as well have managed to get illegal aliens, bleeding hearts and the poor to so strongly support policies and laws that will only exploit them more.
Looks like I am judged nuts and crazy because i do not blindly follow Obama. I take that as a great compliment from an Obamabot. Thank you.

Since: Oct 12

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#20 Feb 25, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Clinton opened that floodgate but neocons were pushing for free trade long before NAFTA was signed. I hear Obama chirping in favor of free trade this and that too. All the elitist, establishment politicians from both sides seem to be under control of the cheap labor multinationals. I'll donate to any politician who will fight against free trade and open borders.
I think now, is too late to get the free-trade genie, back in the bottle....And as i recall, NAFTA was already on the desk, before Clinton was sworn in...i can easily recall the conversation of NAFTA at the debates with Ross Perot.....You're right about all of them selling out to the exact corporate bastards, that shipped the jobs out.....Also, why aren't politician's standing up againest Comcast acquiring Time-Warner....making it the cable-broadcast monopoly.....that's scarier than AT&T ever was.....
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#21 Feb 25, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> I think now, is too late to get the free-trade genie, back in the bottle....And as i recall, NAFTA was already on the desk, before Clinton was sworn in...i can easily recall the conversation of NAFTA at the debates with Ross Perot.....You're right about all of them selling out to the exact corporate bastards, that shipped the jobs out.....Also, why aren't politician's standing up againest Comcast acquiring Time-Warner....making it the cable-broadcast monopoly.....that's scarier than AT&T ever was.....
Why did they allow a handful of companies to dominate the broadcast industry? There was a time when there was a strict limit on the number of broadcast and print outlets one entity could own in any geographical area. I don't see either Party opposing the consolidation of media/propaganda in this country. Could it be because they only want one Demopublican source of news?

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