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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#101581 Aug 21, 2012
Dale

Wichita, KS

#101582 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
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The most important of which is the one in which the United States Supreme Court SPECIFICALLY considered the natural-born citizen status of Barack HUSSEIN Obama in its action in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen. RES JUDICATA.
So, know would you tell us, what country was Mr. Obama born in, Canada, Mexico, United States, etc? You know there are a lot of countries in the Americas.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101583 Aug 21, 2012
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business
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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101584 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
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The Democrats have already accused Romney of murdering a woman with cancer, financial felonies, and not filing taxes for ten years -- the last charge delivered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the Senate floor,
on the basis of absolutely "no" evidence whatsoever. <<<--<<
So what? That lends credence to your fantasy?

BTW, Reid did not accuse Romney of not filing tax returns. Not paying and not filing are two very different things.

Accused Romney of murder?

Grow up.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"as a highly placed insider alleges?"
LMAO.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101585 Aug 21, 2012
Steely Dan - Reelin in the Years ('73)
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Dale

Wichita, KS

#101586 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
The most important of which is the one in which the United States Supreme Court SPECIFICALLY considered the natural-born citizen status of Barack HUSSEIN Obama in its action in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen. RES JUDICATA.
There can't be "RES JUDICATA", cert. was denied due to standing, case was not tried.
Your comment hasn't a legal leg to stand-on, just conjecture on your part, and very irrelevant.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101590 Aug 21, 2012
Frank wrote:
You don't know any of that,you were not at the hospital in 1961 and you were not in Indonesia in the 1960's. You were not in the admissions office at Panahou,Occidental or Yale. Maybe some honest person will step forward who is actually willing to tell the truth,but he's not the guy occupying the White House.
EXCELLENT POINT
Frank needs eyewitnesses!
That's why he doesn't believe that Jesus of Nazareth was born of a young women some 2000 years ago, because there was only one eyewitness and he is dead and never wrote anything about the birth.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101591 Aug 21, 2012
Frank wrote:
The Clinton's are not Republicans.
Educated people do not use an apostrophe to denote the plural.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#101593 Aug 21, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>PERHAPS, but the US Constitution only uses Natural Born Citizen, no where will you find Native, therein.
Now Vattel uses the words Native, or Natural, to describe the children born in a country of citizen parents.
Are you saying that the US Federal Courts have been influenced by the "Law of Nations"?
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.

"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).

“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)

How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?

RU on LSD?
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
PERHAPS, but not as used by the United States federal courts when the term is followed by the words -born citizen.

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101594 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
'The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law' as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is
'The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law' as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is
by: Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
Imabozo tried that twisted logic out in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen. RES JUDICATA.
Totally rejected by the only people who count on this issue: the justices of the United States Supreme Court.
You obviously are completely ignorant about Article III (as you are about all the other Articles). Ha Ha Ha Ha -- no education means really stupid and ignorant.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101595 Aug 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey guys, Terri Tunna is even nastier than her normal self. I guess she has been reading the polls and now knows Obama will lose in November. In fact, he will lose by at least 10 points like Jimmy Carter did in 1980!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
My gut feeling is Obama will win. My gut feeling is I will then write that you predicted on this day, August 21, 1012, that you wrote : "Obama will lose in November. In fact, he will lose by at least 10 points like Jimmy Carter". My gut feeling is you will reply "I never wrote that" , my gut feeling is I will write "yes, you did", my gut feeling is you will say "if you're so smart, find it yourself" and my gut feeling is I will,'cuz this time I'm storing it. Page 35354 number Post number 101526. My last gut feeling is that a birther, any birther, will tell me to mind my own business and stay in Canada.
I knew one of you Libtards would bite on that one. The only thing I am 100% positive is before the end of this century, I will be dead!
In a post from the past two days I said Mitt had a 90% chance of winning and a 50% of winning by double digits and I will stand with that prediction.
There is also a 0.01% chance Mitt will be dead before the election in which case he will not be our next president. In recent years we have had two senators killed in aircraft crashes. We have also had one Congresswoman almost killed in an assassination attempt. So anything is possible.
Mel Carnahan 2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Carnahan

Paul Wellstone 2002
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wellstone
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101596 Aug 21, 2012

Constitution of the United States
Preamble Article I Article II Article III Article IV Article V Article VI
Article VII AMENDMENTS

Introduction

Written in 1787, ratified in 1788, and in operation since 1789, the United States Constitution is the world’s longest surviving written charter of government. Its first three words –“We The People”– affirm that the government of the United States exists to serve its citizens. The supremacy of the people through their elected representatives is recognized in Article I, which creates a Congress consisting of a Senate and a House of Representatives. The positioning of Congress at the beginning of the Constitution reaffirms its status as the “First Branch” of the federal government.

The Constitution assigned to Congress responsibility for organizing the executive and judicial branches, raising revenue, declaring war, and making all laws necessary for executing these powers. The president is permitted to veto specific legislative acts, but Congress has the authority to override presidential vetoes by two-thirds majorities of both houses. The Constitution also provides that the Senate advise and consent on key executive and judicial appointments and on the ratification of treaties.

For over two centuries the Constitution has remained in force because its framers successfully separated and balanced governmental powers to safeguard the interests of majority rule and minority rights, of liberty and equality, and of the central and state governments. More a concise statement of national principles than a detailed plan of governmental operation, the Constitution has evolved to meet the changing needs of a modern society profoundly different from the eighteenth-century world in which its creators lived.

This annotated version of the Constitution provides the original text (left-hand column) with commentary about the meaning of the original text and how it has changed since 1789 (right-hand column).

Article I
Section 1 Section 2 Section 3 Section 4 Section 5 Section 6 Section 7
Section 8 Section 9 Section 10

Original Text:ART I Sec. 8 C. 9
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

Explanation:
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.

http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101597 Aug 21, 2012
LRS wrote:
How does any of this matter when all of Obama's documents are forged?
What bearing on his eligibility does it have that ALL HIS DOCUMENTS are false and fraudulent SINCE you cannot cite any Article of the Constitution, any federal statute, any controlling appellate court case, or legal tradition that holds a state-issued birth document or social security card or any other identifying piece of paper has any bearing on one's status as a natural-born American citizen?
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#101599 Aug 21, 2012
Here Are The Lewd Allegations In A Top Official's Suit Against Homeland Security

Suzanne Barr, who was Janet Napolitano's chief of staff for ICE, allegedly moved the entire contents of the offices of three male workers—including their name plates, phones, and computers—into the men's bathroom.

Barr is accused of screaming at a male employee that she wanted his "cock in the back of" her throat, and sending sexual messages from another employee's Blackberry.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-secur...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101600 Aug 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Unemployment rates rose in nine states that are considered battlegrounds in the presidential election. That trend, if it continued, could pose a threat to President Barack Obama's re-election bid in less than three months.
Interestingly, there was higher unemployment at the same point in Reagan's first term than now, and the entire economy was in the tank unlike the present when more wealth has been created than at any comparable time in the entire HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
==
POST-WATERGATE PRESIDENCIES
At Forty-Second Month in Office
Wealth Typical
Creation GDP Creditworthiness Gross $66,000/yr
US Equities (39 mos.) 10-Year Long Bond Inflation Unemply. Tax Rate¹
Obama 110.0% 12.2% 1.40% 2.47% 1.41% 8.3% 15%
Reagan 16.5% 28.0% 13.87%² 13.64%² 4.20% 9.4% 42%

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101601 Aug 21, 2012
Mel's son was a fairly inexperienced pilot and he had a partial instrument failure when the vacuum pump failed, Experienced pilots are proficient at "partial panel" flight and probably would have been able to handle this emergency.
Never get into a plane who's pilot's ego is greater than his skill.
Oh, my plane is a partial glass cockpit in that it does have a six-pack of steam gauges of which two are vacuum powered and the I have an Aspen multi-function electronic display which also has a built-in battery back-up.
I know I am an older pilot and I am not as sharp as I once was so I made sure my plane has back-up instruments. And it also has an ... autopilot!
I was also a hot helicopter pilot in my day and I know I will never be a bush-pilot and have no desire to be one. But my plane is happy on a grass airstrip and I am confident in that area.

Mel Carnahan 2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Carnahan

The twin-engine Cessna airplane piloted by the Governor's son, Randy, crashed on a heavily forested hillside during a rainstorm and foggy conditions near Goldman, Missouri"
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#101602 Aug 21, 2012
Father Of Marine Killed By Afghan Recruits:'My Son Trained Somebody To Murder Him

Read more: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/20...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101605 Aug 21, 2012
NTjr wrote:
"His grants for college , was it for a foreign student or a US student ???"
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, if he was born in America, he committed fraud. But if he was born in Kenya, he is a fraudulent president! Which is it!
Since rube lacked the smarts and guts to even get close to a college, he doesn't know that most colleges have endowed scholarships for students of particular nationalities, e.g., for a Polish student. Sadly, his lack of exposure to true learning and education means that he doesn't understand that "Polish Scholarships" are given to students who were born in the United States as citizens.
Class, never underestimate rube's ignorance on most issues or his total inability to back up anything he says with HARD DATA. How pathetic to have sucked off the taxpayers of this great nation for more than twenty years while accomplishing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. What a hypocritical phony he is.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101606 Aug 21, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.
"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)
How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?
RU on LSD?
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;



Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
==========

WHAT part of THIS do YOU DWIDIOTS and DIPCHITIOTS not UNDERSTAND??????????

Explanation:
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...

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Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101608 Aug 21, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
People like you who type in sentences like a five year old, gag me.
People who were too stupid to gain admission to any college who cannot use the term "like" correctly (it should be "such as you"), make me gag.

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