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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101605 Aug 21, 2012
NTjr wrote:
"His grants for college , was it for a foreign student or a US student ???"
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, if he was born in America, he committed fraud. But if he was born in Kenya, he is a fraudulent president! Which is it!
Since rube lacked the smarts and guts to even get close to a college, he doesn't know that most colleges have endowed scholarships for students of particular nationalities, e.g., for a Polish student. Sadly, his lack of exposure to true learning and education means that he doesn't understand that "Polish Scholarships" are given to students who were born in the United States as citizens.
Class, never underestimate rube's ignorance on most issues or his total inability to back up anything he says with HARD DATA. How pathetic to have sucked off the taxpayers of this great nation for more than twenty years while accomplishing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. What a hypocritical phony he is.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101606 Aug 21, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.
"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)
How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?
RU on LSD?
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;



Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
==========

WHAT part of THIS do YOU DWIDIOTS and DIPCHITIOTS not UNDERSTAND??????????

Explanation:
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101608 Aug 21, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
People like you who type in sentences like a five year old, gag me.
People who were too stupid to gain admission to any college who cannot use the term "like" correctly (it should be "such as you"), make me gag.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101609 Aug 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, there are far more unemployed backs under Obama than there ever was during the Reagan years.
Please back up your statement with HARD DATA (and citation to authoritative sources) at the 42nd month of each presidency. Thank you.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101610 Aug 21, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
I've had to deal with lots of racial slurs growing up,
You misunderstand. When your mother called you a "fat ass dumbo," she was not making a racial slur.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#101611 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =r4sI5DG5sjcXX&feature=rel ated
"Living in a world of make believe."

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Angie Baby (BirfoonLady).

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101612 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
The Lord's Prayer
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever.
What an incredibly uneducated post. The poster takes it upon her/himself to add words to sacred scripture that WERE NEVER SPOKEN by the Lord. How sacrilegious and intellectually dishonest to violate the sanctity of the inspired Word of God! How can anyone take seriously ANYTHING that this infidel says?

"For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen"
The doxology of the prayer is not contained in Luke's version, nor is it present in the earliest manuscripts of Matthew, representative of the Alexandrian text. It is thus absent in the oldest and best manuscripts of Matthew,] and most scholars do not consider it part of the original text of Matthew. Modern translations generally omit it.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord 's_Prayer#.22For_thine_is_the_ kingdom.2C_and_the_power.2C_an d_the_glory.2C_for_ever_and_ev er._Amen.22

This is the ONLY and official English translation of Matthew 6:9-15 as preserved by the church established by Jesus of Nazareth and entrusted by Him for the preservation of sacred scripture and doctrine for all time:
“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test,
but deliver us from the evil one.
If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you.
But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions.
.
Nowhere do the MADE-UP WORDS [apocryphal] of the poster appear in the real Bible – the sacred scripture of Jesus of Nazareth.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101613 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Educated people do not use an apostrophe to denote the plural.
Boy you have really been wound up the past few days. Have you been reading the Gallup polls again?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#101614 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
==========
WHAT part of THIS do YOU DWIDIOTS and DIPCHITIOTS not UNDERSTAND??????????
Explanation:
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...
Being born in the US is not a Piracy or Felony committed on the high Seas or an offense against the Law of Nations.

Sorry, BirfoonLady. RU on LSD?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.
"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)
How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?
RU on LSD?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101615 Aug 21, 2012
Chicago Young Republicans "Call Me Maybe"
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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101616 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Wall Street gains, S&P 500 hits four-year high [1426.63]
... that is a gain of 111% under this administration – during the same period under Reagan the market had barely gained 16% while unemployment was 13.3% higher than it is now and the creditworthiness of the United States had sunk to its lowest level since the Revolutionary War as the entire world recognized that Reagan was the most inept and uneducated American president in history.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt ...
More wealth has been created in the United States during the past 42-months than during any 42-month period in the entire history of the world including under the Babylonian Empire and the Pharaohs of Egypt. It is every patriotic conservative American’s obligation to encourage unemployment of the ignorant and uneducated who lacked the common sense to go to this great nation’s elite Eastern colleges and professional schools, so that low wages can keep corporate profits high and the people who deserve the very best to remain wealthy. As for the riff-raff that are not even worthy to work as grounds crew at our exclusive private country clubs (there are undocumented workers for that) who are unemployed, deep sympathy, but how stupid of you not to earn your wealth the old fashioned true American way: by inheritance. Ha Ha Ha Ha
==
The really stupid "birthers" in this country want a return to the intellectual void of the Reagan years.
====
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
what was the S&P 500 the Fall of 2007? Would you believe "1,565.15"? This is the LONGEST recovery since the Great Depression
POOR rube, he sucked off the taxpayer-funded welfare rolls for so long that he is totally ignorant about Article II of our sacred Constitution.
Your current president did not take office until Jan. 20, 2009 -- more than fifteen (15) months after Oct. 9, 2007.
While 43 was president the bottom fell out of The Market through the end of his term -- costing citizens of the United States 51.9% of their equity wealth in less than 14 months plus the enormous loss of wealth in real estate.
HERE'S HOW STUPID RUBE IS: the Class dares him to identify any American president who has had the equity markets rise SO MUCH (more than 110%) in the first 42 months of their presidency.(Under Ronnie the Market was in slow motion -- barely gaining 16% in 3-1/2 years.)
If rube cannot show that the Market rose more than 110% during the first forty-two months of a presidency, than it is CONFIRMED THAT HE IS A LIAR OF THE HIGHEST ORDER as well as a blood-sucker on the American people. HOW PATHETIC.
Please only use HARD MARKET DATA stating beginning and ending dates for your data. Thank you.
Note the really stupid one has such intense loathing and irrational hatred toward his landslide-elected president, that rube must vilify him by citing the economic statistics BEFORE Obama was even sworn in. HOW INCREDIBLY INTELLECTUAL DISHONEST -- but to be expected from someone who was too stupid and gutless to gain appointment to our great United States Military Academy at West Point.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#101617 Aug 21, 2012
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>So, know would you tell us, what country was Mr. Obama born in, Canada, Mexico, United States, etc? You know there are a lot of countries in the Americas.
The United States of America. Duh!

STATE OF HAWAII
Office of Health Status Monitoring
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, Hawaii 96801
VERIFICATION' OF BIRTH
Recipient of Verification: Ken Bennett, Arizona Secretary of State
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-14.3, I verify the following:

1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii

2. Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II

3. Department of Health File #: 151 61 10641

4. Time of Birth: 7:24 p.m.

5. Name of Hospital: Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital

6. Age of Father: 25

7. Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa

8. Age of Mother: 18

9. Birthplace of Mother: Wichita, Kansas

10. Date of Signature of Parent: 8-7-61

11. Date of Signature of Attendant: 8-8-61

12. Date Accepted by Local Registrar: Aug-8 1961

Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files.

I certify that the information contained
in the vital record on file with the
Department of Health was used to
verify the facts of the vital event.

Alvin T. Onaka, Ph. D.
State Registrar
Date Issued: May 22, 2012
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101618 Aug 21, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Being born in the US is not a Piracy or Felony committed on the high Seas or an offense against the Law of Nations.
Sorry, BirfoonLady. RU on LSD?
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas,<<<--<< and Offences against the Law of Nations;



Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.

==========

Do YOU not SEE a comma THERE
PLUS the word AND!

Just like in the DEATH of a president YOU were talking ABOUT.....you IDIOT!

AMENDMENT XX
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term,

or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify,
(obama FAILED)(EXCEPT by FRAUD)
then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101619 Aug 21, 2012
101,519
Terri Tanna wrote:
"As she quotes the man who totally hated and despised the Constitution -- the one he had NO ROLE WHATSOEVER in writing it and wasn't even in the United States when it was being written."
====
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, Thomas Jefferson had no roll [SIC]? He was the major figure in the Constitution of Virginia of 1776 of which our Constitution was based!
Can't comment on whether he ate donuts or not.
Correct. Jefferson was bitterly opposed to the United States Constitution that only loosely resembled the VA document.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101620 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"DARE YOU TO PROVE that you accomplished anything during the entire 20+ years that you sucked at the teat of the public welfare rolls for your compensation, your housing, your uniforms, your medical care. If you were a true patriot, you would have been a soldier without ANY compensation including subsequent pension benefits. What a disgusting human being you must be that you couldn't even make it in the private sector as true conservatives do."
====
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Typical nasty troll. You did not make one intellectually honest point.
NOT HONEST? REALLY?
Do you deny that ALL of the following were paid for you by the American taxpayers for 20 or more years:
1) your compensation,
2) your housing,
3) your uniforms, and
4) your medical care?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#101622 Aug 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Mel's son was a fairly inexperienced pilot and he had a partial instrument failure when the vacuum pump failed, Experienced pilots are proficient at "partial panel" flight and probably would have been able to handle this emergency.
Never get into a plane who's pilot's ego is greater than his skill.
Oh, my plane is a partial glass cockpit in that it does have a six-pack of steam gauges of which two are vacuum powered and the I have an Aspen multi-function electronic display which also has a built-in battery back-up.
I know I am an older pilot and I am not as sharp as I once was so I made sure my plane has back-up instruments. And it also has an ... autopilot!
I was also a hot helicopter pilot in my day and I know I will never be a bush-pilot and have no desire to be one. But my plane is happy on a grass airstrip and I am confident in that area.
Mel Carnahan 2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Carnahan
The twin-engine Cessna airplane piloted by the Governor's son, Randy, crashed on a heavily forested hillside during a rainstorm and foggy conditions near Goldman, Missouri"
So what? Does this prove your claim that Romney has more small contributors?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101624 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Jesus responded: "It is written again,'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'" (Matthew 4:7) It may seem pious to say that one is trusting in God for protection, and we all must, but it is tempting God if we do not take the measures that He has laid out for us in the Bible.
What an incredibly ignorant and uneducated reading of Sacred Scripture! Tell the Class the truth: you have ZERO college credits in anything related to Christian scripture.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101625 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
"He who passively
accepts evil
is as much
involved in it
as he who helps
to perpetuate it."
~ Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Another really stupid poster who doesn't know that Dr. King's use of "passively" is in the context of NON-violent protest.
But let's give amerlassie credit: no one is better at distorting quotes taken out of context better than her.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#101626 Aug 21, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Non sequitur. The federal and state courts have used both native and natural born citizens to describe children born in the United States without regard to the nationality of parents. Obviously not influenced by Vattel.
"In McCreery v. Somerville,(1824) 9 Wheat. 354, which concerned the title to land in the State of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that State of an alien who was still living, and who had not been naturalized, were "NATIVE-BORN citizens of the United States;" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 661-662 (1898)(emphasis added).
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the vice-chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen;” In re Look Tin Sing, 21 Fed. Rep. 905, 909 (Circuit Court, D. California. September 29, 1884.)
How can it be that the federal courts were "influenced" by Vattel when the courts have ruled to the contrary in regard to native/natural born citizens born after the adoption of the Constitution?
RU on LSD?
<quoted text>
What do you mean it doesn't follow, please indicate where you can find Native in the Constitution.
As for assumptions in your 1824 case, assumptions does not make law.
You tell me how the courts were influenced by Vattel, I did not say they were. Constitutional Law plainly states who shall be Natural Born Citizen, only those born in the US not subject to any foreign powers.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#101627 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas,<<<--<< and Offences against the Law of Nations;
Every sovereign nation possesses these powers, and Congress has acted under this authority from the beginning.
==========
Do YOU not SEE a comma THERE
PLUS the word AND!
Just like in the DEATH of a president YOU were talking ABOUT.....you IDIOT!
AMENDMENT XX
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term,
or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify,
(obama FAILED)(EXCEPT by FRAUD)
then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_ite...
Huh? RU on LSD? Being born in the US is an offense against the Law of Nations? RU daft?

BTW, BirfoonLady, according to the Electoral College and the United States Congress, the President qualified, and his election was certified, birfoon moaning, whining, and sour grapes, notwithstanding.

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Being born in the US is not a Piracy or Felony committed on the high Seas or an offense against the Law of Nations.
Sorry, BirfoonLady. RU on LSD?

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