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American Lady

Danville, KY

#101514 Aug 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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You may be right, Terri, about Jefferson's wariness of the constitution. If he did write : "It is every Americans' right and obligation to read and interpret the
Constitution for himself", that could be interpreted two ways, one of them a warning, no?
Liberals use Constitutional 'interpretation'...
to marginalize original intent

Liberals have used various means to minimize and marginalize the original intent of the Framers of the U.S. Constitution. A common method is to suggest that the meaning of the Constitution is 'open to interpretation.'

Thus, the Left has convinced a gullible public that ordinary citizens need lawyers educated at Leftwing law schools to tell us what the Constitution means. And, if the Supreme Court is packed with Leftwing revisionists who give little regard to original intent, then the decisions rendered by the court will be a far cry from the philosophy of liberty espoused by the Framers.

Thomas Jefferson said,

"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the

time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested

in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out

of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in

which it was passed."

Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The

Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

In this simple, straightforward statement, Jefferson lays out the ONLY legitimate method of understanding the meaning of the Constitution--go back to the Framers' own words and consider original intent. Every other method is illegitimate, flawed, and highly dangerous.

Jefferson also stated that 'it is every Americans' right and obligation to read and interpret the Constitution for himself.'

The following video, The Liberty Sphere Report for 4/15/2010, delineates this concept more fully and explains the critical ramifications of the courts to place 'precedent' over original intent.

http://www.examiner.com/article/video-liberal...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101515 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Wall Street gains, S&P 500 hits four-year high [1426.63]
... that is a gain of 111% under this administration – during the same period under Reagan the market had barely gained 16% while unemployment was 13.3% higher than it is now and the creditworthiness of the United States had sunk to its lowest level since the Revolutionary War as the entire world recognized that Reagan was the most inept and uneducated American president in history.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt...
More wealth has been created in the United States during the past 42-months than during any 42-month period in the entire history of the world including under the Babylonian Empire and the Pharaohs of Egypt. It is every patriotic conservative American’s obligation to encourage unemployment of the ignorant and uneducated who lacked the common sense to go to this great nation’s elite Eastern colleges and professional schools, so that low wages can keep corporate profits high and the people who deserve the very best to remain wealthy. As for the riff-raff that are not even worthy to work as grounds crew at our exclusive private country clubs (there are undocumented workers for that) who are unemployed, deep sympathy, but how stupid of you not to earn your wealth the old fashioned true American way: by inheritance. Ha Ha Ha Ha
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The really stupid "birthers" in this country want a return to the intellectual void of the Reagan years.
Hey Toosie, what was the S&P 500 the Fall of 2007? Would you believe "1,565.15"? This is the longest recovery since the Great Depression and you give O'Bummer credit? I think the stock market is slowly recovering in spit of Obama and his Progressive agenda.
And I think Investors see the light at the end of this very long tunnel and it ends on Jan. 20, 2013!

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101516 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever.
What an incredibly ignorant uneducated post so characteristic of someone who has never studied sacred scripture at an elite Eastern college at the direction of learned biblical scholars who speak the ancient biblical languages.(This poster is so IGNORANT of English that s/he can't even punctuate simple sentences correctly.)
The poster takes it upon her/himself to add words to sacred scripture that WERE NEVER SPOKEN by the Lord. How sacrilegious and intellectually dishonest to violate the sanctity of the inspired Word of God. How can anyone take seriously ANYTHING that this infidel says?
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"For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen"
The doxology of the prayer is not contained in Luke's version, nor is it present in the earliest manuscripts of Matthew, representative of the Alexandrian text. It is thus absent in the oldest and best manuscripts of Matthew, and most scholars do not consider it part of the original text of Matthew. Modern translations generally omit it.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord 's_Prayer#.22For_thine_is_the_ kingdom.2C_and_the_power.2C_an d_the_glory.2C_for_ever_and_ev er._Amen.22
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The following is the ONLY and official English translation of Matthew 6:9-15 as preserved by the church established by Jesus of Nazareth and entrusted by Him for the preservation of sacred scripture and doctrine for all time:
“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test,
but deliver us from the evil one.
If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you.
But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions.
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Nowhere do the MADE-UP WORDS [apocryphal] of the poster appear in the real Bible – the sacred scripture of Jesus of Nazareth.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101517 Aug 21, 2012
Frank wrote:
The quotes from students at Occidental specifically stated that he went by the name "Barry". The people being interviewed did not know what last name he went by.
How intellectually dishonest. DARE YOU TO PROVE by accepted sources the truth of your post.
DARE YOU TO PROVE that you accomplished anything during the entire 20+ years that you sucked at the teat of the public welfare rolls for your compensation, your housing, your uniforms, your medical care. If you were a true patriot, you would have been a soldier without ANY compensation including subsequent pension benefits. What a disgusting human being you must be that you couldn't even make it in the private sector as true conservatives do.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101518 Aug 21, 2012
One of the components of the cure is to retrieve the philosophy of the Founders and restore Constitutional law in this nation by understanding the concept of 'original intent.'

http://www.examiner.com/article/video-liberal...

Anthony G. Martin

Walrus, you are a perfect example of what's wrong with this country...ignorant, obtuse, deliberately creating a red herring to divert attention away from the point.

Let me spell it out for you. Jefferson said when there is any dispute about the meaning of a phrase in the Constitution, look at the most probable one (that is, the one most likely out of all of the choices), which is, the original intent and spirit in which is was passed. Now, if that isn't clear enough for you, you are simply too dense to get it. I don't know why I even try to have a rational conversation with you. So, I will just stop.

Have a nice day...

;-)

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101519 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
As she quotes the man who totally hated and despised the Constitution -- the one he had NO ROLE WHATSOEVER in writing it and wasn't even in the United States when it was being written.
How ignorant are those who lacked the intellectual wherewithal to be admitted to any college -- even a JUNIOR college -- in an era when EVERY person with any smarts went to college. HOW PATHETIC TO BE SO LACKING IN COMMON SENSE and not having a never-ending party for four or five years.
Oh, Thomas Jefferson had no roll? He was the major figure in the Constitution of Virginia of 1776 of which our Constitution was based!

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101520 Aug 21, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
You may be right, Terri, about Jefferson's wariness of the constitution. If he did write : "It is every Americans' right and obligation to read and interpret the
Constitution for himself", that could be interpreted two ways, one of them a warning, no?
There is no question among learned historians (the very same ones who know that de Vattel was an insignificant non-entity with respect to our sacred Constitution) that Jefferson bitterly opposed the Constitution. That may be one reason he ran rough-shod over it when he was president.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101521 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
How intellectually dishonest. DARE YOU TO PROVE by accepted sources the truth of your post.
DARE YOU TO PROVE that you accomplished anything during the entire 20+ years that you sucked at the teat of the public welfare rolls for your compensation, your housing, your uniforms, your medical care. If you were a true patriot, you would have been a soldier without ANY compensation including subsequent pension benefits. What a disgusting human being you must be that you couldn't even make it in the private sector as true conservatives do.
Typical nasty troll. You did not make one intellectually honest point.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#101522 Aug 21, 2012
American Lady wrote:
In this simple, straightforward statement, Jefferson lays out the ONLY legitimate method of understanding the meaning of the Constitution--go back to the Framers' own words and consider original intent.
How was Jefferson capable of knowing anything about the Constitution when he wasn't even in the United States when the secret, closed door debates were being held. It is typical of your lack of constitutional education that you would quote Jefferson -- the least authoritative person on what the Constitution means. HOW PATHETICALLY IGNORANT.
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BTW, where is the Article and Clause in the Constitution that permits the President of the United States to enter into a contract to purchase vast acreage from a foreign country. Please cite the Article that expressly states that power. Thank you.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101523 Aug 21, 2012
REFERENCES:

Maier, Pauline.‘Ratification: the people debate the Constitution, 1787-1788”(2010) p.11-15

The United States Constitution.(2011). Retrieved from http://www.constitutionday.com/the-constituti...

Constitution facts.com [ca. 2001]. Naperville, IL: Oak Hill Publishing Company. Retrieved from http://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-constitut...

Fascinating facts about the U.S. Constitution [ca. 2011]. Naperville, IL: Oak Hill Publishing Company. Retrieved from http://www.constitutionfacts.com/...

http://www.americansentinel.edu/constitution

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101524 Aug 21, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
How intellectually dishonest. DARE YOU TO PROVE by accepted sources the truth of your post.
DARE YOU TO PROVE that you accomplished anything during the entire 20+ years that you sucked at the teat of the public welfare rolls for your compensation, your housing, your uniforms, your medical care. If you were a true patriot, you would have been a soldier without ANY compensation including subsequent pension benefits. What a disgusting human being you must be that you couldn't even make it in the private sector as true conservatives do.
Typical nasty troll. You did not make one intellectually honest point.

"In the end, however, I’ve found that most debate opponents resort to trying to destroy the character of the person they’re debating by making unsubstantial charges. This works because most audiences are ignorant. They fall for every logical fallacy in the book."

Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/6692/heres-how-y...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101525 Aug 21, 2012
These Are Our Rights: We Must Defend Them

Certainly our Founders were aware of the role of the people which to this day is no different. We are the ultimate guardians of the Constitution and the rights it is meant to preserve just as it is with our consent that our government was formed.

“It is every Americans’ right and obligation to read and interpret the Constitution for himself.”— Thomas Jefferson

“On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”— Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

“[E]very act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”– Alexander Hamiltion

These are our rights. We must defend them or they will be snatched from us.

http://www.the1789project.com/2011/12/these-a...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101526 Aug 21, 2012
Hey guys, Terri Tunna is even nastier than her normal self. I guess she has been reading the polls and now knows Obama will lose in November. In fact, he will lose by at least 10 points like Jimmy Carter did in 1980!

Since: May 10

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#101527 Aug 21, 2012

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#101528 Aug 21, 2012
Fox News banned him for a time when he called Obama "Hitler" so I wonder if they will again?

Country Star Calls Obama 'a Muslim'
By JILIAN FAMA | ABC OTUS News – Mon, Aug 20, 2012

Hank Williams Jr. Tells Crowd Obama Is 'a Muslim' Who 'Hates the Military'
Controversial country star Hank Williams Jr., who caused a stir last year when he compared Barack Obama to Hitler, is at it again.
At the Iowa State Fair, Williams bashed Obama to a crowd saying, "We've got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him!"
To make his anti-Obama message known, Williams recently released a 10-disc album titled "Old School, New Rules." There is no subtlety in the country star's politically charged song lyrics that blatantly boast "Hey Barack, pack your bags, head to Chicago, take your teleprompter with you so you'll know where to go."
'A Game of Thrones' Author Rips on Republicans
http://news.yahoo.com/hank-williams-jr-tells-...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101529 Aug 21, 2012
Suicide ruling doesn't end questions in Ark. case

MEMPHIS, Tenn.(AP)- Hours after police released an autopsy report that ruled the shooting death of a young man in the back of a patrol car a suicide, dozens of the man's supporters and relatives gathered Monday night in Memphis for a candlelight vigil.

The report from the Arkansas state crime lab says Chavis Carter, 21, tested positive for methamphetamine, anti-anxiety medication and other drugs. It ruled his death a suicide and says the muzzle of a handgun he apparently concealed from arresting officers was placed against his right temple when it was fired.

Instead of focusing on the newly released report, some supporters at the vigil were asking more questions.

"How (did) he shoot himself in his right temple and he (was) left-handed? In handcuffs?" one of his friends, Bianca Tipton, asked.

The state crime lab report, released to The Associated Press and other news organizations under a public records request, didn't answer that question.

Instead, the report says Carter's death was ruled a suicide based on autopsy findings and investigative conclusions from the Jonesboro Police Department, which has faced questions from Carter's family and community members about the circumstances surrounding the July 28 death.

"He was cuffed and placed into a police car, where apparently he produced a weapon, and despite being handcuffed, shot himself in the head," the report says.

http://www.wate.com/story/19326549/suicide-ru...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101530 Aug 21, 2012
The big media lie about the US government's purchases of over one billion rounds of anti-personnel ammunition

(NaturalNews) The alternative media scored a huge victory last week with the joint coverage of the U.S. government's purchase of over one billion rounds of anti-personnel "hollow point" ammunition. The ammunition is to be use domestically, not by the military.

Those purchases include:
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Lamestream media tries to downplay ammunition stockpiling by domestic government agencies
Thanks to InfoWars, Drudge, NaturalNews and other alternative news websites, word about these ammo purchases -- which total over 1.4 billion rounds of ammo when you add up all the contracts -- has begun to spread so far and wide that the mainstream media was forced to try to destroy the story.

So now, in a desperate effort to try to diffuse this story -- which is really a story about the U.S. government stockpiling ammo to be used against the American people -- the media is focusing on the Social Security Administration ammo purchase of 174,000 rounds... a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the 1.4 billion rounds of ammo so far acquired by the Department of Homeland Security.

The SSA, it turns out, explains away the 174,000 rounds of ammo it purchased by saying, essentially, "We needed the ammo."

Okay, so wait a second. First of all, since when did the social security administration need hundreds of armed agents with .357 rounds of hollow point ammo running around the country? What exactly are they doing with these guns? Shouldn't they technically be calling local sheriffs if they need assistance from peace officers? I'm pretty sure that when Roosevelt signed the Social Security Act into law in 1935, it didn't say anything about the SSA having "hundreds of armed social security agents running around the country with hollow point ammunition." Somehow, the SSA granted themselves this power and just ran with it.

But the bigger fact is what they're not telling you: 174,000 rounds of ammo is almost nothing compared to the 1.4 billion rounds of ammo being purchased by the DHS. And to my knowledge, nobody has explained why the DHS needs 1.4 billion rounds of ammo.

What is the purpose of all this ammunition?

The federal government, when asked about the ammo, essentially says, "We need it!"

And why do they need it? For their own "safety," of course. "[Armed SSA personnel] also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees, and customers," explains the SSA. So the government, in other words, needs ammo for its safety.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036847_ammo_purcha...

The True Story of Gun Control - "Innocents Betrayed"

http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#101531 Aug 21, 2012
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT GUN CONTROL?

In Proverbs 25:26 we read that "A righteous man who falters before the wicked is like a murky spring and a polluted well." Certainly we would be faltering before the wicked if we chose to be unarmed and unable to resist an assailant who might be threatening our life.

At one point, when Satan was tempting Jesus in the wilderness, he challenged Jesus to throw himself off the top of the temple. Satan reasoned that God's angels would protect him. Jesus responded: "It is written again,'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'" (Matthew 4:7) It may seem pious to say that one is trusting in God for protection, and we all must, but it is tempting God if we do not take the measures that He has laid out for us in the Bible.

Resisting an attack is not to be confused with taking vengeance which is the exclusive domain of God (Romans 12:19).

We must also consider what Christ told his disciples in his last hours with them: "...But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" (Luke 22:36, emphasis added). Keep in mind that the sword was the finest offensive weapon available to and individual soldier - the equivalent then of a military rifle today.

http://www.lawandliberty.org/defense.htm
Jacques Ottawa

Mississauga, Canada

#101532 Aug 21, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey guys, Terri Tunna is even nastier than her normal self. I guess she has been reading the polls and now knows Obama will lose in November. In fact, he will lose by at least 10 points like Jimmy Carter did in 1980!
My gut feeling is Obama will win. My gut feeling is I will then write that you predicted on this day, August 21, 1012, that you wrote : "Obama will lose in November. In fact, he will lose by at least 10 points like Jimmy Carter". My gut feeling is you will reply "I never wrote that" , my gut feeling is I will write "yes, you did", my gut feeling is you will say "if you're so smart, find it yourself" and my gut feeling is I will,'cuz this time I'm storing it. Page 35354 number Post number 101526. My last gut feeling is that a birther, any birther, will tell me to mind my own business and stay in Canada.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#101533 Aug 21, 2012
"The love of money is the root of all evil"

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