US sharpens criticism of Hamas, urges cease-fire

Jul 20, 2014 Full story: The Washington Post 270

In this Thursday, April 24, 2014, file photo, Secretary of State John Kerry speaks in Washington.

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Since: Nov 08

Paris

#50 Jul 23, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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Firstly there is no evidence that the majority of the inhabitants of W.Palestine have lived there for "thousands of years". on the contrary the majority have arrived over the past 3 centuries.
Most of the land was not privately owned either. So it wasn't theirs in the first place.
SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW WHERE THE PALESTINIANS AS A NATION HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO THE LAND?
These were not "incursions" as you seem to believe but retaliation for continuous cross border attacks since the 1940's.
The West Bank and Gaza were occupied territory by Jordan and Egypt according to international law. They had no legal claim to it.
Firstly 80% of Palestine was given to the Husein family in the 1920's.
Out of the 20% left Israel got a chunk it had to fight for.
The UN didn't give Israel shit. It cut up most of the land against the Mandate for Palestine.
The US didn't fully fund and support Israel at all. On the contrary it put an embargo on weapons to Israel.
The Gaza strip is not the most densely populated place in the world far from it.
They acted this way in the year 2001 when their economy was at its highest ever and better than much of the region. they turned down peace talks and started a war.
SO BASICALLY YOUR POST IS A BUNCH OF CRAP. AND NOTHING YOU SAID IS ACTUALLY BASED ON REALITY.
That's the modus operandi of the radical left in America.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#51 Jul 23, 2014
Zioni wrote:
<quoted text>
So you start talking crap and than just post an opinion piece.
Not sure what exactly you debunked or proved from your post.
As for the aid is was after the peace agreement to help compensate the cost of moving an air base.
The Mandate for Palestine give Jews the right, private ownership gives Jews the right, and the existance of Israel gives Jews the right.
SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW WHERE THE PALESTINIANS AS A NATION HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO THE LAND?
So now in your opinion, the History Channel, which has no ideological agenda whatsoever, is in your eyes an opinion piece?

I've better things to do than argue with a fake Jew making posts from a fake ISP location son.

Post proof with links should you wish to continue this discussion. Otherwise, we have nothing to say to each other.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#52 Jul 23, 2014
Zioni wrote:
<quoted text>
Firstly there is no evidence that the majority of the inhabitants of W.Palestine have lived there for "thousands of years". on the contrary the majority have arrived over the past 3 centuries.
Most of the land was not privately owned either. So it wasn't theirs in the first place.
SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW WHERE THE PALESTINIANS AS A NATION HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO THE LAND?
These were not "incursions" as you seem to believe but retaliation for continuous cross border attacks since the 1940's.
The West Bank and Gaza were occupied territory by Jordan and Egypt according to international law. They had no legal claim to it.
Firstly 80% of Palestine was given to the Husein family in the 1920's.
Out of the 20% left Israel got a chunk it had to fight for.
The UN didn't give Israel shit. It cut up most of the land against the Mandate for Palestine.
The US didn't fully fund and support Israel at all. On the contrary it put an embargo on weapons to Israel.
The Gaza strip is not the most densely populated place in the world far from it.
They acted this way in the year 2001 when their economy was at its highest ever and better than much of the region. they turned down peace talks and started a war.
SO BASICALLY YOUR POST IS A BUNCH OF CRAP. AND NOTHING YOU SAID IS ACTUALLY BASED ON REALITY.
"Facts All US Citizens Need to Know About Israel and Palestine"

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-...
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#53 Jul 23, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
So now in your opinion, the History Channel, which has no ideological agenda whatsoever, is in your eyes an opinion piece?
I've better things to do than argue with a fake Jew making posts from a fake ISP location son.
Post proof with links should you wish to continue this discussion. Otherwise, we have nothing to say to each other.
You should look into the History channel as many of their "documentaries" are total BS.
No ideological agenda? You are naive.

Nice to know that you don't bother actually researching the sources you post.

This is not a discussion, it is me telling you again that you wrote total crap and have no idea what you are talking about. It would be a debate but you can't have a real opinion of you know nothing about the subject you post.

Who even said I was Jewish? What has my ISP got to do with anything?

SINCE YOU CLAIM I TALK CRAP SHOW ME ONE LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT IN INTERNATIONAL LAW WHICH GIVES THE PALESTINIANS AS A NATION A RIGHT TO THE LAND?
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#54 Jul 23, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Facts All US Citizens Need to Know About Israel and Palestine"
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-...
If this link you posted is fact than name the international legal document which gives the Palestinians as a nation the legal right to the land?

There is no evidence Israel intentionally targets civilians. On the contrary speak to Richard Kemp who actually fought war. He will disagree with you and say that Israel fights the most moral battles in the history of the world. Again if you think otherwise name a battle.

The IJC is irrelevant when they don't follow international law but make it up which isn't their job.

Israel doesn't keep Palestinians children in cages overnight in the winter. Israeli prisoners are often transferred and spend some hours in cages. The documentary that your link got this from has been proven as incitement to hatred towards Israel.

There was no occupation in Gaza as Israel left last decade.
There has not been a month where missiles or a cross border attack hasn't come from Gaza in years.

These two teens were not murdered by Israel and the video is clearly doctored.

The rockets began and never stopped years ago.
The so called "pathetic scrap metal rockets" include precision missiles which can hit 100s of km's away.

The Palestinians never kept a ceasefire to break it.

Go to Elderz of Zion blog and you can find a list of over 800 so called civilians from the last war who ended up being terrorists of their own admission.
So disgusting that when Jews fight the enemy is considered a civilians even if they died in battle holding a weapon in their hand.

While Israel wars were sometimes "war of choice" this does not mean what is claimed. Israel was under constant attack from 1948-67. This means 100's of cross border attacks. This is an act of war.

Even Arafats friends said in 2000 that he turned down a great deal, and he didn't even negotiate. At the same time he planned the intifada months in advance.

Israel has more resolutions against it than every country put together. If that doesn't show clear bias against Israel you may as well kill yourself.
Un General Assembly resolutions have no legal basis so can't be "violated".

Hamas was elected until 2009 and they refuse elections since. SO there is no legal government.

HAMAS OWN LEADERS ON CAMERA AND FACEBOOK PAGE ADMIT TO USING HUMAN SHIELDS AS A POLICY.

Goldstone himself has condemned his own report saying it wouldn't stand up in a court of law and much is hearsay.

Hamas own charter calls to kill Jews as a policy and that Israel will exist until Islam destroys it. So your link lies about this also trying to portray Hamas as peaceful.

Gaza a concentration camp? where 10,000's of Palestinians go to Israel each year for FREE MEDICAL TREATMENT. Their markets are brimming with food, and supplies. They have 5^ hotels, water parks and many malls.

HAMAS OFFICIALLY CALLS TO KILL JEWS AND YOUR LINK CLAIMS THOSE CALLING IT ANTISEMITISM ARE PROPAGANDISTS?

Where in international law does it give the Palestinians the right to send suicide bombers into civilian areas and fire indiscriminate missiles at civilian towns?

Most Arabs left the land in 1940's without even seeing a Jew. They never had a piece of land to lost and Israel consists of under 20% of the Mandate for Palestine.

SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW WHERE THE GREEN LINE IS A LEGAL BORDER ( In reference to your links claim of illegal settlements)?

SO TOO SUM UP THE ABOVE IS JUST A FRACTION OF DEBUNKING THE CRAP YOUR POST STATED. Since you are unable to actually write something yourself you should go back to google school.

maybe learn the meaning of the word fact.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#55 Jul 23, 2014
Zioni wrote:
<quoted text>
The Palestinian leadership have made it very clear that Jews will not be allowed to live in their state.
IT IS ILLEGAL TO SELL LAND TO A JEW ON PAIN OF DEATH.
As for the Orchard story it has already been proven to be a lie. The orchard wasn't Palestinian, no trees were burnt and this was a festival where the whole country make bomb-fires and celebrate. There was nothing illegal about it and police and journalists were there there is no evidence of your claims even though dozens of people recorded the event.
THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF A BLOOD LIBEL BY A "JOURNALIST" AGAINST JEWS.
Haaretz says otherwise, that Israeli Jews brutalized a Palestinian orchard.
Mic

Even Yehuda, Israel

#56 Jul 24, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
First off, you and most others here know nothing of Israel, the US sponsored occupation after WW2, and the fact even the US did not want European Jews in our own country after WW2.
What Israel did to the Palestinians is very similar to what America did to the NaÔve American Indians when we came here - take their land, and stick them into reservations / now would you be pissed if a superpower came to the aid of another, gave away your land, bulldozed your homes and businesses, and stick you in a 25 square mile region surrounded by a wall?
Our nation sticking its nose into the fate of what became Israel dates back to WW1 / do some serious reading, enlighten yourself.
Israel exists only because America sponsors its very existence / Hamas exists as a countermeasure to what America helped to create.
well there is a small difference.
Israel was always the land of Jews. Long before Muhammad.
Jews RETURNED to their old home as they were abused in Europe and Arab countries.
Arabs just can't and couldn't stand what they perceive as humiliation the fact that Jews were able to pull that out against their will.

Since: Aug 09

Minneapolis, MN

#57 Jul 24, 2014
How the hellll can they broker a ceasefire while attacking HAMAS? That is not being even handed. And we the people will not take that crap from Obozobama.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#58 Jul 24, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
How the hellll can they broker a ceasefire while attacking HAMAS? That is not being even handed. And we the people will not take that crap from Obozobama.
Hamas is a terroist org

They deserve to be castigated and eliminated

Since: Aug 09

Minneapolis, MN

#59 Jul 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
<quoted text>
Hamas is a terroist org
Duh? Says who? Besides, I do not care about that non-sense. All I care about is right and wrong. And israel is wrong. It is a terroristic state. Do not play stupid mind games with me.
scirocco wrote:
<quoted text>They deserve to be castigated and eliminated
Try it. This is like the third time or fourth time that Israel has tried. Every time they fail. They will fail this time too. But this time is the beginning of the end of israel. Good-bye israel.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#60 Jul 24, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh? Says who? Besides, I do not care about that non-sense. All I care about is right and wrong. And israel is wrong. It is a terroristic state. Do not play stupid mind games with me.
<quoted text>
Try it. This is like the third time or fourth time that Israel has tried. Every time they fail. They will fail this time too. But this time is the beginning of the end of israel. Good-bye israel.
Why would I play mind games with a mindless fool?

Hamas is a terrorist org and they are proud of it.

Here, scroll down and check out the photos of your big bwave Hamas...

http://news.walla.co.il/...
Dalit Trolls Biffers

Germantown, MD

#61 Jul 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would I play mind games with a mindless fool?
Hamas is a terrorist org and they are proud of it.
Here, scroll down and check out the photos of your big bwave Hamas...
http://news.walla.co.il/...
Blimey, didn't hieroglyphics die out at the time of the Pharaohs?
Dalit Trolls Biffers

Germantown, MD

#62 Jul 24, 2014
Zioni wrote:
<quoted text>
If this link you posted is fact than name the international legal document which gives the Palestinians as a nation the legal right to the land?
There is no evidence Israel intentionally targets civilians. On the contrary speak to Richard Kemp who actually fought war. He will disagree with you and say that Israel fights the most moral battles in the history of the world. Again if you think otherwise name a battle.
The IJC is irrelevant when they don't follow international law but make it up which isn't their job.
Israel doesn't keep Palestinians children in cages overnight in the winter. Israeli prisoners are often transferred and spend some hours in cages. The documentary that your link got this from has been proven as incitement to hatred towards Israel.
There was no occupation in Gaza as Israel left last decade.
There has not been a month where missiles or a cross border attack hasn't come from Gaza in years.
These two teens were not murdered by Israel and the video is clearly doctored.
The rockets began and never stopped years ago.
The so called "pathetic scrap metal rockets" include precision missiles which can hit 100s of km's away.
The Palestinians never kept a ceasefire to break it.
Go to Elderz of Zion blog and you can find a list of over 800 so called civilians from the last war who ended up being terrorists of their own admission.
So disgusting that when Jews fight the enemy is considered a civilians even if they died in battle holding a weapon in their hand.

Comments can only be 4000 characters long, edited for reply.
Yes we know your record on providing sources to document you claims.

That website mentions :

"For example, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many other human rights organizations reported that in Israelís 2009 Gaza Massacre, Israel killed about 450 children, and it was Israel, they documented, that broke the ceasefire.(In that massacre, Israel killed overall from 1,400 to 7,000 Palestinians, almost all civilians, while 13 Israelis were killed, several from friendly fire.)"

Is Nutanyhobbo looking to outdo that record before SH!Trael gives up in Gaza this time around?

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#63 Jul 24, 2014
The end of Hamas is near...

White House Adviser: Cease-Fire Should Include Demilitarization of Gaza

Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken said in an interview that any cease-fire agreement between Israel and Palestinians must include the demilitarization of Gaza.

"There has to be some way forward that does not involve Hamas having the ability to continue to rain down rockets on Israeli civilians," he said.

"One of the results, one would hope, of a cease-fire would be some form of demilitarization."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/07/2...

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#64 Jul 24, 2014
Dalit Trolls Biffers wrote:
<quoted text>
Blimey, didn't hieroglyphics die out at the time of the Pharaohs?
The Coptic Christians are the descendents of the indigenous ancient Egyptians NOT the Arabs who invaded Egypt and currently control it

Since: Aug 09

Minneapolis, MN

#65 Jul 24, 2014
Dalit Trolls Biffers wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes we know your record on providing sources to document you claims.
That website mentions :
"For example, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many other human rights organizations reported that in Israelís 2009 Gaza Massacre, Israel killed about 450 children, and it was Israel, they documented, that broke the ceasefire.(In that massacre, Israel killed overall from 1,400 to 7,000 Palestinians, almost all civilians, while 13 Israelis were killed, several from friendly fire.)"
Is Nutanyhobbo looking to outdo that record before SH!Trael gives up in Gaza this time around?
israel has taken the bait. There is not going to be an easy pullout this time. They took the bait and the Zionist entity will destroy itself in Gaza this time. if they attempt to pull back, more and more rockets will rain down on them. There is no way out now. They should have stayed out when they were out. Good-bye, israel.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#66 Jul 24, 2014
Hamas is as dumb as ever placing civilians and women and children directly in harms way and the world doesn't give a damn about them.

There isn't enough concrete in this world to rebuild Gaza after the IDF is through

Go IDF

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#67 Jul 24, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
israel has taken the bait. There is not going to be an easy pullout this time. They took the bait and the Zionist entity will destroy itself in Gaza this time. if they attempt to pull back, more and more rockets will rain down on them. There is no way out now. They should have stayed out when they were out. Good-bye, israel.
as always, you muslims are delusional.

do you really believe that you will take over the world? what did you think we non-muslims are going to do? just sit there and let you kill us?

you monkeys are so stupid, it's pitiful.

Since: Aug 09

Minneapolis, MN

#68 Jul 24, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
as always, you muslims are delusional.
do you really believe that you will take over the world? what did you think we non-muslims are going to do? just sit there and let you kill us?
you monkeys are so stupid, it's pitiful.
Good-bye israel. Yes. I believe we will destroy israel.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#69 Jul 24, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
So now in your opinion, the History Channel, which has no ideological agenda whatsoever, is in your eyes an opinion piece?
I've better things to do than argue with a fake Jew making posts from a fake ISP location son.
Post proof with links should you wish to continue this discussion. Otherwise, we have nothing to say to each other.
So you prefer HAMAS to Israel..........

Infant Among Casualties as Hamas Continues to Stage Attacks Using Human Shields Libeals prefer this pond scum to Israel.

Jihadists in Iraq order women undergo genital mutilation Thanks Obama for not staying the course..........and I don' t mean golf.

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