Filibuster change clears path for Oba...

Filibuster change clears path for Obama climate regs crackdown

There are 102 comments on the The Hill story from Nov 23, 2013, titled Filibuster change clears path for Obama climate regs crackdown. In it, The Hill reports that:

Green groups might be the biggest winners from Senate Democrats' decision to gut the minority party's filibuster rights on nominations.

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senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#26 Nov 24, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Got to agree with Larry, the Democrats are in absolute control. Guess we sit back and see how they do.
They will do just as they are doing now about Obamacare. They will screw up things royally and tell the world the GOP would not help me. They neglect to say the GOP tried to help but Reid would not let one bill come up before the Senate. Obama has reaped what he has sowed.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#27 Nov 24, 2013
Most importantly, filibuster change clears the path to restore democracy in America, even though the Republicans have stacked the deck in their favor by using every trick they know to minimize votes for Democrats.

Who doesn’t favor a level playing field?

(That’s a rhetorical question — we all know the answer.)
Cat74

Woodridge, IL

#28 Nov 24, 2013
We are not a Democracy, you union schooled morons. We are a Representative Republic. We do not practice mob rule. And the dim-witted Democrats will live to rue the day they got rid of the filibuster.
Don Joe

Maple Grove, MN

#29 Nov 24, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
We are not a Democracy, you union schooled morons. We are a Representative Republic. We do not practice mob rule. And the dim-witted Democrats will live to rue the day they got rid of the filibuster.
Your lack of reality is just amazing. The democrats should have gotten rid of the filibuster when bush was president and they threatened to use the filibuster, and the GOP said, if you do, we will eliminate it. The dems didn't use the filibuster and the GOP got everything they wanted. Since the filibuster is of no use to the democrats, why would they support it? The question, becomes why didn't they get rid of it a long time ago, so that congress would less dysfunctional.
Cat74

Woodridge, IL

#30 Nov 24, 2013
The Democrats will rue the day they had their coup d etet. All they get are judges, and their animosity has make it impossible to get anything else. Obama's Presidency is for all intents, and purposes DOA. Again we won't have mob rule. And if the Democrats lose the Senate in 2014 they will wish they had never handed the Republicans such a great legislative tool to bang them over the head with. People are sick of them, and Obama's poll numbers are the same as Bush's were in 2009. The first black President is doing no better then the President the Democrats despised.
drinK the hivE

Newark, NJ

#31 Nov 24, 2013
Real Illusion:

I Grow Weary Of Accepting The Intricate Tower' And Circuitry That Have Been Sewn Over Certain Misery And Anguish - And Then...

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#32 Nov 24, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually the GOPasaurs control the House.
True, well except for obamacare, that was the 2 years Democrats controlled the House, the Senate and White House. Now, Harry Reid (Obama) have absolute control over what makes it through congress or not, they decide what the Senate will or will not pass. So, Obama/Reid control the passage of ANY budget. Now, with their removing the filibuster rule, they have absolute control who will run the EPA, NSA, IRS, ATF, FBI, etc. etc.. Democrats control where this country is going, period. Like it or not, you are making the rules.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#33 Nov 24, 2013
The concept of our democratic republic is based on the assumption of a level playing field. Our founding fathers did not establish an oligarchy ruled by any one class or any one political party. Since the Republicans had taken to “filibustering” as their standard procedure at every opportunity to block the government from doing its job, all in order to destroy government programs despite their constituents’ wishes, stopping the filibuster was a necessary giant step toward restoring government effectiveness. Of course, it has pulled the rug out from under the Republicans’ feet and certainly angered them to the point of making vague threats, but they ring empty since they had not exactly been operating in the spirit of respectful disagreement and cooperative spirit.
Chicopee

New Fairfield, CT

#36 Nov 24, 2013
kuda wrote:
The concept of our democratic republic is based on the assumption of a level playing field. Our founding fathers did not establish an oligarchy ruled by any one class or any one political party. Since the Republicans had taken to “filibustering” as their standard procedure at every opportunity to block the government from doing its job, all in order to destroy government programs despite their constituents’ wishes, stopping the filibuster was a necessary giant step toward restoring government effectiveness. Of course, it has pulled the rug out from under the Republicans’ feet and certainly angered them to the point of making vague threats, but they ring empty since they had not exactly been operating in the spirit of respectful disagreement and cooperative spirit.
It's a constitutional republic.

A unique form of government, loaded with checks and balances to assure that there was never a one party rule. Operating in the spirit of respective disagreement and cooperative spirit was never expected, nor has it ever been achieved. The filibuster is one of several mechanisms to prevent an oligarchy. The Dems just voted themselves a huge power grab.

The filibuster has been part of the Senate rules since the beginning and is part of the system of checks and balances, one which the Democrats used successfully on several occasions during the Bush administration. I didn't hear anyone bitching about oligarchy's then. Did you?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#37 Nov 25, 2013
Chicopee wrote:
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It's a constitutional republic.
A unique form of government, loaded with checks and balances to assure that there was never a one party rule. Operating in the spirit of respective disagreement and cooperative spirit was never expected, nor has it ever been achieved. The filibuster is one of several mechanisms to prevent an oligarchy. The Dems just voted themselves a huge power grab.
The filibuster has been part of the Senate rules since the beginning and is part of the system of checks and balances, one which the Democrats used successfully on several occasions during the Bush administration. I didn't hear anyone bitching about oligarchy's then. Did you?
Of course, we’re a constitutional republic, just as you say, just as we’re a democracy too.

While the filibuster has traditionally been used to help insure balance of power, the Republicans misappropriated it as (yet another) way to steal power that it is no longer able to garner legitimately. The Democrats finally stood up to Republican bullying through consistently “filibustering” everything to systematically obstruct government functioning. The Republicans responded predictably as bullies do by threatening “you’ll be sorry” and pretending that the Democrats were unreasonable to standup to their bullying.

The big problem with denial by sticking one’s head in the sand is that it’s only a fool’s paradise.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#38 Nov 25, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Of course there is the matter of getting the goggle-eyed Tealoons out of the House of Representatives. After that, it's smooth sailing.
Obama calls GOP an 'impediment' at Seattle fundraiser, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa those dirty republicans won't let me turn America into a paridise like..........Cuba or North Korea.
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#39 Nov 25, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Obama calls GOP an 'impediment' at Seattle fundraiser, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa those dirty republicans won't let me turn America into a paridise like..........Cuba or North Korea.
hahahahahahaha...Reid uses a maneuver that's legal and the teahadists can't do a thing about...except whine like the children they are. LMAO.
Cat74

Plainfield, IL

#40 Nov 25, 2013
It will just as legal next year when it causes the Democrats to lose the House again, and the Senate. Oh, happy days!!
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#41 Nov 25, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It will just as legal next year when it causes the Democrats to lose the House again, and the Senate. Oh, happy days!!
Senate race '14:

Dems 55 thems 45

NO happy days for the extremist teahadists. LMAO.
Cat74

Plainfield, IL

#42 Nov 25, 2013
Senate race 2014, Republicans 52, Democrats 48. You are over looking all those votes from disgruntled Democrats that lost their health insurance, and their Doctors. They won't be voting Democrat nest year. They will be repaying the Democrats for their loss. There is no way you can put lipstick on that pig!!!
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#43 Nov 25, 2013
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
A boondoggle is a project that is considered a useless waste of both time and money, yet is often continued due to extraneous policy motivations.
boondoggle = democrats
The biggest boondoggle in our history was George
W.Bush's corporate feeding frenzy in Baghdad,
sponsored by the American taxpayer with
billions of dollars to be had for the asking.

We will be paying for that one for another generation.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#44 Nov 25, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
hahahahahahaha...Reid uses a maneuver that's legal and the teahadists can't do a thing about...except whine like the children they are. LMAO.
He changed a rule in place for 200 years. Liberals can't win on a level playing field.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#45 Nov 25, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>He changed a rule in place for 200 years. Liberals can't win on a level playing field.
Sure, they can. How do you think they got a majority in the Senate to begin with?

Republicans couldn't win the Senate based on any real issues or principles, so they decide to abuse a rule to obstruct everything.
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#46 Nov 25, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>He changed a rule in place for 200 years. Liberals can't win on a level playing field.
The Constitutional Option is historically legal. Poor worthless teahadists. Beaten at their own game. LMFAO.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#47 Nov 25, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Senate race 2014, Republicans 52, Democrats 48. You are over looking all those votes from disgruntled Democrats that lost their health insurance, and their Doctors. They won't be voting Democrat nest year. They will be repaying the Democrats for their loss. There is no way you can put lipstick on that pig!!!
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