Do You Believe In Evolution?

Do You Believe In Evolution?

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Sat May 05, 2007 at 05:16:04 AM PDT There are few areas of the culture wars that get rational people more upset than the idea that Intelligent Design is legitimate science . via Daily Kos

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Since: Dec 06

NorCal

#1 May 10, 2007
Believe? The word believe infers faith. I prefer to say that I understand evolution as a fact. No faith is necessary as it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Very very few people without religious prejudice disagree.

There is much more proof for evolution than many other theories accepted and taught to students and in daily use by science and industry that are accepted and not challenged due to the fact that there is not a popular conflict with those blinded by their faith.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#2 May 11, 2007
Ridge, you're averaging 32 posts per day!! But, I think "accept evolutionary theory as the best explanation for the observable evidence" is the best way to describe it.

Since: Dec 06

NorCal

#3 May 11, 2007
llDayo wrote:
Ridge, you're averaging 32 posts per day!! But, I think "accept evolutionary theory as the best explanation for the observable evidence" is the best way to describe it.
Sounds like I need an intervention! I'll tell my family right away.

Since: Dec 06

United States

#4 May 11, 2007
Semantics, semantics.

At least evolution has the upper hand.
Correa

West Danville, VT

#5 May 11, 2007
I prefer evolution to a poof theory of existence.

Granted, I'm a confused Agnostic.

Since: Apr 07

Nicholasville, KY

#6 May 11, 2007
llDayo wrote:
I think "accept evolutionary theory as the best explanation for the observable evidence" is the best way to describe it.
And this is the way it should be taught, IMHO. As the BEST explanation, not a PERFECT explanation.

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Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#7 May 12, 2007
Christian42 wrote:
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And this is the way it should be taught, IMHO. As the BEST explanation, not a PERFECT explanation.
In my opinion the fossile record alone disproves Darwinian evolution. There are many holes in it. These missing links would need to be present to affirm macro-evolution. The study of index fossils defeats any evidence for evolution. Here is a interesting link to a discussion about the fossile record.http://www.icr.org/arti cle/94/

Carbon dating is a flawed science when you try to date an object more than two thousand years old. There are more modern methods of dating that also show inconsistencies. Here is a good discussion on carbon dating ect.http://www.icr.org/article /117/

DNA code sequencing clearly demonstrate intelligent design. http://www.icr.org/article/3187/

I see a very complex and intricate universe. I see evidence of a creator in a single cell, atom and DNA strand.

“That's just MY opinion...”

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#8 May 12, 2007
Melton wrote:
In my opinion the fossile record alone disproves Darwinian evolution. There are many holes in it. These missing links would need to be present to affirm macro-evolution. The study of index fossils defeats any evidence for evolution. Here is a interesting link to a discussion about the fossile record.http://www.icr.org/arti cle/94/
Carbon dating is a flawed science when you try to date an object more than two thousand years old. There are more modern methods of dating that also show inconsistencies. Here is a good discussion on carbon dating ect.http://www.icr.org/article /117/
DNA code sequencing clearly demonstrate intelligent design. http://www.icr.org/article/3187/
I see a very complex and intricate universe. I see evidence of a creator in a single cell, atom and DNA strand.
If you can do no more than parrot the lies of a creationist website, your opinions will never be taken as anything more than delusional.

Since: Dec 06

Dade City, FL

#9 May 12, 2007
Melton wrote:
<quoted text>In my opinion the fossile record alone disproves Darwinian evolution. There are many holes in it. These missing links would need to be present to affirm macro-evolution. The study of index fossils defeats any evidence for evolution. Here is a interesting link to a discussion about the fossile record.http://www.icr.org/arti cle/94/
Carbon dating is a flawed science when you try to date an object more than two thousand years old. There are more modern methods of dating that also show inconsistencies. Here is a good discussion on carbon dating ect.http://www.icr.org/article /117/
DNA code sequencing clearly demonstrate intelligent design. http://www.icr.org/article/3187/
I see a very complex and intricate universe. I see evidence of a creator in a single cell, atom and DNA strand.
First of all, it doesn't seem like you have a REAL opinion anyway. Just parroting someone else's opinion on a topic that you don't even understand.

Second, you've posted this same drivel in at least three different threads. That's called SPAMming.
Ervin

Myrtle Beach, SC

#10 May 12, 2007
Actually, just the fact that things are evolving as we speak proves that evolution is a fact and should be taught.
I have a strong Christian Faith and believe that religion does not in any way say evolution didn't happen. Its all just part of God's plan and is necessary for our survival as our planet changes.
Algernon Sidney

United States

#11 May 12, 2007
Ridge wrote:
Believe? The word believe infers faith. I prefer to say that I understand evolution as a fact.
But a fact that is insufficient to even come close to explaining the many complex organisms and parts of living organisms that have been created.

Since: Dec 06

Dade City, FL

#12 May 12, 2007
Algernon Sidney wrote:
<quoted text>But a fact that is insufficient to even come close to explaining the many complex organisms and parts of living organisms that have been created.
Actually it is quite certainly sufficient to explain the complexity of life. No reason whatsoever to think it doesn't based on the evidence we have.

Since: Dec 06

NorCal

#13 May 13, 2007
Algernon Sidney wrote:
<quoted text>But a fact that is insufficient to even come close to explaining the many complex organisms and parts of living organisms that have been created.
It has explained more than enough to understand that the process applies to all species studied to the same degree.

If your point is that there are still species who's evolutionary history is unproven I would say that there are still species yet to be studied and even discovered so of course the answer is obvious.

All species sampled have evidence of evolution in their DNA.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#14 May 14, 2007
Ridge wrote:
Believe? The word believe infers faith. I prefer to say that I understand evolution as a fact. No faith is necessary as it has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Very very few people without religious prejudice disagree.
There is much more proof for evolution than many other theories accepted and taught to students and in daily use by science and industry that are accepted and not challenged due to the fact that there is not a popular conflict with those blinded by their faith.
Excellent! I have used language myself in much the same way that you phrase it.

It's NOT belief-- not a "blind leap into the unknowable". Acceptance as "most likely". A very different thing.

By phrasing it as you do-- you leave your mind open to any new information or changes-- and it WON'T "shatter your worldview" one bit.

But, it also means that you won't have an ABSOLUTE answer for "how we got here" -- something that some small-minded people have difficulty with.

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Since: Jan 07

Burbs

#15 May 15, 2007
http://thinkevolution.net/what-is-evolution/#...

I can't substantiate my next claim but I am going to make it anyway. From the standpoint of fitness and being a sports nut all my life, their is something much more instrinsically better by pulling and pushing ones own weight, such as doing chin-ups and dips on parallel bars. The way the muscles interact in combination are much more attuned for growth and strength. When you observe primates doing the same , you see power and strength and their IS a big differnce between the two.

When a person works with freeweights(artiificial work-I call it)they can get strong but not the same way as if they were pushing and pulling their own weight.
A person can be quite strong and not have the power to do one chin up !!! A person might argue that this is because they didnt work a complete group and that would be true but on the other hand, doing the chin-up in and of itself solves that problem. Once its is overcome and practiced, power and strength abound. And a man/women in the gynastic field can look very ape-like in their actions and even more beautiful in their performance.

Thats JMO.

Since: May 07

Vernon, Canada

#16 May 23, 2007
<quote>But, it also means that you won't have an ABSOLUTE answer for "how we got here" <unquote>

Hopefully such a question will be answered one day. I rely on quantum physics bringing a paradigm shift in science, and there is a high probability it will. It truly is amazing what we are beginning to learn in the 21st century.(I hope I did the quote properly, I'm a bit new to forums)

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Since: Dec 06

Hamilton, Canada

#17 May 23, 2007
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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But, it also means that you won't have an ABSOLUTE answer for "how we got here" -- something that some small-minded people have difficulty with.
But there is an ABSOLUTE answer. It just hasn't been proven outright. So say someone figures it out and (obviously) sticks to that answer. Is that person small-minded because they found that absolute answer? Funny how you can equate small-mindedness with true knowledge.

“Pingustopher Walken”

Since: Dec 06

Hamilton, Canada

#18 May 23, 2007
us ourYF 22s wrote:
http://thinkevolution.net/what -is-evolution/#random
I can't substantiate my next claim but I am going to make it anyway. From the standpoint of fitness and being a sports nut all my life, their is something much more instrinsically better by pulling and pushing ones own weight, such as doing chin-ups and dips on parallel bars. The way the muscles interact in combination are much more attuned for growth and strength. When you observe primates doing the same , you see power and strength and their IS a big differnce between the two.
When a person works with freeweights(artiificial work-I call it)they can get strong but not the same way as if they were pushing and pulling their own weight.
A person can be quite strong and not have the power to do one chin up !!! A person might argue that this is because they didnt work a complete group and that would be true but on the other hand, doing the chin-up in and of itself solves that problem. Once its is overcome and practiced, power and strength abound. And a man/women in the gynastic field can look very ape-like in their actions and even more beautiful in their performance.
Thats JMO.
Not sure how this equates to evolution but I totally agree with the free weights vs. your own weight. When you push/pull your own weight you strengthen your core muscle groups which makes you stronger overall as these muscles are what trigger every muscle in your body. Using free weights usually isolates the muscle group you're working on, almost ignoring your core. Anyway, there's my two cents.

Since: Dec 06

Saint Petersburg, FL

#19 May 24, 2007
Starts With S wrote:
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But there is an ABSOLUTE answer. It just hasn't been proven outright. So say someone figures it out and (obviously) sticks to that answer. Is that person small-minded because they found that absolute answer? Funny how you can equate small-mindedness with true knowledge.
Your supposed ABSOLUTE answer hasn't only not been proven outright, it hasn't been shown in any way at all. If someone actually has an answer with true evidence and proof, then it wouldn't be small-minded. But to cling to an absolute that is based on nothing but wishful thinking and old stories because you like them and they make you comfortable, is certainly small-minded.

If the evolution vs. ID/creo debate were a contest, the score would be: evolution - millions to ID/creo - 0. The body of evidence for evolution is incredible not only in it's depth, but in it's breadth as well, given that it involves many different scientific disciplines...none of which contradict each other, and in fact all lead to, and support, the same conclusion...evolution is a fact.
Fossil Bob

Urbana, IL

#20 May 24, 2007
Starts With S wrote:
<quoted text>
But there is an ABSOLUTE answer. It just hasn't been proven outright. So say someone figures it out and (obviously) sticks to that answer. Is that person small-minded because they found that absolute answer? Funny how you can equate small-mindedness with true knowledge.
How would they know...where is the proof?

I could claim to have all the answers...no evidence against me, so I must be right! Therefore, I have "true knowledge", and everyone else is "small-minded"?

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