Marco Rubio Doesn't Want Immigration Reform to be a Gay Rights Issue

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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, the charismatic young gun of the Republican Party, said in a recent interview he hopes the bipartisan immigration overhaul plan doesn't become a gay rights issue.

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Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#377 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The point is, there's a long history of interracial marriage, the argument goes back past the Old Testament. Also, no such history exists for same sex marriage, there are no pre20th century arguments for same sex marriage.
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<quoted text>If you don't like DOMA, tell your representatives to repeal it. If you rely on the courts, that's antidemocratic.
Same sex marriage is bad because it's antidemocratic.
We are telling the courts to repeal it, since it is unconstitutional. That's usually the way it works with unconstitutional laws.

And the last line of your post is silly. Can you explain how having the SAME protections for my family that you have for yours could possibly be "anti-democratic?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#378 Mar 14, 2013
fritobandito wrote:
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Then why respond? I know why, because you're cruising the forum, right?
Don't need to. Already have a husband, and for the last 20 years. We don't get to San Diego much, so calm yourself. Unless you are in Ikea on the east side of the city, we won't run into you.

The road over the mountains is so scary that I get hand cramps on the steering wheel, from not removing them for 90 minutes.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#379 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The point is, there's a long history of interracial marriage, the argument goes back past the Old Testament. Also, no such history exists for same sex marriage, there are no pre20th century arguments for same sex marriage.
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<quoted text>If you don't like DOMA, tell your representatives to repeal it. If you rely on the courts, that's antidemocratic.
Same sex marriage is bad because it's antidemocratic.
Wow, you are desperate. And it shows.

The courts will be faster, and that is not antidemocratic. It is correcting an abuse of the law.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#380 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The point is, there's a long history of interracial marriage, the argument goes back past the Old Testament. Also, no such history exists for same sex marriage, there are no pre20th century arguments for same sex marriage.
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<quoted text>If you don't like DOMA, tell your representatives to repeal it. If you rely on the courts, that's antidemocratic.
Same sex marriage is bad because it's antidemocratic.
We're not a democracy, which is why we have a SCOTUS in the first place.

If you don't like our constitutional form of government, then feel free to change the constitution.

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#381 Mar 14, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
We're not a democracy, which is why we have a SCOTUS in the first place. If you don't like our constitutional form of government, then feel free to change the constitution.
That's exactly what the people of California did, voted to change their Constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman. A single judge dismissed their democratic vote and imposed a new definition of marriage on the state. That's why same sex marriage is antidemocratic.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#382 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly what the people of California did, voted to change their Constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman. A single judge dismissed their democratic vote and imposed a new definition of marriage on the state. That's why same sex marriage is antidemocratic.
Again, our judiciary (judges & courts) is part of our "democracy".

If you don't like it, then change the US Constitution to remove the judiciary.

Good luck with that.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#383 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly what the people of California did, voted to change their Constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman. A single judge dismissed their democratic vote and imposed a new definition of marriage on the state. That's why same sex marriage is antidemocratic.
It's called "checks and balances," stupid.

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#384 Mar 14, 2013
Emancipation and suffrage were won by democratic process; the US Supreme Court decided an escaped slave must be returned to his master in the Dred Scott decision.

Of course, emancipation and suffrage have been debated for thousands of years but there is no pre20th century debate on same sex marriage.

Same sex marriage is antidemocratic.

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#385 Mar 14, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Again, our judiciary (judges & courts) is part of our "democracy".
Earlier he claimed: "We're not a democracy,..." That must be why he put democracy in quotes.

Same sex marriage is antidemocratic, look at all the same sex marriage promoters who reject democratic votes.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
If you don't like it, then change the US Constitution to remove the judiciary. Good luck with that.
Thanks, that's exactly what I advocate; a Constitutional Amendment to keep marriage one man and one woman.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#386 Mar 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Earlier he claimed: "We're not a democracy,..." That must be why he put democracy in quotes.
Same sex marriage is antidemocratic, look at all the same sex marriage promoters who reject democratic votes.
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<quoted text>Thanks, that's exactly what I advocate; a Constitutional Amendment to keep marriage one man and one woman.
Feel free to work on that. In the meantime we'll continue to pass marriage equality in more states and use the courts to overturn bans where necessary.

We'll see who's victorious in the end.

Better hurry though, because very close to getting enough states to block any attempt at ratfication- we only need 13; assuming of course you can get 2/3rd of both the House & Senate to pass any such amendment......

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Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#388 Mar 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Emancipation and suffrage were won by democratic process....
LOL!!!! MUST you make your stupidity so obvious???

I guess if you call a Civil War with hundreds of thousands of people dead a "democratic process".....

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#389 Mar 15, 2013
eJohn wrote:
LOL!!!! MUST you make your stupidity so obvious???
I guess if you call a Civil War with hundreds of thousands of people dead a "democratic process".....
True, you have a point that some rights are won by blood; but is that the way you want to go?

Reason Number 3 for keeping marriage male/female: Survival

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#390 Mar 15, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Feel free to work on that. In the meantime we'll continue to pass marriage equality in more states and use the courts to overturn bans where necessary. We'll see who's victorious in the end.
Time will tell.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
Better hurry though, because very close to getting enough states to block any attempt at ratfication- we only need 13; assuming of course you can get 2/3rd of both the House & Senate to pass any such amendment......
No need to hurry, same sex marriage is fin de siècle folly.

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Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#391 Mar 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>True, you have a point that some rights are won by blood; but is that the way you want to go?
Reason Number 3 for keeping marriage male/female: Survival
Freedom and equality are worth it.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#392 Mar 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>True, you have a point that some rights are won by blood; but is that the way you want to go?
Reason Number 3 for keeping marriage male/female: Survival
Lets talk about your divorce rates and out of wedlock child birth rates first.

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Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#393 Mar 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>True, you have a point that some rights are won by blood; but is that the way you want to go?
Reason Number 3 for keeping marriage male/female: Survival
With the earth literally on the verge of over population bomb, I don't think that at most 10% of the population's behavior is going to make much of a dent. There are PLENTY of kids being born, too many. I used to work almost across the street from the LA Dept. Of Health. I would see young women on their way to the pre-natal clinics in that building. They would be preggers out to there, a baby in arms, and two or three hanging on to her skirt. Don't worry about not enough children.

I've read that in 3rd world countries where birth control is illegal, the young women stand by the churches to beg, but are not allowed to use birth control, thus being doomed to a lifetime of misery and poverty and more and more children. You have no worry about there not being enough kids, but one day they will NOT be your lily white color.

You should thank those who aren't clogging the planet up.

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Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#395 Mar 20, 2013
18 Facts Prove Illegal Immigration Is Absolute Nightmare For U.S. Economy
http://www.infowars.com/18-facts-prove-illega...

Congressman Barletta: Don’t Forget Visa Overstayers
http://www.vdare.com/posts/congressman-barlet...

Amnesty Won't Help the GOP Win Hispanic Votes
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/26/...

ICE Cuts Deal with Unions to Avoid Enforcing Immigration Law
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

Why America cannot add 138 million more people by 2050
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion/2013/02/why-...

High cost of illegal aliens behind the wheel
http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/high-cost-of-illeg...

Previously deported illegal alien charged with child-rape, arrested in Md.
http://www.examiner.com/article/previously-de...

Human smuggler arrested in Arizona has been deported eight times
http://www.examiner.com/article/human-smuggle...

These criminals will be amnestied as no one in gov't will check their background.

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#396 Mar 20, 2013
Many same sex marriage supporters want to stop population growth, they want less people on their planet so they'll have more resources.

Reason #1 for keeping marriage one man and one woman: Posterity.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#397 Mar 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Many same sex marriage supporters want to stop population growth, they want less people on their planet so they'll have more resources.
Reason #1 for keeping marriage one man and one woman: Posterity.
Please explain how allowing same-sex couples to marry prevents heteros from reproducing?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#398 Mar 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Many same sex marriage supporters want to stop population growth, they want less people on their planet so they'll have more resources.
Reason #1 for keeping marriage one man and one woman: Posterity.
Btw, many people of all persuasions support curbing our out-of-control unsustainable population growth.

Yes, we would like enough food & water & land to support the population of the world.

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