Editorial: Seize opportunity for immigration reform

Nov 13, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Dallas Morning News

So many great opportunities have come and gone to attain real progress on comprehensive immigration reform.

Comments
1 - 20 of 90 Comments Last updated Nov 18, 2012
First Prev
of 5
Next Last

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#1
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

3

3

3

Open Letter to John Gibson,Shawn Hannity,John Boehner,Luis V. Gutierrez & Lindsey Graham

11/9/2012

The gentleman I've listed above are advocating amnesty for the 12-20 million (wag) illegal aliens in our country . I strongly disagree with their position for the following reasons.

In 1986 President Reagan signed off on a bill granting amnesty to 1 1/2- 2 Million illegal aliens, today I wonder how many more of their family members are here now because of the Chain Immigration policy in place?

In the past 26 years since President Reagan signed that bill, because of politicians like Congressman John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez and Senator Lindsey Graham who have none nothing to help control our borders except to stick their finger in the dike to appease the voters at home,12-20 Million more illegal aliens (wag) have entered our country and now because the finger caper didn't work their solution to the problem is amnesty.

The message that people like Sean Hannity , John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez & Lindsey Graham are sending to immigrants around the world is that if you can enter our country illegally without getting caught and hide out for another 26 years, then sooner or later another amnesty will be granted.

Case in point, a large number of American Hispanic voters including Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez have again rally their support for amnesty, and are using their vote to blackmail the Democrats into granting it. My question is what are those Hispanic Americans basing their support on?

My answer is it's based on the fact that a large number of the illegal aliens are also Hispanics which would appear to make their support based on race.( Google some of Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez's comments on the subject).

Now if I say I don't support amnesty because it's wrong then those same people yell "Racist".

We currently have no control of immigration into our country, yet continue to allow in around 900,000 legal immigrations a year, and now John Gibson,Shawn Hannity,John Boehner,Luis V. Gutierrez & Lindsey Graham want to add 12-20 Million illegal aliens to our population which is now around 315 Million.

My question to John Gibson, Sean Hannity , John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez & Lindsey Graham that support amnesty is how many more immigrants legal & illegal entering our country will make you happy?

My closing comment is that violating our immigration laws should not be rewarded with American Citizenship, it's worth more than that! Just because you can walk across our borders or swim / wade across a river doesn't give someone a place at the head of the line here. The line for those people starts inside the border of their own country.

To compound the problem, under the 14 Amendment we have around 300,00 new American Citizens a year born in our country to just illegal Hispanic women, and yes John,Shawn , John B.,Luis & Lindsey a lot of them walk or swim/ wade across our border to have those babies.

Dave
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#2
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

3

3

1

Dallas morning news staff can go f%&k each other. I think its hilarious how one bad election makes all you demofags think you run the world. Get of your pony Obama dosent want to pass amnesty he just used Hispanics to get an edge in an election that had real Americans divided on many issues that's why the Latino vote kinda helped this election and the vast majority of Americans will riot if amnesty were to pass again. Why don't We have a popular vote in this country to determine the fate of illegals aliens and let's if Americans are divided on this issue? I guaranty you the Hispanic vote wouldn't matter in any way if such vote were to take place.
jose

Hillsboro, OR

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#3
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

1

1

The first 2 comments are from haters...
Jose Patino

Las Vegas, NV

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#4
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

It's time to stop thinking the hillbilly confederate way this country needs an immigration reform to give undocumented immigrants a chance to contribute to this country.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#5
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

3

2

2

jose wrote:
The first 2 comments are from haters...
as is yours

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#6
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

4

3

2

Jose Patino wrote:
It's time to stop thinking the hillbilly confederate way this country needs an immigration reform to give undocumented immigrants a chance to contribute to this country.
why reward criminals.

“BetchaMyGollyWow”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#7
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

2

Jose Patino wrote:
It's time to stop thinking the hillbilly confederate way this country needs an immigration reform to give undocumented immigrants a chance to contribute to this country.
When it comes to money illegals are not stupid. For example , do you actually think illegals would want to pay into Obamacare(eventually) when they are exempt from these taxes now/come January. Get really. It's not about Amnesty,it's not about what our Politicians claim it to be. it's about votes for the Democratic Party and for the illegals? It's about hand-outs to support their ever growing family. Illegals have come to realize that the more they breed the more money they can get. The American people are on to you and your ways.

“BetchaMyGollyWow”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

2

Americans are losing jobs,Americans are losing their homes,Americans are selling off their assets,Americans are being taxed to death(especially come January),many/many are losing their unemployment benefits come next month which will add to those unemployed numbered, and the list goes on. The Chit is getting closer to hitting the fan,,,, and illegals think the money will be there to support them. LOL,,, we will see !!!
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#9
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

3

3

1

Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>why reward criminals.
Who said anything about criminals? You well know that unlawful presence is a civil violation. This places it into the same legal classification as a traffic ticket.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#10
Nov 13, 2012
 
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said anything about criminals? You well know that unlawful presence is a civil violation. This places it into the same legal classification as a traffic ticket.
f&?k you thier criminals
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#11
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

1

nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>f&?k you thier criminals
Reality is not important to you? OK. Enjoy life living in your bubble.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#12
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

1

Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Reality is not important to you? OK. Enjoy life living in your bubble.
well the penalty for that civil offense is deportation not amnesty but I guess this isn't reality wright?
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#14
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

2

nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>well the penalty for that civil offense is deportation not amnesty but I guess this isn't reality wright?
Can't stay on topic can you? Most people who live in a fantasy world seem to be in a happy place. You exist in an angry misinformed fantasy world. How sad.

Try to read. Learn something about the real world. You will be much better off.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#15
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't stay on topic can you? Most people who live in a fantasy world seem to be in a happy place. You exist in an angry misinformed fantasy world. How sad.
Try to read. Learn something about the real world. You will be much better off.
how am I off topic you idiot? You said coming into this country illegally is "only a civil offense" and I gave the penalty for that "civil offense" according to federal law. I live very much in the real world now anchor babies and greedy employers live in a fantasy world which one do you fall under? Laws are in place for a good reason and the must be enforced.
jade9

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#16
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

3

2

2

I agree with you what you had to say about Regan passing the law etc etc ...

However we do have too many illegal immigrants and something has to be done about it. They take advantage of our country. They don't pay taxes. They use our hospitals and never pay for it as they don't have insurance and they can't be tracable as they don't have social security. Not to mention the fact that they are untracable could also mean that a huge percentage of crimes comes from them and they are never cought as they never reported their fingerpritns. When people are desperate they are capable of a lot of things. This comes from me only by watching action movies but they can easily rob a bank, take millions with them back home and noone can trace them. But if they have dreams of becoming american citizens they'll go through the process of putting their fingerprints into the system, getting their social securities, where hospital bills, taxes and everything else can be reported on their names, this could eliminate a lot of crimes and much more that comes from having all these undocumented people. They could possibly easily get themselves deported.

I do believe something has to be done. It has to be handled right and NO MORE illigal people in this country.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#17
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

jade9 wrote:
I agree with you what you had to say about Regan passing the law etc etc ...
However we do have too many illegal immigrants and something has to be done about it. They take advantage of our country. They don't pay taxes. They use our hospitals and never pay for it as they don't have insurance and they can't be tracable as they don't have social security. Not to mention the fact that they are untracable could also mean that a huge percentage of crimes comes from them and they are never cought as they never reported their fingerpritns. When people are desperate they are capable of a lot of things. This comes from me only by watching action movies but they can easily rob a bank, take millions with them back home and noone can trace them. But if they have dreams of becoming american citizens they'll go through the process of putting their fingerprints into the system, getting their social securities, where hospital bills, taxes and everything else can be reported on their names, this could eliminate a lot of crimes and much more that comes from having all these undocumented people. They could possibly easily get themselves deported.
I do believe something has to be done. It has to be handled right and NO MORE illigal people in this country.
no amnesty plain and simple. I read in an article a month ago that said the taxes illegals would pay as citizens won't even cover 1% of our national debt. Illegal aliens won't get amnesty because it dosent make sense and it will definitely put us in a bigger financial hole. This election has filled democrats and stupid latinos heads with hot air. Republicans will never allow amnesty and its what's wright for this beautiful nation.
Sean

Warwick, RI

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#18
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

They cannot sellout the country if only one person stands up.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#19
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

2

nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>no amnesty plain and simple. I read in an article a month ago that said the taxes illegals would pay as citizens won't even cover 1% of our national debt. Illegal aliens won't get amnesty because it dosent make sense and it will definitely put us in a bigger financial hole. This election has filled democrats and stupid latinos heads with hot air. Republicans will never allow amnesty and its what's wright for this beautiful nation.
Did your article mention the economic devastation that would result if they all left? Millions of empty housing units would drive the housing market back into the ground.

Of course they all pay property and school taxes either directly or through their landlord. We are going to have to make up the difference. As you know in New York we pay on average close to $15K in property taxes. Are you really looking forward to paying more?

A 3% reduction in the population would put a huge dent into the GDP and forget about the effects it would have on Social Security. One of the deep dark secrets of Social Security is they depend on the money they receive from illegal immigrants. The Social Security Administration estimates that 75% of undocumented workers pay income taxes, Social Security and Medicare. Since they can never collect Social Security themselves this becomes found money for the rest of us. It is estimated that they pay $7B per year in Social Security taxes that they will never be able to reclaim.

I don't want to be the one to break the news to you, but the Republicans have already sold you out.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#20
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Did your article mention the economic devastation that would result if they all left? Millions of empty housing units would drive the housing market back into the ground.
Of course they all pay property and school taxes either directly or through their landlord. We are going to have to make up the difference. As you know in New York we pay on average close to $15K in property taxes. Are you really looking forward to paying more?
A 3% reduction in the population would put a huge dent into the GDP and forget about the effects it would have on Social Security. One of the deep dark secrets of Social Security is they depend on the money they receive from illegal immigrants. The Social Security Administration estimates that 75% of undocumented workers pay income taxes, Social Security and Medicare. Since they can never collect Social Security themselves this becomes found money for the rest of us. It is estimated that they pay $7B per year in Social Security taxes that they will never be able to reclaim.
I don't want to be the one to break the news to you, but the Republicans have already sold you out.
oh Hi Barry you coward

“Legals against Illegals!”

Since: Dec 11

Willing to stand and Fight!

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#21
Nov 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Jose Patino wrote:
It's time to stop thinking the hillbilly confederate way this country needs an immigration reform to give undocumented immigrants a chance to contribute to this country.
If they want a chance to contibute to this country...they can go back where they came from and fix that place!!!!!

Sign the petition to enforce immigration laws! http://www.change.org/petitions/the-federal-g...

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

First Prev
of 5
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

•••