Senators unveil bipartisan immigration bill

Apr 15, 2013 Full story: Reuters 152

A bipartisan group of senators on Tuesday unveiled long-awaited landmark legislation to remove the threat of deportation for millions of illegal immigrants and give them an opportunity to eventually become U.S. citizens.

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Rem223

Madison, CT

#134 Apr 19, 2013
Wonder how many more muslim terrorists have been allowed to enter America under obamas watch.
Rem223

Madison, CT

#135 Apr 19, 2013
First liberal media said these 2 terrorists have only been here 2 to 3 years, now Fox News is reporting they have possibly been here up to 10 years, meaning they came in when Bush was at the helm.

Meanwhile how many more muslim terrorists among others are laying in wait around America?, thanks to Americas misguided immigration policies.......

Since: Apr 13

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#136 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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They come because they want to be US citizens, and their quality of life here is better than in their native country.
Same reason most other immigrants came to the US, legally or not.
You still haven't identified all those Americans who are going to pick strawberries in the hot California sun all day for $5....
I would think if they want to be American citizens, then they would follow our laws and apply as the law requires. Otherwise it seems to me it is an invation not an attempt to assimilate and become citizens.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#137 Apr 19, 2013
Rem223 wrote:
Wonder how many more muslim terrorists have been allowed to enter America under obamas watch.
It's the big bang theory. Ask Boston.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#138 Apr 19, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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Being stupid now, are you? It has nothing to do with education or skills. It is about greedy employers wanting to profit off of cheap, illegal labor, period!
Oh pray tell where are these millions of job being advertised? Most blue-collared Americans I know are beating the streets trying to find a job and they aren't uneducated nor are they unskilled.
Remain in denial if you wish. Illegal aliens have pushed Americans out of their job by working for less, ILLEGALLY!
Apparently the illegals have no problem finding jobs.

Open any help wanted section in any newpaper and there are pages upon pages of job listings.

I guess the 23 million unemployed Americans are just to stupid to figure it out?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#139 Apr 19, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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Again only 3% of illegal aliens are picking crops! The other 97% are doing jobs that Americans have always done. Even for crop picking there are unlimited H-2A visas for LEGAL, foreign crop pickers. So there is no excuse to be hiring illegal aliens instead except for pure greed on the part of the growers. There now you have your answer as to who would be willing to pick strawberries in the hot sun all day....legal immigrants! Next lame argument.....
So again it just proves those 23 million unemployed Americans aren't as qualified as the illegals who are getting the jobs instead.

Or could it be those 23 million unemployed Americans expect $30/hr for work which requires no education or training?

Oh well, sucks to be unemployed when millions of jobs are available.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#140 Apr 19, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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I for one am glad gun control was blocked. Do you think the police are going to protect you? They are the ones who just released a few thousand criminal aliens.
Immigration reform? How do they have reform for people not in the immigration system? It's amnesty.
A majority of Americans want out of Afghanistan too, how's that working out? 23 million Americans want a job too what's congress doing? Getting ready to import millions of cheap labor aliens, with benefits.
So why don't those 23 million Americans compete with the illegals for those jobs? Nothing is stopping them from working except being too lazy or stupid or uneducated or unskilled.

Sucks to be them.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#141 Apr 19, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>I would think if they want to be American citizens, then they would follow our laws and apply as the law requires. Otherwise it seems to me it is an invation not an attempt to assimilate and become citizens.
They come illegally because it takes over a decade to get approved to come legally and only a very small percentage of those who apply are ever approved.

That's what happens when a 1st world nation shares a 2500+ land border with a 3rd world nation.
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#142 Apr 19, 2013
Rem223 wrote:
Uncle of suspect: They're here 10 years.

Yep. Another flubs/sheknee post-911 beerfart.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#143 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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They come because they want to be US citizens, and their quality of life here is better than in their native country.
Same reason most other immigrants came to the US, legally or not.
You still haven't identified all those Americans who are going to pick strawberries in the hot California sun all day for $5....
Show me an illegal alien who will do it for $5.00 a day as you claim. Idiot.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#144 Apr 19, 2013
Rem223 wrote:
Wonder how many more muslim terrorists have been allowed to enter America under obamas watch.
Don't worry. Once they are granted amnesty they will no longer be called terrorists. In fact I think that the term “terrorist” like illegal alien is no long being used by the PC crowd because it offends them.
Anonymous

Payson, AZ

#145 Apr 19, 2013
"A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien."

Debate?

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#147 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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They come illegally because it takes over a decade to get approved to come legally and only a very small percentage of those who apply are ever approved.
That's what happens when a 1st world nation shares a 2500+ land border with a 3rd world nation.
It is our country, don't we get to make the rules and the laws?
chicagonut

Banning, CA

#148 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Apparently the illegals have no problem finding jobs.
Open any help wanted section in any newpaper and there are pages upon pages of job listings.
I guess the 23 million unemployed Americans are just to stupid to figure it out?
And I explained why illegals have no problem finding jobs. Are you going to just ignore that the reason is because many greedy employers just want cheap, illegal labor to increase their profits? No, the 23 million unemployed Americans have figured that out and therefore they want them deported and the employers severely punished for breaking the law. Do you get it now or are you just going to ignore and remain in denial?
chicagonut

Banning, CA

#149 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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They come illegally because it takes over a decade to get approved to come legally and only a very small percentage of those who apply are ever approved.
That's what happens when a 1st world nation shares a 2500+ land border with a 3rd world nation.
I see, so because we cant allow them all to come it's alright to come illegally then? Regardless of how it impacts our own citizens? Why do you think we have quotas for legal immigration? I sure as hell hope you aren't an American citizen with an attitude like that.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#150 Apr 19, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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And I explained why illegals have no problem finding jobs. Are you going to just ignore that the reason is because many greedy employers just want cheap, illegal labor to increase their profits? No, the 23 million unemployed Americans have figured that out and therefore they want them deported and the employers severely punished for breaking the law. Do you get it now or are you just going to ignore and remain in denial?
So the 23 million unemployed Americans are just too lazy to do the job for the going wage?

I say we cut off their unemployment welfare and maybe that will encourage them to go ocmpete with the illegals for those jobs.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#151 Apr 19, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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I see, so because we cant allow them all to come it's alright to come illegally then? Regardless of how it impacts our own citizens? Why do you think we have quotas for legal immigration? I sure as hell hope you aren't an American citizen with an attitude like that.
I never said it was okay they come in illegally. I was simply explaining WHY they come in illegally.

Personally I don't think we should allow ANY immigration, legal or otherwise. We're crowded enough already.

Unfortunately it's simply not realistic to think we're going to deport them or prevent more from coming in; not unless we get serious about enforcing our borders.
chicagonut

Banning, CA

#152 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I never said it was okay they come in illegally. I was simply explaining WHY they come in illegally.
Personally I don't think we should allow ANY immigration, legal or otherwise. We're crowded enough already.
Unfortunately it's simply not realistic to think we're going to deport them or prevent more from coming in; not unless we get serious about enforcing our borders.
As if we didn't already know why they come here illegally. Some don't even come here to work. They come to produce an instant citizen on our soil and tap into our welfare coffers and cash in on the foods stamps, free education and healthcare. So their reasons are not noble at all. Those seeking work are stealing jobs from Americans. Another non-noble thing to do.

We can remove the incentives for them to remain here or continue to come here and that is the jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship magnets. If you are so opposed to legal and illegal immigration then when do you constantly defend them in here?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#153 Apr 19, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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As if we didn't already know why they come here illegally. Some don't even come here to work. They come to produce an instant citizen on our soil and tap into our welfare coffers and cash in on the foods stamps, free education and healthcare. So their reasons are not noble at all. Those seeking work are stealing jobs from Americans. Another non-noble thing to do.
We can remove the incentives for them to remain here or continue to come here and that is the jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship magnets. If you are so opposed to legal and illegal immigration then when do you constantly defend them in here?
I defend them because they are people who are simply looking to make a better life for themselves.

They aren't to blame; our system is.

The GOPasaurs want the cheap labor.
The Dems want the votes.

We entice them to come here with a wink & a nod to border security, knowing eventually they'll get amnesty & citizenship if they stay long enough.

Neither party is willing to actually stop them from coming and once here it's impossible to get rid of them.
chicagonut

Banning, CA

#154 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I defend them because they are people who are simply looking to make a better life for themselves.
They aren't to blame; our system is.
The GOPasaurs want the cheap labor.
The Dems want the votes.
We entice them to come here with a wink & a nod to border security, knowing eventually they'll get amnesty & citizenship if they stay long enough.
Neither party is willing to actually stop them from coming and once here it's impossible to get rid of them.
Your people? Aren't Americans your people regardless of race or ethnicity? So you have a tribal mentality attitude instead which is typical of people of your culture? It is racism pure and simple when one puts their ethnic group above our immigration laws.

Please don't include loyal, lawabiding Americans in with corrupt employers and some of our politicans. So don't use the word "we".

When things get bad enough and they will soon both parties will be scrambling to get rid of them and there will be no amnesty. Read it and weep!

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