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Schumer: 'Darn good chance' of passing immigration reform

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Sen. Charles Schumer, the third ranking Senate Democrat, said Sunday that he and Republican Sen.

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Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#90 Nov 14, 2012
Cricket 23 wrote:
I read an article that said a majority of Americans approve of amnesty for the 12-20 million illegal aliens.
My question is why would Americans want to increase the voting block of Hispanic voters by 12-20 Million?
And why would anyone want to grant amnesty to 12-20 Million illegal aliens that ignored our immigration laws?
It cheapens our American Citizenship and is a slap in the face to the immigrants in other countries waiting to enter here the legal way!
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Immigrant group balks at Obama reform wording
By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News |
An advocacy group for young immigrants expressed concern Wednesday after President Barack Obama, at his first press conference in months, said he would support "a pathway for legal status" for those living in the country illegally.
That Obama used the phrase "legal status" instead of "citizenship" raised alarm bells for some deep in the weeds of immigration advocacy, since some more conservative immigration reformers think the estimated 11 million people living in the country illegally should be given legal status but not the opportunity to become citizens.
"He looked like he sidestepped around saying 'citizenship,'" said Marisol Valero, spokeswoman for United We Dream, a group that represents young people who were brought to the country illegally as children and want the opportunity to become citizens. "We are worried that the president and other leaders will not be supporting a path to citizenship for everyone."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/immigrant-...
They survey wasn't about "amnesty" it was about "a pathway to citizenship". Of course the mere question implied that there was no pathway which is a deception. There are pathways for citizenship but they refuse to take them,. Yes there are even pathways for illegals already.
See "adjusting status"
http://www.immigrationdirect.com/index.html...
The survey is slanted.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#91 Nov 14, 2012
Ralff wrote:
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They survey wasn't about "amnesty" it was about "a pathway to citizenship". Of course the mere question implied that there was no pathway which is a deception. There are pathways for citizenship but they refuse to take them,. Yes there are even pathways for illegals already.
See "adjusting status"
http://www.immigrationdirect.com/index.html...
The survey is slanted.
There are no pathways to any type of legalization let alone citizenship for people who entered the country without inspection. If they overstayed a visa they could possibly get a green card by marrying a citizen, but even that is unlikely.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

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#92 Nov 14, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
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There are no pathways to any type of legalization let alone citizenship for people who entered the country without inspection. If they overstayed a visa they could possibly get a green card by marrying a citizen, but even that is unlikely.
You are wrong. Check the link and read the newspapers, status is "adjusted" all the time.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#93 Nov 14, 2012
Bama Yankee wrote:
Don't need reform.
We need enforcement.
Reality is...... I smell another amnesty.
We may as well give our immigration laws to France or Greece. We damned sure aren't using them.
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#94 Nov 14, 2012
Bama Yankee wrote:
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That seems to be the liberal agenda.
I don't want to think that. so, I'm going to consider that maybe this guy is just too stupid to consider the consequences.

if you allow a whole country in, then, wouldn't they then be able to vote in whatever policies they see fit?

next thing you know.. these guys will start suggesting we let cuba, the dominican republic, costa rica, mexico, etc.(puerto rico) into the union.

and THEN, the hispanic would truly have a majority vote in the USA. and anything we non-hispanics have to say don't mean shit. right?

sort of like in an invasion. knock. knock. anybody home?
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#95 Nov 14, 2012
Ralff wrote:
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You are wrong. Check the link and read the newspapers, status is "adjusted" all the time.
The link was to a website that provides general immigration services. Who knows if it is legitimate, but it certainly is not definitive in any way.

It does not mention anything about legalizing the status of undocumented people. It does mention adjusting status through an I-485, but that is only useful if you are here with a legal current visa and want to apply for a green card. That is a much different thing.

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#96 Nov 14, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
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I don't want to think that. so, I'm going to consider that maybe this guy is just too stupid to consider the consequences.
if you allow a whole country in, then, wouldn't they then be able to vote in whatever policies they see fit?
next thing you know.. these guys will start suggesting we let cuba, the dominican republic, costa rica, mexico, etc.(puerto rico) into the union.
and THEN, the hispanic would truly have a majority vote in the USA. and anything we non-hispanics have to say don't mean shit. right?
sort of like in an invasion. knock. knock. anybody home?
Read up on the North American Union.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/nort...

http://www.humanevents.com/2006/06/12/bush-ad...

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#97 Nov 15, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
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I didn't realize you were "edumacated" at YouTube. That is impressive. Your family must be very proud.
Where does it say in Topix that you have to spell every word in every post correc*ly?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#98 Nov 15, 2012
Bring them all in wrote:
Obama has promised a ga-zillion jobs.

Let see all our rehomed military folks and new college grads have to compete with someone who walked through the back door to the front of the line with now personal investment in the country.
Not to worry if the illegal aliens get amnesty,the line at every welfare /unemployment/social security office will be a mile long!

And the American tax payers will foot the bill.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#99 Nov 15, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
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There are no pathways to any type of legalization let alone citizenship for people who entered the country without inspection.

If they overstayed a visa they could possibly get a green card by marrying a citizen, but even that is unlikely.
They don't have to worry with B.O. granting amnesty out of the back door of the White House!:)

Ralff

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#100 Nov 15, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
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The link was to a website that provides general immigration services. Who knows if it is legitimate, but it certainly is not definitive in any way.
It does not mention anything about legalizing the status of undocumented people. It does mention adjusting status through an I-485, but that is only useful if you are here with a legal current visa and want to apply for a green card. That is a much different thing.
Well now you are right about that, I grabbed the wrong link. Here is the official government site;

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
spud

United States

#101 Nov 15, 2012
Schumer is an idiot. Why don't we call this what it is, income redistribution. But this isn't your typical Democratic "soak the rich" redistribution. This is redistributing from Americas unemployed poor to wealthy corporations and people who are illegally in this country. Think about that.
spud

United States

#102 Nov 15, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
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There are no pathways to any type of legalization let alone citizenship for people who entered the country without inspection. If they overstayed a visa they could possibly get a green card by marrying a citizen, but even that is unlikely.
That's exactly how it should be. How would a country be smart to give preferential treatment to lawbreakers? Anyway, we're still stupidly allowing over a million legal immigrants to come here every year. Where does it end? When do we start worrying about our own unemployed? This is madness.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#103 Nov 15, 2012
Ralff wrote:
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Well now you are right about that, I grabbed the wrong link. Here is the official government site;
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
It is really the same thing here. Nothing applies to the undocumented.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#107 Nov 16, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
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It is really the same thing here. Nothing applies to the undocumented.
Read post above!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#108 Nov 16, 2012
spud wrote:
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That's exactly how it should be. How would a country be smart to give preferential treatment to lawbreakers?

Anyway, we're still stupidly allowing over a million legal immigrants to come here every year. Where does it end?

When do we start worrying about our own unemployed? This is madness.
Three Decades of Mass Immigration

The Legacy of the 1965 Immigration Act

http://www.cis.org/articles/1995/back395.pdf

1965 Immigration act, Quote: Among those who more accurately foresaw the future effects of the change in immigration law was a certain Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition, who testified at a Senate immigration subcommittee hearing:

"In light of our 5 percent unemployment rate, our worries over the so called population explosion, and our menacingly mounting welfare costs, are we prepared to embrace so great a horde of the world's unfortunates? At the very least, the hidden mathematics of the bill should be made clear to the public so that they may tell their Congressmen how they feel about providing jobs, schools, homes, security against want, citizen education, and a brotherly welcome ... for an indeterminately enormous number of aliens from underprivileged lands."

"We should remember that people accustomed to such marginal existence in their own land will tend to live fully here, to hoard our bounteous minimum wages and our humanitarian welfare handouts ... lower our wage and living standards, disrupt our cultural patterns ..."

"Whatever may be our benevolent intent toward many people,[the bill] fails to give due consideration to the economic needs, the cultural traditions, and the public sentiment of the citizens of the United States." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 681-687.)

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Hart-Celler Act hearings 1965 Quote: Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured his colleagues and the nation with the following:

"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters,[the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."

Sen. Kennedy concluded by saying,

"The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)

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