Herger will chair health panel

Full story: Chico Enterprise-Record

Rep. Wally Herger, R-Chico, this morning was named chairman of the House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Health.
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Federal wrote:
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I think it's the other way around
Good for you?

Think whatever you want. I'm betting we're both right...
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Repel

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Repel
I think you meant repeal nor repel, if so, did you know that according to the Congressional Budget Office repealing what you call "obamacare" would add 230 Billion to the deficit?

I thought you guys were all about reducing the deficit? Is that just talk? The tax cuts for millionaires also increased the defecit, and I have not heard any Republican with any power name programs they would actually cut (because when it comes down to it Voters actually like government programs and would be pissed if they were cut).
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Curtain Rod wrote:
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I think you meant repeal nor repel, if so, did you know that according to the Congressional Budget Office repealing what you call "obamacare" would add 230 Billion to the deficit?
I thought you guys were all about reducing the deficit? Is that just talk? The tax cuts for millionaires also increased the defecit, and I have not heard any Republican with any power name programs they would actually cut (because when it comes down to it Voters actually like government programs and would be **** if they were cut).
The cost over time will be greater than that. Obamacare was a bad idea, one that should have never passed. The Democrats went against the will of the people and forced it down our throats. It's unfortunate it will cost 203 billion to repeal it, but it must be done.

How much money did the Democrats waste in frivilous spending bills and the passing of healthcare bill that lacked majority support by the people? This past mid-term election was a wake-up call to the Democrats. Listen to the people and what we want, healthcare reform as is it was imposed was not wanted.

I thought you Democrats represented the people? But that is only if they are a union interest, ACORN or some other corrupt organization.

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The cost over time will be greater than that. Obamacare was a bad idea, one that should have never passed. The Democrats went against the will of the people and forced it down our throats. It's unfortunate it will cost 203 billion to repeal it, but it must be done.
Good post - with one correction.

That cost is a result of scoring by the CBO with parameters provided by the democrats.

The big picture is this - the democrats want us to believe we can add 30 million people to what is essentially medicare and it's going to cost us less.

Remember they were going to pay for ObamaCare by taking $500 billion in "waste" out of medicare. This claim even resided on Nancy Pelosi's website for quite some time.

When curtain says "people like their government programs and taking them away will make them angry" - he actually gets this part right. Yes, people love getting stuff paid for by someone else and they will throw fits when they are taken away - but its just too bad - we're out of money.

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Obamacare wrote:
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The cost over time will be greater than that. Obamacare was a bad idea, one that should have never passed. The Democrats went against the will of the people and forced it down our throats. It's unfortunate it will cost 203 billion to repeal it, but it must be done.
How much money did the Democrats waste in frivilous spending bills and the passing of healthcare bill that lacked majority support by the people? This past mid-term election was a wake-up call to the Democrats. Listen to the people and what we want, healthcare reform as is it was imposed was not wanted.
I thought you Democrats represented the people? But that is only if they are a union interest, ACORN or some other corrupt organization.
So the 46% of people that favor repeal (according to Gallup) should get their way even though I'm sure most of them will in one way or another will unwittingly benefit from Healthcare Reform? There are 40% that want it to stand 'as is' and 14% undecided. Wouldn't you say repeal lacks 'majority support' or do you have difficulty computing the percentages, thinking that less than half is a majority?

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The cost over time will be greater than that. Obamacare was a bad idea, one that should have never passed. The Democrats went against the will of the people and forced it down our throats. It's unfortunate it will cost 203 billion to repeal it, but it must be done.
I don't think you understand why repealing it will add 230 billion to the deficit. It is because that is how much "obamacare" as only a Republican would call it, will save our government 230 Billion Dollars, in other words it will reduce the deficit by 230 billion dollars over its alternatives. With that in mind IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REPEALED AT ALL and it seems that it is the Democrats who are being more fiscally responsible.

And by the way it absolutely was not "passed against the will of the people", in fact it was passed democratically through both houses of congress,in the manner proscribed in the constitution, voted on by the people we elected to represent us and signed into law by the president who promised this kind of health care reform and whom the majority of Americans voted for in the last presidential election.

Obamacare was absolutely not "passed against the will of the people", it was the will of the majority of the people.
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Federal wrote:
You know ... we can give ol Wally all the smack he deserves but what bothers me is the truth.
You lame idiots will vote him in another term
next election. It makes me want to puke!
You would think that after 13 terms people would catch on. Apparently not a very bright batch (or woefully apathetic).
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Curtain Rod wrote:
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I don't think you understand why repealing it will add 230 billion to the deficit. It is because that is how much "obamacare" as only a Republican would call it, will save our government 230 Billion Dollars, in other words it will reduce the deficit by 230 billion dollars over its alternatives. With that in mind IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REPEALED AT ALL and it seems that it is the Democrats who are being more fiscally responsible.
And by the way it absolutely was not "passed against the will of the people", in fact it was passed democratically through both houses of congress,in the manner proscribed in the constitution, voted on by the people we elected to represent us and signed into law by the president who promised this kind of health care reform and whom the majority of Americans voted for in the last presidential election.
Obamacare was absolutely not "passed against the will of the people", it was the will of the majority of the people.
Sure the will of the elected Democrat party who saw their reign coming to an end at the mid-term elections so they forced it down our throats. Not one respectable poll of the American people showed majority favor of healthcare. But you keep believing the progressive lies and following that path, next election we will have real change.
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So the 46% of people that favor repeal (according to Gallup) should get their way even though I'm sure most of them will in one way or another will unwittingly benefit from Healthcare Reform? There are 40% that want it to stand 'as is' and 14% undecided. Wouldn't you say repeal lacks 'majority support' or do you have difficulty computing the percentages, thinking that less than half is a majority?
Why not? Less than that number supported it prior to it's approval and you, the Democrates, didn't care and forced it through.

Funny how the Democrats change the rules when they are not in power. Pelosi for example, when in power she always claimed the Republicans had just better get on board. Now that she is the minority she is crying for bi-partisanship, typical.

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Sure the will of the elected Democrat party who saw their reign coming to an end at the mid-term elections so they forced it down our throats. Not one respectable poll of the American people showed majority favor of healthcare. But you keep believing the progressive lies and following that path, next election we will have real change.
It was passed through both houses of congress and signed by the president in the exact same manner as every other bill that has ever become law has done. NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.

And your point about the polls is faulty, you are right that no poll showed a majority of people in favor of this particular bill that is not because the majority of people did not want health care reform. If you look at the numbers, which you clearly didn't you would see that many of those who were not happy with this bill were not happy because they wanted a public option, in other words they wanted MORE REFORM NOT LESS.

It is utterly ridiculous of you to say that this bill was "shoved down the peoples throats" however, because this bill, like every other bill in our history, was passed in the manner proscribed in the constituion by the people we elect to represent us.

If this bill was "rammed down our throats" so was every other bill ever passed and signed into law. You know damn well that is not the case, perhaps you ought to speak for yourself and stop parroting right wing propaganda.
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Americans overwhelmingly want and would like either single payer or universal heath coverage as seen in these three polls by CBS, ABC, and CNN.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-492373...

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/us/heal...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/po...
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Repeal means

Insurance companies can deny you with pre-existing conditions.

Limit how much they will spend on you in a year.

Drop your coverage any time they feel like it.

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Repeal wil add 230 Billion dollars to the defecit.

mean 32 million more Americans will be uninsured than currently are.

And will mean private health insurance premiums for everyone who has it wil rise.

----Congressional Budget Office.

Why in the world would anyone, Republican or not, support that?
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He's a fat-cat Republican who has lifetime health benefits as well as income for representing the wealthy. I'm sure "HergerCare" will be deep with compassion (not). I guess if he's never voted out of office, eventually he will die of old age.

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It was passed through both houses of congress and signed by the president in the exact same manner as every other bill that has ever become law has done. NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.
And your point about the polls is faulty, you are right that no poll showed a majority of people in favor of this particular bill that is not because the majority of people did not want health care reform. If you look at the numbers, which you clearly didn't you would see that many of those who were not happy with this bill were not happy because they wanted a public option, in other words they wanted MORE REFORM NOT LESS.
It is utterly ridiculous of you to say that this bill was "shoved down the peoples throats" however, because this bill, like every other bill in our history, was passed in the manner proscribed in the constituion by the people we elect to represent us.
If this bill was "rammed down our throats" so was every other bill ever passed and signed into law. You know damn well that is not the case, perhaps you ought to speak for yourself and stop parroting right wing propaganda.
I have to agree with you on this one Rod. The polls were worded in a way that anyone would be contrived to oppose. Fox News polls were so biased and were strategically presented in such a way that 50 % of America's unintelligent people, or those that just "blindly follow" would get behind them. Rupert's money and his hate for Obama led the charge. Boehner is a drunk and does what the corporations order him to do.

Just listening to them for the last two years screaming about the spending and bankrupting our nation was quickly forgotten when the wealthy got their tax cuts at a cost of 700 billion more. And now they want to repeal Obamacare at a tune for another 230 billion more. Let's see now. In just three weeks the Republicans have spent just short of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS to be added to the deficit. When are dumb voters going to wake up. Until you get rid of campaign contributions, this country will never begin to heal. BOTH PARTIES ARE EXTREMELY CORRUPT. Ah but alas, who cares? It will never effect me. I got mine suckers!
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Joe Sixpack wrote:
If Wally hates health insurance, then he should practice what he preaches and GIVE UP HIS GOVERNMENT HEALTH INSURANCE. Come on, Wally, be a positive role model. GIVE BACK YOUR GOVERNMENT HEALTH INSURANCE. Do it!
wally, please tell everyone how much money the HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY has paid you off.
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hey, are all you tea people going to refuse your
government health care insurance, i mean "MEDICARE"

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