Letter: Herger does little for education

Loretta Torres, in her recent letter, defends Wally Herger for his predictable "no" vote on HR 1586, the Education Jobs and Medicaid Assistance Act. Full Story
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Try Common Sense

Chico, CA

#21 Sep 10, 2010
"Just out of curiousity, I don't get how Republicans can say "you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it" when it comes to education or any other spending by the government, but then when it comes to business things, you say "it takes money to make money".
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I will explain it to you.
#1 The CUSD does not make money.
#2 Businesses make money.
#3 Paying teachers more money does not improve education. If it does, then teachers have been holding back haven't they?
#4 No business can hire people if they don't make money. The more you tax them the less money they have to invest and hire.
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Understand now?
Spitfire

Paradise, CA

#22 Sep 10, 2010
Try Common Sense wrote:
"Just out of curiousity, I don't get how Republicans can say "you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it" when it comes to education or any other spending by the government, but then when it comes to business things, you say "it takes money to make money".
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I will explain it to you.
#1 The CUSD does not make money.
#2 Businesses make money.
#3 Paying teachers more money does not improve education. If it does, then teachers have been holding back haven't they?
#4 No business can hire people if they don't make money. The more you tax them the less money they have to invest and hire.
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Understand now?
But you have no problem with Wally Herger voting to give billions and billions in incentives to the oil and pharmacutical companies, amongst others, even when these corporations are making billions in record profits.

Herger is a corporate pimp, bought and paid for. How can you possibly deny that?

He doesn't represent you, the working man. He represents millionaires.
Try Common Sense

Chico, CA

#23 Sep 10, 2010
"But you have no problem with Wally Herger voting to give billions and billions in incentives to the oil and pharmacutical companies"
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Care to show everyone where I said that?
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"Herger is a corporate pimp, bought and paid for."
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Many of us work for corporations, we can't all feed at the public teat. I don't know anyone who works for a welfare recipient. Do you work for minimum wage/no benefits at one of the downtown storefronts?
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Your friend George Soros owns a corporation, so does Oprah, are they pimps too?
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So who are you going to vote for if not Herger?
Voice of the People

United States

#24 Sep 10, 2010
Joe Sixpack wrote:
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Gee, excuse me if I'm wrong, but I believe Awwwhnie is one of your people, i.e., Republic Party. And of course your people have a blocking minority in the Legislature. Oh, but gee, sure, blame the Democrat Party, blame the Easter Bunny too.
I have been reading your comments for months. YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! You must have been taught in the Chico School system. You need to get off the CRANK, WEED, WELFARE, and YOUR SISTER. Please get a job! Drugs have damaged your mind!
Republocrat

Chico, CA

#25 Sep 10, 2010
Joe Sixpack wrote:
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Gee, excuse me if I'm wrong, but I believe Awwwhnie is one of your people, i.e., Republic Party. And of course your people have a blocking minority in the Legislature. Oh, but gee, sure, blame the Democrat Party, blame the Easter Bunny too.
Why are you blaming republicans then? Doesn't look like your party is doing much either. Hypocrit.
SHORTY

Hayward, CA

#26 Sep 10, 2010
Voice of the People wrote:
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I have been reading your comments for months. YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! You must have been taught in the Chico School system. You need to get off the CRANK, WEED, WELFARE, and YOUR SISTER. Please get a job! Drugs have damaged your mind!
senor,
I got a job for you
you just the type
are you **********
Joe Sixpack

Chico, CA

#27 Sep 11, 2010
Voice of the People wrote:
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I have been reading your comments for months. YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! You must have been taught in the Chico School system. You need to get off the CRANK, WEED, WELFARE, and YOUR SISTER. Please get a job! Drugs have damaged your mind!
You're just mad because I can out-write, out-think and outwit you and so many other slow-witted Republic Party hillbilly freaks like you, Dumya, St. Raygun and Wally the Wanker Herger.
ignorant redneck

Durham, CA

#28 Sep 11, 2010
if anyone had brains around here, they'd VOTE JIM REED in this november. check out his website: http://www.reednow.com/
Republocrat

United States

#29 Sep 11, 2010
Joe Sixpack wrote:
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You're just mad because I can out-write, out-think and outwit you and so many other slow-witted Republic Party hillbilly freaks like you, Dumya, St. Raygun and Wally the Wanker Herger.
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Actually we are afraid because their are more wack jobs like you out there.
Curtain Rod

Williams, CA

#30 Sep 13, 2010
Try Common Sense wrote:
"Just out of curiousity, I don't get how Republicans can say "you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it" when it comes to education or any other spending by the government, but then when it comes to business things, you say "it takes money to make money".
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I will explain it to you.
#1 The CUSD does not make money.
#2 Businesses make money.
#3 Paying teachers more money does not improve education. If it does, then teachers have been holding back haven't they?
#4 No business can hire people if they don't make money. The more you tax them the less money they have to invest and hire.
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Understand now?
In the 1950's and 60's California was near the top in per capita spending on education (all the way up until prop 13 passed in the 70's actually, and we were also at the top in terms of educational outcomes.
No school districts do not make money, but that is not the point is it? The state of California and the people of California make more money as a result of a good quality education system then they do from a bad one.
For, example it is no example that Silocone Valley (argueably the Computer tech capital of the world) came about in California. At the time that all that happened and started the people behind it were the product of the best education system in the country, and other companies chose to settle here because places like the bay area gave them access to a large pool of Highly educated potential employees. That pool is dwindleing and those companies are moving.

Here is a counter example. I know a country that practices what you preach. They do not collect much in the way of taxes, What they do collect they spend mostly on the Military. They do not spend much at all on the types of things you don't like government spending money on like education, social welfare, and infrastructure. Most of the schools are run by the church and they teach religion, etc. etc.

It is called Guatemala, and it is practically impossible for ANYBODY to make money there because you can't hire well educated employees there are not many around to hire, it is expensive to deliver your goods because the roads are so bad, the poverty is far more "generational" than it is here because even kids that are willing to work their asses off can't get a good education and are lucky if they can stay in school, often they have to drop out at a young age to take some meager job to help the family put food on the table, because their is no school lunch program, no food stamps, etc.

It takes money to make money, and if you want the best you have got to pay for it, and no matter what self serving Republicans try to argue, Investing in quality education and infrastructure IS ALWAYS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
Curtain Rod

Williams, CA

#31 Sep 13, 2010
Oops....I guess I should finish my coffee before I post.

Mid way through the first paragraph it says, " it is no example that Silicon valley...."

Should say " no conicidence"
bluffian

United States

#32 Sep 14, 2010
I work in education and believe that it is one of the most important tasks of a government. That said, I support Mr. Herger's no vote, for several reasons:

A) The federal government does not have the money, and to hand out more borrowed money impoverishes the future of our country, hardly an investment.

B) The federal government's bailing out of states like California does not help the states to address their problems, but rather helps them to avoid facing the consequences of their actions. In 2006, California was flush with money and pouring it into schools - not saving for a rainy day. That is poor governance, and while understandable (it helps you to get re-elected in the good times), it is not wise - recessions are a regular and permanent fact of life.

C)There is still plenty of money in education, without the bailout. The problem, oftentimes, is what it is spent on. For more than $5000 per student, there is sufficient money, if it is well spent. But if too much is siphoned off in Sacramento, and then by the county, and then in the district office, and then by the administration... then it might be too little. But pouring more water into a bucket riddled with gaping holes is not the way to fill a bucket.

So I'm thankful the congressman voted no - I didn't vote for him to pander to me by bringing home more pork that wasn't paid for, and that my kids and grandkids will be footing the bill for.

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