GOP members changing a bill they neve...

GOP members changing a bill they never read?

There are 13 comments on the The Paradise Post story from Nov 13, 2010, titled GOP members changing a bill they never read?. In it, The Paradise Post reports that:

NEW GOP MEMBERS in Congress have been saying that one of their priorities is going to be repealing the president's health care legislation - often derided as "Obamacare." Much has been made of the bill's length - 2,000 pages - and GOP lawmakers often have said, they don't know of any Democrats that voted for the bill who have read the entire 2,000 ...

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Since: Jan 08

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#2 Nov 14, 2010
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the hastily passed health care law has more pages in it than the entire Holy Bible? That should be cause enough to toss it out and start from square one. But because it may have a few pages of good in it doesn't justify the whole.
So it's not rocket science. And it should have never been passed in the strictly blind, partisan way that it was, especially when it made a total liar out of the President.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

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#5 Nov 14, 2010
(from the article)
Republicans made it clear yesterday they will not compromise on a temporary extension of the Bush tax cuts. Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Rep. Cantor said he is not in favor of the White House approach to compromise decoupling the rates for the top 2 percent and allowing them to expire early.(Seattle Times) Republicans are apparently threatening to throw tax cuts away for 98 percent of the taxpayers in order to protect the top 2 percent. The GOP is making sure it lives up to the adage of the "rich man's party."
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huh.
so what is it that they said they would do?

Since: Sep 10

Canton, OH

#8 Nov 14, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the hastily passed health care law has more pages in it than the entire Holy Bible? That should be cause enough to toss it out and start from square one. But because it may have a few pages of good in it doesn't justify the whole.
So it's not rocket science. And it should have never been passed in the strictly blind, partisan way that it was, especially when it made a total liar out of the President.
Strange that this number of pages is so scary to the Tea-party people. If the health care bill was printed in the same font style and letter size as Harry Potter novels it would be smaller than those books read by fourth graders. Even if they are not as smart as fifth graders.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

United States

#9 Nov 14, 2010
If Obamacare is so good for all then why is the HHS granting waivers from annual limit requirements for certain companies and unions. That the government is allowing waivers indicates that Obamacare is flawed. If some individuals are allowed waivers then shouldn't all individuals be allowed the same waiver? If it is good for the goose it is good for the gander.

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved...

Many GOP congressmen, and private citizens, did read all 2000 pages of Obamacare, that is how we know all the horrors that are about to befall us. Betsy McCaughey did read the entire bill and has a good analysis here.
http://defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html
KMA

Chico, CA

#10 Nov 16, 2010
Sam Lowree wrote:
If Obamacare is so good for all then why is the HHS granting waivers from annual limit requirements for certain companies and unions. That the government is allowing waivers indicates that Obamacare is flawed. If some individuals are allowed waivers then shouldn't all individuals be allowed the same waiver? If it is good for the goose it is good for the gander.
http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved...
Many GOP congressmen, and private citizens, did read all 2000 pages of Obamacare, that is how we know all the horrors that are about to befall us. Betsy McCaughey did read the entire bill and has a good analysis here.
http://defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html
This is the exact reason the dems pushed this bill through as fast as they could in the dark of night. Shady tactics and not the TRANSPARENCY Obama promised us. They knew it would not pass public approval if they gave ANYBODY the time to read it through.

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#11 Nov 17, 2010
Sam Lowree wrote:
If Obamacare is so good for all then why is the HHS granting waivers from annual limit requirements for certain companies and unions. That the government is allowing waivers indicates that Obamacare is flawed. If some individuals are allowed waivers then shouldn't all individuals be allowed the same waiver? If it is good for the goose it is good for the gander.
http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved...
Many GOP congressmen, and private citizens, did read all 2000 pages of Obamacare, that is how we know all the horrors that are about to befall us. Betsy McCaughey did read the entire bill and has a good analysis here.
http://defendyourhealthcare.us/home.html
Exactly right, IF Obamacare is such a great idea, WHY are the BIG UNIONS and other special interests getting waivers to opt out? Time for all of us to OPT OUT by repealing Obamacare altogether!

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

United States

#12 Nov 17, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly right, IF Obamacare is such a great idea, WHY are the BIG UNIONS and other special interests getting waivers to opt out? Time for all of us to OPT OUT by repealing Obamacare altogether!
With numerous companies dropping employees from medical coverage and the employees now having to pay or more of their coverage while receiving less coverage, repealing Obamacare is the only option we have. The cuts haven't even begun for Medicare yet, soon Medicare will pay the same rates to docs and hospitals as Medical. More and more doctors and hospitals are refusing to see Medical patients and soon Medicare patients will follow.

Oh, and did you hear the Lefts' favourite economist, Krugman, stated that death panels and sales tax would be necessary to balance the budget. And the Left jumped up and down when Palin said that there were death panels in Obamacare.
Conservaturds

Lihue, HI

#13 Nov 17, 2010
This is fraking great!!! The fiscally irresponsible Republicans have not only announced their intention to repeal health care reform, but these idiots don't even know what they're opposing. I mean really? Don't we pay them enough with OUR TAX DOLLARS to read and write legislation??? Granted 2000 pages might be hard for, say, one representative to read by his/herself, but don't they have staff???(also paid for with OUR TAX DOLLARS).

Remember the rallying cry of the Republican's and their Tea Party who've vowed during the election to control costs,reduce spending, and reduce the deficit, so we don't pass on massive debt to our kids. Well these idiots have yet to be seated but already, they plan on adding $889 billion dollars to our national debt.$889,000,000,000!!! The GOP has outlined two of their top priorities:(1) Extend tax cuts for the wealthy which will cost $700 billion and (2) repeal a health care reform bill (they apparently haven't even read) which will put back $189 billion to our national debt. Now, unlike Fox, I didn't pull those figure's out of thin air. These are actual numbers from the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office. Meanwhile the GOP has been unable to explain in ANY detail what spending cuts will be made to offset this rise in our debt. Sounds like America has been sold a bill of goods again by the same GOP that screwed up America the last time they had control in Government!

Think about it! If tax breaks for the wealthy were soooooooo goooood for this country, then why after almost ten years, is our economy recovering from one of the worst recessions in our nations history. And where is all that economic prosperity that was supposed to trickle down to those making less than $250,000/yr.

And as for repeal of health care reform, does anyone want to go back to yearly/lifetime maximums on their health coverage? Did anyone really enjoy being dropped from coverage by an insurance company despite being a regular paying customer after they became too expensive to cover???

Is the feeling sinking in yet that Americans may have made a mistake in allowing Republicans to take over the house??? Well, if it hasn't yet, it soon will? Learn from the mistake and don't make it again in 2012!!!
Bah

Moraga, CA

#14 Nov 17, 2010
I think the tax structure should revert to the old rates for everyone. Right now I get about $0.60 for every dollar I "earn" per hour. BFD!!!!!!!!!!

I have all the beer I can drink and a roof to keep the rain out. What is a few percentage point going to mean to me? Not a gd thing. I would much rather my children and grandchildren live in a financially sound country than one that is mortgaged to the hilt to the Chinese.

Get ready to meet the new landlord, his name is Wong.
Conservaturds

Lihue, HI

#15 Nov 18, 2010
We've been trying tax cuts for the past decade! Our economy nearly collapsed, we are on the verge of becoming another Greece/Ireland, and if we don't turn it around soon, we'll be a wholly owned province of China. Let all the Bush tax cuts expire! Maybe then we'll start taking in enough money to pay down our national debt.
Tony

Bradenton, FL

#16 Nov 18, 2010
why do dems have NO PROBLEM with bribing a bill into law that as never read.....

but, now have a problem with changing a bill that was never read.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

United States

#17 Nov 18, 2010
Conservaturds wrote:
We've been trying tax cuts for the past decade! Our economy nearly collapsed, we are on the verge of becoming another Greece/Ireland, and if we don't turn it around soon, we'll be a wholly owned province of China. Let all the Bush tax cuts expire! Maybe then we'll start taking in enough money to pay down our national debt.
If the current tax rates are allowed to increase you will have the Obama tax increase, the biggest in U.S. history, at a time when our economy is still very shaky. It wasn't the tax cuts that destroyed the economy it was governmental policies that caused the housing bubble which burst and caused all the turmoil with the financial institutions. This downturn in the economy can more accurately be called the Frank/Dodd collapse due to their involvement in the policies that led to the housing bubble and their ignoring the problem when the GOP brought the troubles with Fannie and Freddie to the forefront.

Some economists blame the start of the recession on high fuel prices a couple years ago which leads to higher consumer prices in every market, there were layoffs and soon many working class Americans were unable to afford their mortgages. As always with government mismanagement and higher taxes it is not the politicians and wealthy who are hurt, it is the average person who pays the highest price. Who is to blame for high fuel prices in America, the EPA and the enviromentalists.

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#18 Nov 18, 2010
Conservaturds wrote:
We've been trying tax cuts for the past decade! Our economy nearly collapsed, we are on the verge of becoming another Greece/Ireland, and if we don't turn it around soon, we'll be a wholly owned province of China. Let all the Bush tax cuts expire! Maybe then we'll start taking in enough money to pay down our national debt.
Your fractured view of history is apalling to say the least! You should study why Greece is in the spot it's in today. Perhaps you should look at the states that have (until this last election) been 'blue' states. They are the ones facing the most trouble with their economies due to their top heavy governments.

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