Whitman, Twain, and Wally the Weasel

Whitman, Twain, and Wally the Weasel

There are 74 comments on the The Paradise Post story from Oct 30, 2010, titled Whitman, Twain, and Wally the Weasel. In it, The Paradise Post reports that:

Several months ago, I wrote a cover piece for the Chico News and Review entitled "Why Twain Still Matters," a re-examination of that great writer's contribution to defining American values.

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Clueful

Menlo Park, CA

#1 Oct 30, 2010
This is one of the dumbest articles you have written O'Neil. It's a last ditch effort to somehow sway the voters of Butte County, but it just falls flat on its face.

Whitman's maid was a FRAUD you foolish man. Look that word up Mr. English teacher. The ILLEGAL alien commited fraud against the US Government with an illegal S.S.card. She should be put in prison, then sent packing back to wherever she came. The slimeball Jerry Brown doesn't have the cajones to even deport the ILLEGAL alien (as his current job requires) because the ILLEGAL alienis apparently part of his election campaign team. The waste of skin, Gloria Allred probably got paid well by the Brown team to pull such a foolish stunt. It shows the lengths a corrupt lifetime politician like Jerry Brown will go to to become Governor.

If I had an employee that lied on their application, I'd fire them immediately. If a student was found to have cheated (fraud) on all their tests in your remedial English class, would you pass them, or fail them? I guess you would be COLD if you failed them, and would probably give them a passing grade. RIGHT???

O'Neil, your hatred for Republicans is about as intense as our worthless president's hatred is, with Hussein Obama calling fellow Americans that don't agree with his policies "The Enemy". Your hatred clouds your thought process to the point of not making any common sense. I think you don't believe half of what you write, because you would have to be mentally ill to do so. Maybe you are mentally ill, so you have nothing to worry about... you have an excuse. Move to France Jaime.
Scholar

Elmira, CA

#2 Oct 30, 2010
"...Meg Whitman abandoned a woman who'd swabbed her toilets and cooked her food for nine years. With millions in resources, Meg Whitman was completely indifferent to the fate of a woman she'd known as a human being within the walls of her own home."

"ABANDONED"??? Whitman was her EMPLOYER. Employers and employees in this state are free to discontinue employment whenever they please. If the Post fired you after all this time, it would constitute a rare display of common sense, not "abandonment."

If Meg had fired her for whatever reason after 12 months, you'd never have heard a word of this. But she provided this woman with employment for nearly a decade. If it's your belief that employers have long-term obligations to employees, doesn't a 9-year employment stint seem exceptional in today's workplace?? Why not pat Meg on the back for such "commitment"?

Let's say Huck had employed Nicky for 9 years. I think he'd be smart enough to see that firing her would NOT condemn her to a life of slavery but would send her on her way with a solid job reference. He'd understand that unlike JIM, NICKY CHOSE to enter the country illegally and CHOSE to remain employed with Whitman for all that time. Huck understood that abandoning Jim could mean a future of whips and chains. But it would be clear to Huck that Nicky would be able to find work elsewhere (you know - the work no Americans want to do) that involved no physical abuse and included a paycheck, or that she could return unimpeded to her family and her homeland where she could live out her years as she pleased.

What makes this distinction so tough for you, Jaime? That you equate slavery with the relative free ride that illegals have in this country only minimizes the horrors of slavery and is utter nonsense.

And you know what else?? This state has a LOT more to worry about than Nicky Diaz and Huck Finn. Some pre-election commentary YOURS is! Do you really think voters need to concern themselves with Huck, Jim and Nicky?

Wouldn't a column on Jerry Brown's darling ROSE BIRD be far more relevant?

I would urge voters to read your column if only to familiarize themselves with the mindset of insanity that characterizes the left's approach to this election.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

United States

#3 Oct 30, 2010
Trying to stir up racial unrest again oneil. It seems like you are a little late in coming to the story of Whitmans' maid who entered the country illegally, obtained an SSI number illegally and lied to her employer. And you think Whitman should have ignored all the illegal activity? The maid scammed the U.S government and Whitman.

If Whitman did as you would have liked then the Left would have been all over her for being an accomplice to a crime.
jaime

Chico, CA

#4 Oct 30, 2010
Scholar wrote:
"...Meg Whitman abandoned a woman who'd swabbed her toilets and cooked her food for nine years. With millions in resources, Meg Whitman was completely indifferent to the fate of a woman she'd known as a human being within the walls of her own home."
"ABANDONED"??? Whitman was her EMPLOYER. Employers and employees in this state are free to discontinue employment whenever they please. If the Post fired you after all this time, it would constitute a rare display of common sense, not "abandonment."
If Meg had fired her for whatever reason after 12 months, you'd never have heard a word of this. But she provided this woman with employment for nearly a decade. If it's your belief that employers have long-term obligations to employees, doesn't a 9-year employment stint seem exceptional in today's workplace?? Why not pat Meg on the back for such "commitment"?
Let's say Huck had employed Nicky for 9 years. I think he'd be smart enough to see that firing her would NOT condemn her to a life of slavery but would send her on her way with a solid job reference. He'd understand that unlike JIM, NICKY CHOSE to enter the country illegally and CHOSE to remain employed with Whitman for all that time. Huck understood that abandoning Jim could mean a future of whips and chains. But it would be clear to Huck that Nicky would be able to find work elsewhere (you know - the work no Americans want to do) that involved no physical abuse and included a paycheck, or that she could return unimpeded to her family and her homeland where she could live out her years as she pleased.
What makes this distinction so tough for you, Jaime? That you equate slavery with the relative free ride that illegals have in this country only minimizes the horrors of slavery and is utter nonsense.
And you know what else?? This state has a LOT more to worry about than Nicky Diaz and Huck Finn. Some pre-election commentary YOURS is! Do you really think voters need to concern themselves with Huck, Jim and Nicky?
Wouldn't a column on Jerry Brown's darling ROSE BIRD be far more relevant?
I would urge voters to read your column if only to familiarize themselves with the mindset of insanity that characterizes the left's approach to this election.
You write about "the relative free ride illegals have in this country," Scholar. I wonder if you'd like to take that ride for even a single day, to trade your privileged circumstances for theirs for even 24 hours. This "free ride" notion of yours is beyond delusional, but it does explain the simple heartlessness of the view of people you share with Whitman.
Meg Whitman can spend millions on her personal ambition, but she can't spend a buck to help a woman who worked for her in the most personal of ways for nine years. You can't grasp a really simple human point here, Scholar. Of all the things you've posted, this may be your most glaring example of your inability to make simple distinctions, and to see the human equation in things. The only thing scholarly about you seems to be your penchant for juggling facts and figures while missing the point.
Stephen Rose

Chico, CA

#5 Oct 30, 2010
Clueful wrote:
O'Neil, your hatred for Republicans is about as intense as our worthless president's hatred is, with Hussein Obama calling fellow Americans that don't agree with his policies "The Enemy". Your hatred clouds your thought process to the point of not making any common sense. I think you don't believe half of what you write, because you would have to be mentally ill to do so. Maybe you are mentally ill, so you have nothing to worry about... you have an excuse. Move to France Jaime.
Interesting how you and your compadres talk about anyone on the left hating (that's such a "liberal" trait) in general, but specifically, hating Republicans. There are plenty of reasons why the majority of Americans, including many in the Republican Party (why a need for a Tea Party?) feel animosity towards this party. Eight disastrous years of Cheney/Bush leaving the nation on its knees, and then another twenty months of saying No to all attempts to right things, with the new platform of destroying Obama replacing any agenda to really fix things. Yeah, the Republicans have earned any and all hatred turned in their direction.
And you say Obama hates? Really? I haven't seen him hate anyone. The only real criticism I have of the man that is he is too kind to his opponents in politics, the real haters, the ones causing him to try so hard to follow our traditional political principles of attempting to compromise with the other side, a side that has said they have no intention of compromising. Compromising is for sissies! Real Republicans don't compromise -- Period!
And of course the right doesn't hate -- COUGH! Let's use those ole "Second Amendment remedies" (Sharron angle) if we don't get duly elected. Yeah, how's that for democracy? And let's be sure to incite violence at the drop of a hat, and stomp on the heads of female activists (Rand Paul) we don't like, hit a woman at a town hall meeting, and throw a man and his family out of a restaurant to question the man representing their district (Eric Cantor) at a meeting they had already RSVPed, and threaten (Christine O'Donnell) to "crush" a radio station because they are asking tough questions. And, let's make sure to run from the "real" media whenever they approach with valid questions for people running for high office. Hell, we'll just call them the lamestream media, not the media that represents the vast majority of true Americans. The right has the correct idea. "We want the press to report the news the way we want it reported." -- Sharron Angle. The extreme right just doesn't seem to get that THEY are the ones way out of the mainstream, not the other way around. Most Americans think they are nuts!
The Republicans and Tea Party are looking like nothing more than 21st Century fascists and thugs, the brown shirts of our time. Let's control (Fox) or avoid the media, and use violence at our meetings if people get in our way. Those are the first and true earmarks of fascism. I can't possibly understand why anyone might hate, or even dislike such people.
Give us more of that "old time religion" and those "compassionate conservatives!" Yeah!
Greg P

United States

#6 Oct 30, 2010
Stephen Rose wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting how you and your compadres talk about anyone on the left hating (that's such a "liberal" trait) in general, but specifically, hating Republicans. There are plenty of reasons why the majority of Americans, including many in the Republican Party (why a need for a Tea Party?) feel animosity towards this party. Eight disastrous years of Cheney/Bush leaving the nation on its knees, and then another twenty months of saying No to all attempts to right things, with the new platform of destroying Obama replacing any agenda to really fix things. Yeah, the Republicans have earned any and all hatred turned in their direction.
And you say Obama hates? Really? I haven't seen him hate anyone. The only real criticism I have of the man that is he is too kind to his opponents in politics, the real haters, the ones causing him to try so hard to follow our traditional political principles of attempting to compromise with the other side, a side that has said they have no intention of compromising. Compromising is for sissies! Real Republicans don't compromise -- Period!
And of course the right doesn't hate -- COUGH! Let's use those ole "Second Amendment remedies" (Sharron angle) if we don't get duly elected. Yeah, how's that for democracy? And let's be sure to incite violence at the drop of a hat, and stomp on the heads of female activists (Rand Paul) we don't like, hit a woman at a town hall meeting, and throw a man and his family out of a restaurant to question the man representing their district (Eric Cantor) at a meeting they had already RSVPed, and threaten (Christine O'Donnell) to "crush" a radio station because they are asking tough questions. And, let's make sure to run from the "real" media whenever they approach with valid questions for people running for high office. Hell, we'll just call them the lamestream media, not the media that represents the vast majority of true Americans. The right has the correct idea. "We want the press to report the news the way we want it reported." -- Sharron Angle. The extreme right just doesn't seem to get that THEY are the ones way out of the mainstream, not the other way around. Most Americans think they are nuts!
The Republicans and Tea Party are looking like nothing more than 21st Century fascists and thugs, the brown shirts of our time. Let's control (Fox) or avoid the media, and use violence at our meetings if people get in our way. Those are the first and true earmarks of fascism. I can't possibly understand why anyone might hate, or even dislike such people.
Give us more of that "old time religion" and those "compassionate conservatives!" Yeah!
With Obama calling the majority (63%) of America "The Enemy" is enough reason to bring him up on sedition charges and prosecuted. No wonder his approval rating is a dismal 37%. He's the most devisive president we've ever had, period.

!!!!!!!Impeach Obama, Impeach Obama, Impeach Obama!!!!!!!!

Jerry Brown not prosecuting Meg Whitman's maid for fraud and being illegally in this country should be enough reason see he is a spineless bum, and isn't qualified to run California.
Your Dad

Chico, CA

#7 Oct 30, 2010
The only "weasel" in this town is YOU, Oh Kneel, and you KNOW it. Miscreant, malcontent, activist agitators like you just prove their childish immaturity every time you scribble your inanities..geez, will you EVER grow up?
NimshewB

Oroville, CA

#9 Oct 30, 2010
Right on the $$ Jaime and Rose. Thanks
Allan

United States

#10 Oct 30, 2010
This is a stroke of genius to equate Huck Finn's angst over the Fugitive Slave law and Meg Whitman's ordeal with the housekeeper. Bravo! And now Meg calls for the housekeeper's deportation? Better to have said, "this is exactly why we need a guest worker program".

No wonder Meg keeps falling off the abyss in the polls.

As for Herger? O'Neill does it again. Makes me sick to see Herger taking the credit for everything the stimulus bill did while he voted against it. Has he no shame?

I'd only add that the one accomplishment that Herger boasts with the Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act didn't stop clear cuts, did nothing to mitigate the dangers of wildfires, didn't reduce fuels (you have to remove the undergrowth to stop stand replacing crown fires--not take out mature trees), increased the profits of corporations that want to despoil our national forests and ship the wood overseas and did nothing to lead us to a more sustainable logging future. In short, our forests aren't healthier becaue of Herger.

Vote the bum out!
Scholar

Jackson, CA

#11 Oct 30, 2010
jaime wrote:
<quoted text>
You write about "the relative free ride illegals have in this country," Scholar. I wonder if you'd like to take that ride for even a single day, to trade your privileged circumstances for theirs for even 24 hours. This "free ride" notion of yours is beyond delusional, but it does explain the simple heartlessness of the view of people you share with Whitman.
Really? It's "heartless" to have immigration laws? It's literally a free ride when we transport illegals back to their homeland without prosecution. Maybe you should try sneaking into your beloved France and seeing how you're handled over there. You gonna whine that it's heartless for them to export those who straggle in too? Just what does a border mean to you??

Actually, if I were a farm laborer, I would LOVE to be able to trade circumstances and work temporarily in a country that paid me ten times what I could make back home. Problem is, such countries have an obligation to their own citizens to save jobs for them and to keep out people who sneak in, which I would have to do. Norway is going to toss my backside the hell out, that heartless, soul-less Nazi state!!

So you concede the terribly faulty analogy with slavery, the obvious truth that employment is not friendship. Good. You have some common sense. Now if you only had the sense to stop writing such nonsense in the first place.
MOM

Chico, CA

#12 Oct 30, 2010
Your Dad wrote:
The only "weasel" in this town is YOU, Oh Kneel, and you KNOW it. Miscreant, malcontent, activist agitators like you just prove their childish immaturity every time you scribble your inanities..geez, will you EVER grow up?
Dad, I so totally agree with you about that academic drop-out leftist agitator in our midst who hates we the people so much... a discontented liberal with a brain disorder and psychosomatic inequities in her chemistry pees in the soup of our culture like a 2-year old and then stands back and says to the grown-ups..."Look what I did"! Grow up, you clown loach!~
jaime

Chico, CA

#13 Oct 30, 2010
Scholar wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? It's "heartless" to have immigration laws? It's literally a free ride when we transport illegals back to their homeland without prosecution. Maybe you should try sneaking into your beloved France and seeing how you're handled over there. You gonna whine that it's heartless for them to export those who straggle in too? Just what does a border mean to you??
Actually, if I were a farm laborer, I would LOVE to be able to trade circumstances and work temporarily in a country that paid me ten times what I could make back home. Problem is, such countries have an obligation to their own citizens to save jobs for them and to keep out people who sneak in, which I would have to do. Norway is going to toss my backside the hell out, that heartless, soul-less Nazi state!!
So you concede the terribly faulty analogy with slavery, the obvious truth that employment is not friendship. Good. You have some common sense. Now if you only had the sense to stop writing such nonsense in the first place.
You honestly confound my understanding with your capacity for misunderstanding. It's not heartless to have immigration laws, nor is that the point here. It's heartless to turn your back on a person who have served you well and faithfully for nine years, to turn from her and spurn her as just another of that faceless horde of "the other" you right wingers see in the people who pick your produce and slaughter your meat.
And do you, in honesty, think that protecting American jobs is the issue here. Haven't you seen these recent studies that show Americans won't take these jobs these overprivileged Mexicans are coming here to do.
No, employment is not friendship, but if you can know someone for nine years who occupies your home, and can then urge her exportation rather than spending a few of your billions of dollars to help her when she is in extremis, then you're pretty far down on the scale of human decency, unless you divide the world into masters and servants, as people like you apparently do, Scholar. I sure do wish you could, in fact, occupy this strata for a few days. It might give you a little perception that would infuse you with some much needed humanity. You have such elaborate compassion for the 1% of the country who own virtually everything, so much quick alarm for their fair treatment, and damn little for anyone else, it seems. Such imperious indifference to others just amazes me. Obviously, you didn't read or understand Huckleberry Finn any better than Meg.
Dode Penrod

AOL

#14 Oct 30, 2010
MOM wrote:
<quoted text>
Dad, I so totally agree with you about that academic drop-out leftist agitator in our midst who hates we the people so much... a discontented liberal with a brain disorder and psychosomatic inequities in her chemistry pees in the soup of our culture like a 2-year old and then stands back and says to the grown-ups..."Look what I did"! Grow up, you clown loach!~
Holy chit! Is this the kind of "Mom" that is in the majority in Paradise? Pity the poor children!!!
Stephen Rose

Chico, CA

#15 Oct 30, 2010
Greg P wrote:
<quoted text>
With Obama calling the majority (63%) of America "The Enemy" is enough reason to bring him up on sedition charges and prosecuted. No wonder his approval rating is a dismal 37%. He's the most devisive president we've ever had, period.
!!!!!!!Impeach Obama, Impeach Obama, Impeach Obama!!!!!!!!
Jerry Brown not prosecuting Meg Whitman's maid for fraud and being illegally in this country should be enough reason see he is a spineless bum, and isn't qualified to run California.
Oh really? Charges of sedition based on what exactly? And perhaps you forget that all the divisiveness began with the self-proclaimed "uniter," and cowboy, George Bush. Boy, he sure united us all! The only reason some on the left are not happy with Obama is because he has not gone far enough, and made too many compromises to the real enemies of democracy, the Republicans, and in return received NADA from them but compromised bills with none (except two) of their votes, and the Senate has seen a record number of superfluous filibusters, and the "supposedly" apolitical Supreme Court at the time, allowed corporate and foreign moneys to pour into our election cycle by the hundreds of millions of dollars, with no accountability. Bravo Republicans!

If anyone should be tried for sedition it should be almost the entire Republican Party, and some of the dumbest and nastiest candidates on record from the Tea party. Ya know, the ones calling for "Second Amendment remedies" if they don't win legally, and the ones stomping on women and arresting reporters who dare to ask political questions, and constantly reminding everyone of their right to rebel. That my friend, is sedition! You don't rebel against, and incite violence against a duly elected government, voted in by the majority, simply because you lose elections because the rest of the nation thinks you are dangerous, crazy and incompetent.

You really have bought the right wing BS hook, line and sinker haven't you? Wait till you guys finally find out that the Republicans care nothing for the people of this nation, unless that is, if they happen to make seven and eight digit incomes. Most all the Tea Party members still have no idea that they are the dupes of the Republican Party and the corporations, and I have little hope of most of them waking up till it might be too late. They want small government only when it suits them, but want huge government to police women's reproductive rights and gays civil rights. Hypocrisy is obviously a word those on the left are in complete denial about.
Scholar

Jackson, CA

#16 Oct 30, 2010
jaime wrote:
<quoted text>
You honestly confound my understanding with your capacity for misunderstanding.
Your incapacity to understand others' points of view does not constitute misunderstanding on my part. I got exactly what you said, and it's still nonsense.
jaime wrote:
<quoted text>It's heartless to turn your back on a person who have served you well and faithfully for nine years, to turn from her and spurn her as just another of that faceless horde of "the other" you right wingers see in the people who pick your produce and slaughter your meat.
Please don't use up all your emotional verbs. It was a job, and she was apparently compensated legally and fairly. She was let go, not "spurned", whatever that means. Happens every day. If you want every fired maid or gardener to get some kind of severance pay, take it up with your representatives.

Of course, it's hard to see why Nicky'd need it. Wasn't she paid $23/hour?? I'm sure that wage looks good to most of us. It looks good to me. But Meg is a beast??? There should be more such beasts doling out jobs.
jaime wrote:
<quoted text>No, employment is not friendship, but if you can know someone for nine years who occupies your home, and can then urge her exportation rather than spending a few of your billions of dollars to help her when she is in extremis, then you're pretty far down on the scale of human decency, unless you divide the world into masters and servants, as people like you apparently do, Scholar. I sure do wish you could, in fact, occupy this strata for a few days. It might give you a little perception that would infuse you with some much needed humanity. You have such elaborate compassion for the 1% of the country who own virtually everything, so much quick alarm for their fair treatment, and damn little for anyone else, it seems. Such imperious indifference to others just amazes me. Obviously, you didn't read or understand Huckleberry Finn any better than Meg.
I showed you EXACTLY why your Huck Finn analogy is stupid.

The world is indeed divided into employers and employees, Jaime, masters and servants if you will, though those terms surely connote slavery.

Your terminology only belies your politics. Anyone with a job is a slave, any employer a selfish beast.

NOW, would you care to explain why ANY of this matters 3 days before an election???
Yomama

United States

#17 Oct 30, 2010
Stephen Rose wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh really? Charges of sedition based on what exactly? And perhaps you forget that all the divisiveness began with the self-proclaimed "uniter," and cowboy, George Bush. Boy, he sure united us all! The only reason some on the left are not happy with Obama is because he has not gone far enough, and made too many compromises to the real enemies of democracy, the Republicans, and in return received NADA from them but compromised bills with none (except two) of their votes, and the Senate has seen a record number of superfluous filibusters, and the "supposedly" apolitical Supreme Court at the time, allowed corporate and foreign moneys to pour into our election cycle by the hundreds of millions of dollars, with no accountability. Bravo Republicans!
If anyone should be tried for sedition it should be almost the entire Republican Party, and some of the dumbest and nastiest candidates on record from the Tea party. Ya know, the ones calling for "Second Amendment remedies" if they don't win legally, and the ones stomping on women and arresting reporters who dare to ask political questions, and constantly reminding everyone of their right to rebel. That my friend, is sedition! You don't rebel against, and incite violence against a duly elected government, voted in by the majority, simply because you lose elections because the rest of the nation thinks you are dangerous, crazy and incompetent.
You really have bought the right wing BS hook, line and sinker haven't you? Wait till you guys finally find out that the Republicans care nothing for the people of this nation, unless that is, if they happen to make seven and eight digit incomes. Most all the Tea Party members still have no idea that they are the dupes of the Republican Party and the corporations, and I have little hope of most of them waking up till it might be too late. They want small government only when it suits them, but want huge government to police women's reproductive rights and gays civil rights. Hypocrisy is obviously a word those on the left are in complete denial about.
The Tea Party isn't the "leader" of the most powerful country in the world. A leader is "supposed" to lead by example, and calling his fellow Americans the enemy is grounds for removal. And, who cares about George Bush? He's gone, past history, no mas... we need to worry about our current (so called) leader. He's slapped the American people with the glove. Look up Sedition in Google... With Obama calling fellow Americans his enemy is grounds for sedition. It's time to remove him from power, along with his henchmen.
bluffian

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#18 Oct 30, 2010
It's convenient that the piece tries to build an argument for replacing Herger without ever acknowledging who is the one that would replace him this election; Herger's faced a variety of challengers over the years, some good, some bad - but I can think of none so bad as Reed.

His claims of the northstate being underfunded have been thoroughly debunked and since he has no other issues to run on, he's running on slimy personal attacks.

Try again in 2012...
Stephen Rose

Chico, CA

#19 Oct 30, 2010
Yomama wrote:
<quoted text>
The Tea Party isn't the "leader" of the most powerful country in the world. A leader is "supposed" to lead by example, and calling his fellow Americans the enemy is grounds for removal. And, who cares about George Bush? He's gone, past history, no mas... we need to worry about our current (so called) leader. He's slapped the American people with the glove. Look up Sedition in Google... With Obama calling fellow Americans his enemy is grounds for sedition. It's time to remove him from power, along with his henchmen.
Please send me the quote and URL where the President calls "his fellow Americans" the enemy; this is the first I've heard of it. If you are referring to him saying latinos have to go out and punish their enemies at the ballot box, so what? Do you honestly think that latinos and blacks, gays and many other minorities in this nation that the righteous and pompous among us think are inferior, don't have enemies? Really? Big difference between calling Americans my enemies, and acknowledging that latinos have enemies.

And btw -- 63% IS a majority, a rather large one.

And sorry, George Bush is not past history. It's thanks to him and his group of thugs like Cheney and Rumsfeld, to mention just a couple, that our nation is in so much deep doodoo. And it's the same Congresssional representatives that supported him that are trying to shut our government down and make the president, as well as the country, fail. To say that George Bush (he's only been out of office 20 months, leaving a mess that will take over a decade to repair) isn't irrelevant to current issues and problems is akin to saying Neville Chamberlain had no effect on enabling Word War II after he told Nazi Germany to go ahead and take Poland.

And I know what sedition means. It is the kind of thing that Limbaugh, Beck, Angle, O'Reilly, Fox and many others of the same ilk constantly preach when they encourage violence against our government, mostly because they are peeved the American people threw their party out of office for incompetence and criminal behavior. Inciting people to rebel against the state is classic sedition.
Stephen Rose

Chico, CA

#20 Oct 30, 2010
bluffian wrote:
It's convenient that the piece tries to build an argument for replacing Herger without ever acknowledging who is the one that would replace him this election; Herger's faced a variety of challengers over the years, some good, some bad - but I can think of none so bad as Reed.
His claims of the northstate being underfunded have been thoroughly debunked and since he has no other issues to run on, he's running on slimy personal attacks.
Try again in 2012...
I agree Reed is not a great replacement, I met him once and wasn't impressed, but I've met Wally twice and was even less impressed, and am certainly not impressed with his so-called "representation" of his voting constituency. He does, however, support the constituency that gives him lots of money for his campaigns. Aren't you tired of elected officials being beholden to those with enough money to help them win an election? Is that what our republic is really about? That's like basically saying let's screw 95% of the voters and non-voters because they don't count nearly as much as those few that can give us the big bucks. It's called an Oligarchy, not a Democracy, or a Republic, and it's only a step or two away from a dictatorship, and not a benevolent one. I will agree both sides are culpable of this practice, but the Republicans have absolutely run away with it, especially since the irresponsible and ludicrous Citizen's United decision by the best Supreme Court money can buy.

It's time to get rid of lifetime appointments for US Supreme Court Justices. The Founding Fathers added that to keep the court apolitical, and that sure didn't work out.
Scholar

Jackson, CA

#21 Oct 30, 2010
Stephen Rose wrote:
<quoted text>
Please send me the quote and URL where the President calls "his fellow Americans" the enemy; this is the first I've heard of it. If you are referring to him saying latinos have to go out and punish their enemies at the ballot box, so what? Do you honestly think that latinos and blacks, gays and many other minorities in this nation that the righteous and pompous among us think are inferior, don't have enemies? Really? Big difference between calling Americans my enemies, and acknowledging that latinos have enemies.
"Si los latinos se quedan sentados el día de las elecciones en vez de decir 'vamos a castigar a nuestros enemigos y recompensar a los amigos que nos apoyan en los asuntos que más nos importan', si no ven ese aumento [de votantes] en estas elecciones, entonces creo que va a ser mucho más difícil; por eso es tan importante que todo el mundo se concentre en votar el 2 de noviembre", declaró Obama."

He's clearly calling Republicans "enemies" of Latinos, putting words in Latino mouths.

So Obama's not calling all Americans "enemies", only half or so. Very benevolent.

Maybe he should just let Latinos decide for themselves whether Republicans like Marco Rubio are the enemy.

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News California Rep. Dreier announces plan to retire (Feb '12) Mar '12 torch 4
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