Yolo congressmen split on continue Patriot Act which was rejected by House

There are 5 comments on the Feb 9, 2011, Daily Democrat story titled Yolo congressmen split on continue Patriot Act which was rejected by House. In it, Daily Democrat reports that:

The House late Tuesday failed to extend the life of three surveillance tools that are key to the nation's post-Sept. 11 anti-terror law, a slipup for the new Republican leadership that miscalculated the level of opposition.

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ugh

Penryn, CA

#1 Feb 9, 2011
naturally Herger would be against freedom...
bluffian

United States

#2 Feb 9, 2011
Which is as simplistic as saying, "Thompson would be against security."
bluffian

United States

#3 Feb 9, 2011
The merits of the specific provisions, of course are arguable. As for the first, since it specifies "court-approved" wire-taps, that's not too different from other court-sanctioned surveillance. The "library records provision" is maybe a bit more bothersome to me, but the logic behind it is clear. And as for the "lone-wolf" piece, many would say that while the government has a duty to respect and protect the privacy of citizens, non-citizens are a different matter (not to say that they have no rights, but they don't have all the rights of citizens).

There are certainly arguments to be made against all of the above, but to throw out such an "ad hominem" statement says more about the speaker than the target. But, if you would like to follow that line of thought, be honest about where it goes: the majority of congressmen and the majority of voters must be "against freedom." Is that really what you're proposing?
yup

Penryn, CA

#4 Feb 9, 2011
Republicans are against freedom. It's simple. They promote corporate rule, restrict women from getting reproductive help, and promote the wealthy over everyone else.

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#5 Feb 9, 2011
yup wrote:
Republicans are against freedom. It's simple. They promote corporate rule, restrict women from getting reproductive help, and promote the wealthy over everyone else.
We can not be truly free without security and without the benefit of corporations you would whine like a child for the things you would no longer have. Being against killing baby humans, most often for the convenience of the mother is not restricting reproductive help. Being wealthy is not a crime comrad, even if your friend Karl Marx would like it to be so.

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