Prop. 8 headed for 9th Circuit

Prop. 8 headed for 9th Circuit

There are 815 comments on the Daily Democrat story from Aug 5, 2010, titled Prop. 8 headed for 9th Circuit. In it, Daily Democrat reports that:

Mixed reaction -- largely falling along conservative and liberal lines -- was coming in following a Wednesday afternoon ruling overturning California's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage.

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“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#830 Sep 15, 2010
Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:
Everytime "we the people" get to vote homosexual marriage is shut down. Why doesn't the fascist liberal government pay attention?
wrong. Your side lost in Arizona in 2006. It took a second try to get something you could slip past the voters.

Your side being sore losers in Arizona is good, because it means passing your silly little amendment isn't the end of the debate. We can come back with a real vote at the time of our choosing.

Look for repeal votes passing in California next time. You only won by 52-48, a statistical tie.(Vote counting technology seems to have a built in error of about 4%).
Study the basics

Grass Valley, CA

#831 Sep 16, 2010
Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:
Srudy Everytime "we the people" get to vote homosexual marriage is shut down. Why doesn't the fascist liberal government pay attention?
Take a high school civics course and you'll get the answer to your question. Your use of the word "fascist" reveals your ignorance.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#832 Sep 16, 2010
Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:
Everytime "we the people" get to vote homosexual marriage is shut down. Why doesn't the fascist liberal government pay attention?
If you hadn't slept through 8th grade Civics class, you'd already know the answer to that.

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#833 Sep 16, 2010
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
If you hadn't slept through 8th grade Civics class, you'd already know the answer to that.
and, because he did sleep through civic, and for those who need a refresher:

The US has a system of limited government (not always honored) that puts a high value on individual freedom and personal rights. In playground language: your freedom ends where my nose begins.

Barring same Same gender couples access to marriage violates all of our core constitutional principles. It harms no one else and is a bully's action to control 'those' of whom 'you' don't approve. It serves no purpose other than prejudice.
RevDoc

Auburn, CA

#834 Sep 16, 2010
Morals evolve wrote:
<quoted text>
Your response is full of non sequiturs. By the way, the quotes from Aristotle are not unfamiliar to me.
Well thank goodness for your earth shaking revelatory comments. If not for your substantive input, I wondered how I would have faced the cold dark world, this very day.
RevDoc

Auburn, CA

#835 Sep 16, 2010
Gary47 wrote:
<quoted text>wrong. Your side lost in Arizona in 2006. It took a second try to get something you could slip past the voters.
Can you supply the current stats? Isn't it something akin to 31 to ________(fill in the blank with the number of wins).

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#836 Sep 16, 2010
RevDoc wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you supply the current stats? Isn't it something akin to 31 to ________(fill in the blank with the number of wins).
This is not a sports league, with championship and end date. Win loss ratio is irrelevant.

Things looked pretty bad for the US on December 8, 1941, and for months after. But look what happened by September 1945.

In this debate, the attitudes of society and direction are what matter. In a generation, the idea of same gender couples getting married has gone from absolutely impossible in law or the popular mind, to legal in 5 states and DC, plus civil unions / strong domestic partnership (marriage except for the m-word) in 6+ more. Depending on the poll, a scant majority of voters either support or oppose marriage equality, a clear majority in the blue-er states.

The future is clear, and like the war in the pacific, the tide will turn and amendments repealed by voters. In 20 years, any couple will be able to wed, and your opposition to equality will seem as quaint and obsolete as 18th century use of 'f' to write 's'.
custodialdadowes 20000

Fenton, MO

#837 Sep 16, 2010
"The future is clear, and like the war in the pacific, the tide will turn and amendments repealed by voters. In 20 years, any couple will be able to wed, and your opposition to equality will seem as quaint and obsolete as 18th century use of 'f' to write 's'."

When I was a teen growing up I had several gay friends (still talk to some of them on face book), and I am a supporter of gay civil rights.

My teenage son cannot be made to see why gay marriage is an issue at all. I think most of his generation is the same way. They just don't understand why conservatives can't keep their nose in their own marriage and their own bedroom.
RevDoc

Auburn, CA

#838 Sep 16, 2010
Gary47 wrote:
<quoted text>"wrong. Your side lost in Arizona in 2006. It took a second try to get something you could slip past the voters."

...and then Gary47 writes: "This is not a sports league, with championship and end date. Win loss ratio is irrelevant."

Which will it be Gary47?

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#839 Sep 16, 2010
RevDoc wrote:
Gary47 wrote:
<quoted text>"wrong. Your side lost in Arizona in 2006. It took a second try to get something you could slip past the voters."
...and then Gary47 writes: "This is not a sports league, with championship and end date. Win loss ratio is irrelevant."
Which will it be Gary47?
I was responding to different questions. Both statements are valid but depend on context.
Ad Rem

Martinez, CA

#840 Sep 17, 2010
Gary47 wrote:
<quoted text>I was responding to different questions. Both statements are valid but depend on context.
LOL. Typical.

Since: Jan 09

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#841 Sep 19, 2010
custodialdadowes20000 wrote:
"The future is clear, and like the war in the pacific, the tide will turn and amendments repealed by voters. In 20 years, any couple will be able to wed, and your opposition to equality will seem as quaint and obsolete as 18th century use of 'f' to write 's'."
When I was a teen growing up I had several gay friends (still talk to some of them on face book), and I am a supporter of gay civil rights.
My teenage son cannot be made to see why gay marriage is an issue at all. I think most of his generation is the same way. They just don't understand why conservatives can't keep their nose in their own marriage and their own bedroom.
In 20 years, some of us will know the whole truth, for we will be
advanced through death, and bs will have faded away !
custodialdadowes 20000

Fenton, MO

#842 Sep 19, 2010
I'm agnostic. Ignostic probably describes me even better. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

I can't prove that a dead person doesn't see "truth". My guess is that they see nothing though. I know what you mean by "truth" btw. If you guys send me the big invite in the sky, I will probably accept it and work very hard to be worthy of an harem.:)

Since: Jan 09

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#843 Sep 19, 2010
custodialdadowes20000 wrote:
I'm agnostic. Ignostic probably describes me even better. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
I can't prove that a dead person doesn't see "truth". My guess is that they see nothing though. I know what you mean by "truth" btw. If you guys send me the big invite in the sky, I will probably accept it and work very hard to be worthy of an harem.:)
What you don't believe in 'Christianity' after you die ?
custodialdadowes 20000

Fenton, MO

#844 Sep 19, 2010
My guess is that your perception and character just poofs out of existence when you die.

I don't know for sure this is what happens though. I can't prove or disprove God, or an afterlife.

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