Obama faces off with GOP

Obama faces off with GOP

There are 45 comments on the The Reporter story from Jan 30, 2010, titled Obama faces off with GOP. In it, The Reporter reports that:

In a remarkably sharp face-to-face confrontation, President Barack Obama chastised Republican lawmakers Friday for opposing him on taxes, health care and the economic stimulus, while they accused him in turn of brushing off their ideas and driving up the national debt.

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#43 Feb 1, 2010
digby wrote:
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So this is how you defend your great historic, Nobel prize winning President The man has been busy with a lot of Reaching out, Reinvigorating, Re-engaging, Presenting, Inaugurating, Setting, Moving to, Refocusing and Returning to, goin' on. Stem cell research he got that. Lilly Leadbetter act, that's good. Yeah, some nice things squeaked through to be sure. But realistically, we are supposed to believe that with majorities in both houses and this dynamic, charismatic leader of a President this is acceptable? These are the results of conscientious, dedicated and responsive leaders and leadership? In a pig's eye! Or maybe an ****' eye!
What are the great cry baby excuses for this? He's only had a year. He's just the President. It's Congress' fault. Is that what you believe? I don't. Try to wrap your mind around this. George Bush couldn't talk. George Bush was on vacation all the time. George Bush was illiterate. George Bush and the Republican MINORITY got every damn thing their little hearts desired! There is no plausible excuse for this incompetency, this impotency! None!
Either Democrats are just so dog gone "diverse " that they can't support a cohesive policy, they are incompetent or they are not really playing to win. My pick is the latter. They were failures as a minority and they are failures as a majority because they are supposed to be. Because they don't represent Progressive policy, or you, or me. They are installed and bought by money and power in the form of corporate interests and their lobbyists.
The sweeping electoral victories of Democrats in the last election cycles and they still can't squeeze out one tenth the productivity for their party that the Republicans did, and still can as a minority, it is time to take a serious look at what 's behind that curtain. This has to stop. It is wrong. It looks, smells, tastes and acts wrong! Barack Obama, the Blue Dogs and the rest of the fake and poseur Democrats are going to find their souls and correct their courses on their own. Pelosi was not talking to the Republicans when she was pole vaulting, she was talking about the president. He sold out his own party
I'm not sure you're totally familiar with my views, but I don't have a strong liking of Obama - not because he's a liberal, but because he seems out of touch with what really needs to happen. My main issue with Republicans(well, conservatives, anyway)is the pouty, standoffish attitude meant solely to derail any chance this guy might do something right. Last month, republicans wanted Congress to go back to a pay as you go system to control government spending - Obama, thinking the repubs were onto something, agreed and endorsed the idea. Now, the repubs vote no, they don't want it. You all need to set a different kind of example for your party and supporters, because this child-like game you've been playing this year is doing nothing to further the country along, or restore faith in your ability to lead. As each day passes, I say to myself, "Well, Obama isn't what I had hoped for thus far, but at least he is still behaving like a rational adult and not a child in the throws of a tantrum."

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#44 Feb 1, 2010
digby wrote:
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So this is how you defend your great historic, Nobel prize winning President The man has been busy with a lot of Reaching out, Reinvigorating, Re-engaging, Presenting, Inaugurating, Setting, Moving to, Refocusing and Returning to, goin' on. Stem cell research he got that. Lilly Leadbetter act, that's good. Yeah, some nice things squeaked through to be sure. But realistically, we are supposed to believe that with majorities in both houses and this dynamic, charismatic leader of a President this is acceptable? These are the results of conscientious, dedicated and responsive leaders and leadership? In a pig's eye! Or maybe an ****' eye!
What are the great cry baby excuses for this? He's only had a year. He's just the President. It's Congress' fault. Is that what you believe? I don't. Try to wrap your mind around this. George Bush couldn't talk. George Bush was on vacation all the time. George Bush was illiterate. George Bush and the Republican MINORITY got every damn thing their little hearts desired! There is no plausible excuse for this incompetency, this impotency! None!
Either Democrats are just so dog gone "diverse " that they can't support a cohesive policy, they are incompetent or they are not really playing to win. My pick is the latter. They were failures as a minority and they are failures as a majority because they are supposed to be. Because they don't represent Progressive policy, or you, or me. They are installed and bought by money and power in the form of corporate interests and their lobbyists.
The sweeping electoral victories of Democrats in the last election cycles and they still can't squeeze out one tenth the productivity for their party that the Republicans did, and still can as a minority, it is time to take a serious look at what 's behind that curtain. This has to stop. It is wrong. It looks, smells, tastes and acts wrong! Barack Obama, the Blue Dogs and the rest of the fake and poseur Democrats are going to find their souls and correct their courses on their own. Pelosi was not talking to the Republicans when she was pole vaulting, she was talking about the president. He sold out his own party
BTW, I don't at all disagree with your statement on the Bush Administration's ability to get things done - they were remarkable at that, but they often went for the wrong thing... and no, this mess isn't solely Bush's fault - our system is designed to where one guy can't wreck it completely - I think fault lies mainly with greedy corporations, naive consumers, unscrupulous middle men (brokers, agents, etc), and the manipulation of what the American dream is supposed to be.
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#45 Feb 2, 2010
The republicans will do anything and say anything to remain in power. I have seen it with my own eyes. I have read the posts on this site and can only rub my jaw and shake my head. My question is this... does anyone have and original thought?? This is the same party that was willing to elect to the vice presidency and woman with the intellect of a "C" student in community college because she had looked a certain way and was willing to say anything!! This is the same party that endorses an obvious bigot in Rush Limbaugh as it's conscience.
The democrats are afraid to stand up for their party. They cannot get out of their own way! They are afraid to take a stand about anything and thus refuse to get anything done. Elitist and too cowardice they sometimes are so afraid they will offend someone when the republicans couldn't care less who they offend.
There are some areas of my life where I am liberal and others where I am conservative. Why would I allow myself to listen only one group? Again this is like being in a gang!! Right or wrong I have to side with a particular party?? Bump that!!
I believe that this president is a smart man... much smarter than the last one we had. He promotes dialogue in the face of two organization (dems and reps) only asking both to think. But they aren't really interested in that. what they are interested in is getting re-elected.
It is so obvious... I could turn down the sound on my TV and look at the party affiliation of anyone talking on the TV. If they are republican 100% of the time they will have a negative thing to say about the White house. Couldn't we be less predictable? No! We are just that predictable. No matter the rhetoric all I have to do is look at the party affiliation. THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! I would be happy if we were just willing to listen to the other and then think!!
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Sewaren, NJ

#46 Feb 2, 2010
MrRealistic wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure you're totally familiar with my views, but I don't have a strong liking of Obama - not because he's a liberal, but because he seems out of touch with what really needs to happen. My main issue with Republicans(well, conservatives, anyway)is the pouty, standoffish attitude meant solely to derail any chance this guy might do something right. Last month, republicans wanted Congress to go back to a pay as you go system to control government spending - Obama, thinking the repubs were onto something, agreed and endorsed the idea. Now, the repubs vote no, they don't want it. You all need to set a different kind of example for your party and supporters, because this child-like game you've been playing this year is doing nothing to further the country along, or restore faith in your ability to lead. As each day passes, I say to myself, "Well, Obama isn't what I had hoped for thus far, but at least he is still behaving like a rational adult and not a child in the throws of a tantrum."
Why are we so afraid to take stand. Either support the man or move aside!!! I agree with an earlier post. The democratic party may be too diverse to do anything. Pres. Obama does not have a magic wand which will change things. We change things! He is trying to get something... hell anything done!! Nay-say Nay-say that's all we do. Meanwhile a ravenous conservative party would have us return to the cold war and the hatred of the rest of the world. They say f__k the rest of the world we are America. Well last I looked we have leveraged over 2 trillion dollars in debt to China. We had better start getting those Rosetta-Stone CD's of Chinese because our own stupidity and arrogance is taking us down. At least this man gives us international hope and respect, not shoes being hurled and Islamic curse words by the same country where the 2 trillion dollars borrowed from China was spent!!!!!!!!!

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#47 Feb 3, 2010
Not in either gang wrote:
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Why are we so afraid to take stand. Either support the man or move aside!!! I agree with an earlier post. The democratic party may be too diverse to do anything. Pres. Obama does not have a magic wand which will change things. We change things! He is trying to get something... hell anything done!! Nay-say Nay-say that's all we do. Meanwhile a ravenous conservative party would have us return to the cold war and the hatred of the rest of the world. They say f__k the rest of the world we are America. Well last I looked we have leveraged over 2 trillion dollars in debt to China. We had better start getting those Rosetta-Stone CD's of Chinese because our own stupidity and arrogance is taking us down. At least this man gives us international hope and respect, not shoes being hurled and Islamic curse words by the same country where the 2 trillion dollars borrowed from China was spent!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you. I want to back the Dems, but they lack testicular fortitude. I will never back the christian conservative reicht - the very same oppressors who try to label Obama a Socialist/Communist, while at the same time telling you how to behave, what religion to put your faith in, how to dress, what books should be read and what ones should be banned or burned...the list goes on. I only want Obama to realize that all of his reinvestment acts and tax breaks require people to spend money for a reward of sorts, but the problem is that money, for alot of people, no longer exists. I am appreciative of the saved jobs, but that isn't helping the unemployed. He spent a year on this health bill, with the biggest story coming from that being big fines for people who don't buy health insurance...in a time when people have no money because of layoffs, and they just lost their insurance coverage. I think he needs to revisit the states he hooked in with the hope and change line and get a status update from his voters... he needs a realignment.

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