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Ms M Manson

Maple Grove, MN

#1 Sep 15, 2009
Republicans have started an Uncivil War and their not going to be happy until shots are fired. Lunatics!
yeah sure

Eugene, OR

#2 Sep 15, 2009
sure they can. the section of voters who turned out to support Obama are generally lazy and won't get out again in such droves. They got their brother elected and that is about all the success they can handle, or work for.
yeah sure

Eugene, OR

#3 Sep 15, 2009
Ms M Manson wrote:
Republicans have started an Uncivil War and their not going to be happy until shots are fired. Lunatics!
"Shots are fired" I'd say you are the lunatic.
Michael Hazzard

Tucson, AZ

#4 Sep 15, 2009
yeah sure wrote:
sure they can. the section of voters who turned out to support Obama are generally lazy and won't get out again in such droves. They got their brother elected and that is about all the success they can handle, or work for.
Yeah sure you are based in reality, yeah sure...
yeah sure

Eugene, OR

#5 Sep 15, 2009
Michael Hazzard wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah sure you are based in reality, yeah sure...
We'll see dipwad.
No One Important

Broadview, IL

#6 Sep 15, 2009
41% of the nation self classifies as conservative, only 21% liberal.

72% of the entire nation now sees Obama as "politically liberal."

Independents favor the GOP by 22 points.

The seniors, who used to be split evenly between parties, now affiliate with the GOP by 46%, and dems 31%.

And seniors ALWAYS vote, rain or shine, day or nite, they wait for hours to vote.

A majority of the nation now no longer trusts Obama to make sound decisions for the nation. Yep, 50% NO LONGER TRUST Obama, only 49% trust him.

The GOP is favord in the generic congressional ballot polls, some by 7 points, and the GOP has ALWAYS overperformed those polls.

The anger out there is real. The public didn't vote FOR far left stupidity, they voted AGAINST Bush.

The democrats thought they had a mandate. Obama only won 29 states. 3 FEWER than Bush did in 2004.

67% of the ENTIRE NATION doesn't think the democrats should shove through a "partisan" bill on their own votes. They want a BI PARTISAN bill. Only 23% want a "dem" only bill.

Yep, THAT means,(and these numbers are in EVERY poll that asks the question, from 67 to 72%), the NATION regrets GIVING the democrats the majority.

The NATION wants the REPUBLICANS at the table.

And if the democrats keep ramming GARBAGE through, on party votes, and each of these bills turns up to be like a rotting corpse in the sun, the more people READ the bills from the democrats, the more they realize THEY STINK...

The democrats will have raised the anger in the nation to the point of no return.

With the anger levels out there already, the democrats can't win ELECTIONS much less hold majorities for too much longer.

Remember, it took the democrats a DECADE to recover after 1994. Will it take them another decade?
No One Important

Broadview, IL

#7 Sep 15, 2009
George Will points out why no one believes Obama anymore.

He USED to say “if you like your health care, you’ll be able to keep your health care. PREIOD..”

Obama doesn’t SAY that anymore. Know why?

Because if you have your private plan? You WON’T be able to keep it. You’re going to be in the GOVERNMENT EXCHANGE program.

And dozens of INDEPENDENT analysts say that millions of people will find their EMPLOYER provided insurance DUMPED because 8% of payroll will be MUCH cheaper than offering you insurance.

As George Will says:
He deplores "scare tactics" but says that unless he gets his way, people will die.

He praises temperate discourse but says many of his opponents are liars.

He says Medicare is an exemplary program that validates government's prowess at running health systems. But he also says Medicare is unsustainable and going broke, and that he will pay for much of his reforms by eliminating the hundreds of billions of dollars of waste and fraud in this paragon of a program, and in Medicaid.

He says Congress will cut Medicare (it will not) by $500 billion—without affecting benefits.
And George Will points out what others of us have been pointing out, Obama blathers about “controlling costs” but there’s Obama, doesn’t utter a significant syllable about tort reforms, because the Trial Lawyer Association firmly OWNS the democrats.

Obama claims his “public option” would not be subsidized by the government. The Post Office, and the “government” transportation, AmTrak burn through tax payer money like there’s no tomorrow.

George Will also notes Obama’s comment “the time for bickering is over.” Presidents of BOTH parties disparage DEBATE as mere bickering, all the inconvenient argument about what government can and should do.

Just because Obama declares HC in crisis, doesn’t make it so.

Just because Obama declares the debate on HC over, doesn’t make it so.

Just because Obama declares “mission accomplished” on the economic crisis, doesn’t make it so.

Just because Obama declares the debate about global warming (“there’s no debate”) over, doesn’t make it so.

Whenver this immature Obama doesn’t like the way the debates are going, he declares the “discussion” over.

Guess what Obama? This isn’t one of your idiotic college classes.

This is AMERICA. And AMERICA says, we don’t WANT what you’re humping out there. America is saying WE DON’T TRUST YOU.

YOU don’t get to “declare” ANYTHING to us. WE, the voters of the nation, the PEOPLE of the nation, are telling you STOP IT, ENOUGH.

And if you and the democrats refuse to listen, the anger out here will continue to rise.

2010 is going to be REALLY ugly for the democrats.
jim

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Sep 15, 2009
The difference between Republican protests and Democratic protests are hatred , intolerance and violence. Libs are fine unless you actually disagree with them .
vetinwbl

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Sep 15, 2009
No One Important wrote:
41% of the nation self classifies as conservative, only 21% liberal.
72% of the entire nation now sees Obama as "politically liberal."
Independents favor the GOP by 22 points.
The seniors, who used to be split evenly between parties, now affiliate with the GOP by 46%, and dems 31%.
And seniors ALWAYS vote, rain or shine, day or nite, they wait for hours to vote.
A majority of the nation now no longer trusts Obama to make sound decisions for the nation. Yep, 50% NO LONGER TRUST Obama, only 49% trust him.
The GOP is favord in the generic congressional ballot polls, some by 7 points, and the GOP has ALWAYS overperformed those polls.
The anger out there is real. The public didn't vote FOR far left stupidity, they voted AGAINST Bush.
The democrats thought they had a mandate. Obama only won 29 states. 3 FEWER than Bush did in 2004.
67% of the ENTIRE NATION doesn't think the democrats should shove through a "partisan" bill on their own votes. They want a BI PARTISAN bill. Only 23% want a "dem" only bill.
Yep, THAT means,(and these numbers are in EVERY poll that asks the question, from 67 to 72%), the NATION regrets GIVING the democrats the majority.
The NATION wants the REPUBLICANS at the table.
And if the democrats keep ramming GARBAGE through, on party votes, and each of these bills turns up to be like a rotting corpse in the sun, the more people READ the bills from the democrats, the more they realize THEY STINK...
The democrats will have raised the anger in the nation to the point of no return.
With the anger levels out there already, the democrats can't win ELECTIONS much less hold majorities for too much longer.
Remember, it took the democrats a DECADE to recover after 1994. Will it take them another decade?
Where do you get your figures from Rushbo.
vetinwbl

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Sep 15, 2009
No One Important wrote:
George Will points out why no one believes Obama anymore.
He USED to say “if you like your health care, you’ll be able to keep your health care. PREIOD..”
Obama doesn’t SAY that anymore. Know why?
Because if you have your private plan? You WON’T be able to keep it. You’re going to be in the GOVERNMENT EXCHANGE program.
And dozens of INDEPENDENT analysts say that millions of people will find their EMPLOYER provided insurance DUMPED because 8% of payroll will be MUCH cheaper than offering you insurance.
As George Will says:
<quoted text>
And George Will points out what others of us have been pointing out, Obama blathers about “controlling costs” but there’s Obama, doesn’t utter a significant syllable about tort reforms, because the Trial Lawyer Association firmly OWNS the democrats.
Obama claims his “public option” would not be subsidized by the government. The Post Office, and the “government” transportation, AmTrak burn through tax payer money like there’s no tomorrow.
George Will also notes Obama’s comment “the time for bickering is over.” Presidents of BOTH parties disparage DEBATE as mere bickering, all the inconvenient argument about what government can and should do.
Just because Obama declares HC in crisis, doesn’t make it so.
Just because Obama declares the debate on HC over, doesn’t make it so.
Just because Obama declares “mission accomplished” on the economic crisis, doesn’t make it so.
Just because Obama declares the debate about global warming (“there’s no debate”) over, doesn’t make it so.
Whenver this immature Obama doesn’t like the way the debates are going, he declares the “discussion” over.
Guess what Obama? This isn’t one of your idiotic college classes.
This is AMERICA. And AMERICA says, we don’t WANT what you’re humping out there. America is saying WE DON’T TRUST YOU.
YOU don’t get to “declare” ANYTHING to us. WE, the voters of the nation, the PEOPLE of the nation, are telling you STOP IT, ENOUGH.
And if you and the democrats refuse to listen, the anger out here will continue to rise.
2010 is going to be REALLY ugly for the democrats.
You mean the same George Will who supported war when georgie was pres? If ypu are going to quote someone I wish they would have a little credibility.
No One Important

Broadview, IL

#11 Sep 15, 2009
Dodd trails his opponent by 10 points.

Specter is in trouble.

Boxer only leads a presumed challenger WHO HASN'T EVEN ANNOUNCED yet by 4 points.

Reid can't beat 2 unknown GOP challengers.

Blanche Lincoln - AR - is in a dead HEAT with the GOP challenger in polls.

The OHIO Senate seat is trending red.

The ILLINOIS seat, Obama's seat, is up for grabs.

That's 7 senate seats right there.

And those are just the senate seats on the radar right NOW.

How many more do you think will pop up as we get closer?

63 Democrats come from areas that voted for MCCAIN.

Only takes 40 to take the house back, 72 are targeted.

The GOP has people coming out of the WOODWORK to run in some areas against democrats. That's right, regular PEOPLE are approaching the GOP asking for help to run against the democrats, they're not having to recruit.

The RECRUITS are coming to THEM!

That's not a party in decline.

The democrats should be VERY petrified. Some of the blue dogs already are. Some of them consider themselves in "safe" districts.

They're finding out, there is no such thing as a "safe" district now with the anger out there.

70K on the mall? Think of the MILLIONS at home who feel the same way but couldn't get there.

Think about the fact that only 1/3rd of independents give Obama an "approval" on his job.

The independents were the ones who gave Obama and the democrats the win.

And now they've LOST them. Obama actually LOST more independents after his speech. The only people he rallied were his own party.

That's not good enough.

The democrats have lost independents, moderates, seniors, etc....

Do the math.
vetinwbl

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Sep 15, 2009
No One Important wrote:
41% of the nation self classifies as conservative, only 21% liberal.
72% of the entire nation now sees Obama as "politically liberal."
Independents favor the GOP by 22 points.
The seniors, who used to be split evenly between parties, now affiliate with the GOP by 46%, and dems 31%.
And seniors ALWAYS vote, rain or shine, day or nite, they wait for hours to vote.
A majority of the nation now no longer trusts Obama to make sound decisions for the nation. Yep, 50% NO LONGER TRUST Obama, only 49% trust him.
The GOP is favord in the generic congressional ballot polls, some by 7 points, and the GOP has ALWAYS overperformed those polls.
The anger out there is real. The public didn't vote FOR far left stupidity, they voted AGAINST Bush.
The democrats thought they had a mandate. Obama only won 29 states. 3 FEWER than Bush did in 2004.
67% of the ENTIRE NATION doesn't think the democrats should shove through a "partisan" bill on their own votes. They want a BI PARTISAN bill. Only 23% want a "dem" only bill.
Yep, THAT means,(and these numbers are in EVERY poll that asks the question, from 67 to 72%), the NATION regrets GIVING the democrats the majority.
The NATION wants the REPUBLICANS at the table.
And if the democrats keep ramming GARBAGE through, on party votes, and each of these bills turns up to be like a rotting corpse in the sun, the more people READ the bills from the democrats, the more they realize THEY STINK...
The democrats will have raised the anger in the nation to the point of no return.
With the anger levels out there already, the democrats can't win ELECTIONS much less hold majorities for too much longer.
Remember, it took the democrats a DECADE to recover after 1994. Will it take them another decade?
How did OBAMA win the election if your numbers are correct? 41% conservetive nation please site your source on that whopper.
Kent

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Sep 15, 2009
Not republicans,the people of America.
Ms M Manson wrote:
Republicans have started an Uncivil War and their not going to be happy until shots are fired. Lunatics!
Michael Hazzard

Tucson, AZ

#14 Sep 15, 2009
yeah sure wrote:
<quoted text>
We'll see dipwad.
We already saw, look what the repugs did to the economy, and everything else, moron...

“Wher's dem turkey necks?”

Since: Dec 08

Palm Desert, CA

#15 Sep 15, 2009
The minority handful of right wing internet blathers have a couple of huge major problems.
A. They have no political leader in the GOP ranks. None.
B. The party is so fractionalized right now it is in a complete state of disarray both locally and nationally.
I heard a new golf term yesterday. It's called "The Sarah Palin". It's someone who does not follow through and finishes their swing.
Michael Hazzard

Tucson, AZ

#16 Sep 15, 2009
No One Important wrote:
Dodd trails his opponent by 10 points.
Specter is in trouble.
Boxer only leads a presumed challenger WHO HASN'T EVEN ANNOUNCED yet by 4 points.
Reid can't beat 2 unknown GOP challengers.
Blanche Lincoln - AR - is in a dead HEAT with the GOP challenger in polls.
The OHIO Senate seat is trending red.
The ILLINOIS seat, Obama's seat, is up for grabs.
That's 7 senate seats right there.
And those are just the senate seats on the radar right NOW.
How many more do you think will pop up as we get closer?
63 Democrats come from areas that voted for MCCAIN.
Only takes 40 to take the house back, 72 are targeted.
The GOP has people coming out of the WOODWORK to run in some areas against democrats. That's right, regular PEOPLE are approaching the GOP asking for help to run against the democrats, they're not having to recruit.
The RECRUITS are coming to THEM!
That's not a party in decline.
The democrats should be VERY petrified. Some of the blue dogs already are. Some of them consider themselves in "safe" districts.
They're finding out, there is no such thing as a "safe" district now with the anger out there.
70K on the mall? Think of the MILLIONS at home who feel the same way but couldn't get there.
Think about the fact that only 1/3rd of independents give Obama an "approval" on his job.
The independents were the ones who gave Obama and the democrats the win.
And now they've LOST them. Obama actually LOST more independents after his speech. The only people he rallied were his own party.
That's not good enough.
The democrats have lost independents, moderates, seniors, etc....
Do the math.
Republican math put this country in the ditch, and now they expect it to run like a thoroughbred, u people are pathetic...
No One Important

Broadview, IL

#18 Sep 15, 2009
ventwbi:

That's Gallup's poll. Those are the numbers NOW, the independents are shifting AGAINST the democrats, and they make up 35% of the voters in the nation.

When you have an entire group of voters who are now SO angry, those negatives, they have to become weighted as "issue" voters.

People who will stand in line, rain or shine, to vote for OR AGAINST, a person or a party, as if there was an "issue" on the ballot, like a tax increase.

When the intensity and negatives start to get that high, you're in "danger" territory. And THAT'S where the democrats are right now.

Politico even mentions right now, the pollsters and the handicappers aren't asking "WILL the GOP gain seats next November" - they're asking "HOW MANY"

Reid was actually STUPID enough to think the democrats would gain even MORE seats...NOW he's acknoledging, yea, they'll lose a few...

A FEW?

They've created an anger out there even HIGHER than it was in 1993 prior to the 1994 slamming.

The democrats were in DENIAL in 1994 about losing seats. They woke up the next morning to a nation that had THROWN them out of the HOUSE MAJORITY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS.

THAT'S how much "denial" the democrats were in back then.

And they're doing it again. They refuse to see the anger out there, they refuse to see the shift.

SOME of the democrats see it, and they're petrified. And they SHOULD be.

This nation is getting angrier and angrier at the washington parasites. Taking more and more from us.

We're hurting. They gave themselves an automatic 4,900 raise. They've ordered themselves PLANES, they ride around in chauffered limos, ALL ON OUR DIME...

And they wouldn't DREAM of giving us a tax cut.

The democrats have completely screwed everything up. This economy is 71% CONSUMER DRIVEN. The CONSUMERS are sitting down, we don't HAVE any money to spend. The democrats won't give it back.

Look, not a SINGLE POLL IN AMERICA says HC is priority.

"It's the economy, stupid."

But there's idiot Obama and Pelosi, trying to shove through HC and then CAP N TAX, and other stupidity.

They don't get it. They don't WANT to get it. THAT'S why Obama has to tell you "mission accomplished" on the economic crisis.

He doesn't WANT you to focus on 6.4 million jobs lost, he doesn't WANT you to focus on the deficit. So he needs to LIE to you and tell you "mission accomplished" so you'll focus on HIS priority, which is HC.

Not a SINGLE POLL in america agrees with him.

We still don't.

And come 2010, the nation will tell the democrats we're sick of you ignoring us.
No One Important

Broadview, IL

#19 Sep 15, 2009
And NOW, the colorado senate seat is a hot seat according to RCP.

Jane Norton, is rumored to open an exploratory committee to investigate running against the appointed senator, Michael Bennet.

RCP now rates this seat as a TOP TIER event to watch.

That's 8 SENATE SEATS NOW to watch in the senate.

Do you understand that some states are already passing petitions around?

Yep, passing petitions to put people on the ballots for primaries.

Election season is ALREADY HERE in some states.

The democrats are in a LOT of trouble.

As I said, how many more will start to pop up on the radar as we get closer?

And as these idiot democrats are standing on stage, no one to blame anymore, no more Bush to punch.....

The challengers are waiting in the wings...watching...waiting...

And so is the nation...we're watching, and waiting...to see what other absolutely stupid and idiotic stunts the dems pull...while Summers, Obama's economic advisor says "this high unemployment may continue for years."

"It's the economy, stupid."

When you democrats stop yankin' around with your puds and start to do something for the ECONOMY, like TAX CUTS, we'll start to think you're on the right track.

Until then, we're in the wings, watching, and waiting...

Go ahead, ram another piece of legislative stupidity through.
Bob the Bilderberg

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Sep 15, 2009
Da Crusher_RIP wrote:
The minority handful of right wing internet blathers have a couple of huge major problems.
A. They have no political leader in the GOP ranks. None.
B. The party is so fractionalized right now it is in a complete state of disarray both locally and nationally.
I heard a new golf term yesterday. It's called "The Sarah Palin". It's someone who does not follow through and finishes their swing.
There's no need for a leader in a movement when it's based on principles. There is no blind following of a charismatic leader who is taking people to some unknown destination, who is simply promising "hope and change."

These people are moved by ideas, not men, and so it doesn't matter if there is no leader. Their principles are their leader.

And when election day comes, they'll be voting for a candidate who shares those principles, not a candidate who shares their skin color or their simple desire for political power.
Michael Hazzard

Tucson, AZ

#21 Sep 15, 2009
No One Important wrote:
ventwbi:
That's Gallup's poll. Those are the numbers NOW, the independents are shifting AGAINST the democrats, and they make up 35% of the voters in the nation.
When you have an entire group of voters who are now SO angry, those negatives, they have to become weighted as "issue" voters.
People who will stand in line, rain or shine, to vote for OR AGAINST, a person or a party, as if there was an "issue" on the ballot, like a tax increase.
When the intensity and negatives start to get that high, you're in "danger" territory. And THAT'S where the democrats are right now.
Politico even mentions right now, the pollsters and the handicappers aren't asking "WILL the GOP gain seats next November" - they're asking "HOW MANY"
Reid was actually STUPID enough to think the democrats would gain even MORE seats...NOW he's acknoledging, yea, they'll lose a few...
A FEW?
They've created an anger out there even HIGHER than it was in 1993 prior to the 1994 slamming.
The democrats were in DENIAL in 1994 about losing seats. They woke up the next morning to a nation that had THROWN them out of the HOUSE MAJORITY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS.
THAT'S how much "denial" the democrats were in back then.
And they're doing it again. They refuse to see the anger out there, they refuse to see the shift.
SOME of the democrats see it, and they're petrified. And they SHOULD be.
This nation is getting angrier and angrier at the washington parasites. Taking more and more from us.
We're hurting. They gave themselves an automatic 4,900 raise. They've ordered themselves PLANES, they ride around in chauffered limos, ALL ON OUR DIME...
And they wouldn't DREAM of giving us a tax cut.
The democrats have completely screwed everything up. This economy is 71% CONSUMER DRIVEN. The CONSUMERS are sitting down, we don't HAVE any money to spend. The democrats won't give it back.
Look, not a SINGLE POLL IN AMERICA says HC is priority.
"It's the economy, stupid."
But there's idiot Obama and Pelosi, trying to shove through HC and then CAP N TAX, and other stupidity.
They don't get it. They don't WANT to get it. THAT'S why Obama has to tell you "mission accomplished" on the economic crisis.
He doesn't WANT you to focus on 6.4 million jobs lost, he doesn't WANT you to focus on the deficit. So he needs to LIE to you and tell you "mission accomplished" so you'll focus on HIS priority, which is HC.
Not a SINGLE POLL in america agrees with him.
We still don't.
And come 2010, the nation will tell the democrats we're sick of you ignoring us.
Tax cuts for the rich, trickle down, we tried your way the way to hell is paved by republicans...

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