US Republicans eye health plan should court overturn reform

Apr 22, 2012 Full story: Reuters 79

Republicans in Congress are getting ready to answer an election-year question that has dogged the party's campaign for months: How would it replace President Barack Obama's healthcare law if the measure is overturned or repealed? House Republicans are working to create a legislative blueprint they can sell to voters after the Supreme Court rules on ... (more)

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“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#1 Apr 22, 2012



Here's a few of the Parameters after Obamacare is Struck Down as Unconstitutional by the SCOTUS and President Romney asks Congress to fix it after taking care of other priorities like Jobs/Economy:



1) REDUCE THE COST OF THE PROGRAM
2) REDUCE COST TO THE CONSUMER
3) NO DEMOCRAT CORN-HOLER KICK-BACKS
4) NO MORE OBAMA BACK ROOM DEALS
5) HOLD HEARINGS ON C-SPAN
6) ENSURE ANY BILL PASSES WITH Bi-Partisan Support
Cat74

Mchenry, IL

#2 Apr 22, 2012
Provide temporary healthcare to thoses who do not have it now, with a time limit when thy have to provide their own. Healthcare is not a right. Soon the Republicans will encourage people to hire again. We need every able bodied American working, and paying taxes to begin paying the obscene debt down. It is unAmerican to laze around.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#3 Apr 22, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
Provide temporary healthcare to thoses who do not have it now, with a time limit when thy have to provide their own. Healthcare is not a right. Soon the Republicans will encourage people to hire again. We need every able bodied American working, and paying taxes to begin paying the obscene debt down. It is unAmerican to laze around.




It's always been Obama's intention to enslave the masses with government handouts and freebies so they Vote for he and his SCUM-BAG Party.

Millions more are on Food Stamps thanks to Obama's Train Wreck.


“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#4 Apr 22, 2012



ObamaCare Case a 'Train Wreck' before Supreme Court

March 27, 2012


“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#5 Apr 22, 2012


CNN Toobin:‘This Law Looks Like It’s Going To Be Struck Down’


CNN Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin, following Supreme Court arguments on President Obama’s health care law, said on CNN that based on what he heard inside the Court, things didn’t look good for proponents of the law.



“This was a train wreck for the Obama administration,” he said.“This law looks like it’s going to be struck down. I’m telling you, all of the predictions including mine that the justices would not have a problem with this law were wrong… if I had to bet today I would bet that this court is going to strike down the individual mandate.”

Toobin added that he felt that U.S. Solicitor General David Verrilli simply wasn’t prepared for the conservative justices.

“I don’t know why he had a bad day,” he said.“He is a good lawyer, he was a perfectly fine lawyer in the really sort of tangential argument yesterday. He was not ready for the answers for the conservative justices.”

Toobin also said he thought Justice Kennedy, the perennial swing vote, was a “lost cause” for supporters of the health care reform law.



http://tammybruce.com/2012/03/cnn-on-obamacar...
Responsibility

San Mateo, CA

#6 Apr 22, 2012
Our prisons should be using their "guests" more constructively and productively than for spamming.

I remember fondly the health care summit where the republicants were downright useless.
Responsibility

San Mateo, CA

#7 Apr 22, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
Healthcare is not a right.
.... it is a necessity - as most first world countries have learned.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#8 Apr 22, 2012
As a Bishop Rmoney supporter, I want national RMONEYCARE and I want men to have all their wives covered.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#9 Apr 22, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
.... it is a necessity - as most first world countries have learned.



WRONG Sh*thead.


The 4 Necessities of life (not including O2):

1) Food
2) Water
3) Clothing
4) Shelter



This is well established and NONE of these are meant to be provided By Government.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#10 Apr 22, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
Our prisons should be using their "guests" more constructively and productively than for spamming.
I remember fondly the health care summit where the republicants were downright useless.



We're you watching the Health Care debates on C-Span while in prison tootsie?




OH! That's Right! THERE WERE NO HEALTH CARE DEBATES COVERED BY C-SPAN as Obama had promised. The Azz Hole Obama did all his negotiations with Big Pharma and Big Insurance BEHIND CLOSED DOORS and In Complete Secret!



You're an Idiot.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#11 Apr 22, 2012
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnis...

Religion defines the issue

The difference between a polygamist and the follower of an "alternative lifestyle" is often religion. In addition to protecting privacy, the Constitution is supposed to protect the free exercise of religion unless the religious practice injures a third party or causes some public danger.

However, in its 1878 opinion in Reynolds vs. United States, the court refused to recognize polygamy as a legitimate religious practice, dismissing it in racist and anti-Mormon terms as "almost exclusively a feature of the life of Asiatic and African people." In later decisions, the court declared polygamy to be "a blot on our civilization" and compared it to human sacrifice and "a return to barbarism." Most tellingly, the court found that the practice is "contrary to the spirit of Christianity and of the civilization which Christianity has produced in the Western World."

Contrary to the court's statements, the practice of polygamy is actually one of the common threads between Christians, Jews and Muslims.

Deuteronomy contains a rule for the division of property in polygamist marriages. Old Testament figures such as Abraham, David, Jacob and Solomon were all favored by God and were all polygamists. Solomon truly put the "poly" to polygamy with 700 wives and 300 concubines. Mohammed had 10 wives, though the Koran limits multiple wives to four. Martin Luther at one time accepted polygamy as a practical necessity. Polygamy is still present among Jews in Israel, Yemen and the Mediterranean.

Indeed, studies have found polygamy present in 78% of the world's cultures, including some Native American tribes.(While most are polygynists — with one man and multiple women — there are polyandrists in Nepal and Tibet in which one woman has multiple male spouses.) As many as 50,000 polygamists live in the United States.

Given this history and the long religious traditions, it cannot be seriously denied that polygamy is a legitimate religious belief. Since polygamy is a criminal offense, polygamists do not seek marriage licenses. However, even living as married can send you to prison. Prosecutors have asked courts to declare a person as married under common law and then convicted them of polygamy.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#12 Apr 22, 2012


Obama’s C-SPAN Broken promise video and the “Let the Cameras In” Petition



January 6, 2010
Current Affairs



Breitbart has a priceless clip from Naked Emperor News with 8 different BO promises to air healthcare debate on C-SPAN.


Watch the Lying Azz Holobama here:

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40115/obamas...

Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#13 Apr 22, 2012
It's time to have a national debate about polygamy.

An estimated 30,000 to 50,000 people live a polygamist lifestyle in the US, many in sects splintered from the Mormon Church.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#14 Apr 22, 2012
Where is our religious freedom?

According to researchers at Brigham Young University, an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 people live a polygamist lifestyle in the US. Many polygamists live in sects splintered from the Mormon church after it renounced polygamy in the 1800s. Those sects believe that Joseph Smith had a revelation that, in order to replenish earth and the celestial afterlife, men should have as many children and wives as possible.

"Our whole life's goal and aim is to make it to the celestial kingdom, and become gods and goddesses in our own right, and have our own children," said Zelpha, one of 25 wives of a patriarch in a Canadian community profiled in a film on the National Geographic Channel.

National Geographic also gained access to a large polygamist group in America after consulting with Warren Jeffs, the imprisoned prophet of The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). Many Americans learned about the group after a raid at Texas' Yearning for Zion Ranch in 2008. That raid led to charges against church members for bigamy and sex with minors.

Journalist Scott Anderson, along with photographer Stephanie Sinclair, spent time in FLDS communities in Colorado City, Arizona; Hildale, Utah; and the Yearning for Zion Ranch in Texas. He wrote about his experience in February’s "National Geographic."

"It's a very wholesome environment; there was very much an outdoor lifestyle; kids helped in the community with projects -- they'd bring in harvests," said Anderson. "But then, whenever it starts feeling very normal, I'd encountered situations like two sisters married to the same man; I interviewed a mother and daughter married to the same man -- it wasn't incest because the mother had been transferred from another husband, and the daughter married the same man six months later."

Within the sect, the practice of reassignment was not uncommon. Reassignment occurs when a man is deemed unworthy by the community's prophet, and his wives and children are transferred to another man. Because of this, says Anderson, the men he encountered in the communities seemed cowed.

"When you have some men who are married to 10 or 20 wives, it means there are other men who are kind of out of the pool, so they're in intense competition with each other," Anderson explained. "And if the prophet is the only person who can ordain these marriages, a lot of the men have this idea that the best way [to] stay on the good side of the prophet is to keep a low profile. It also shows the incredible power that Warren Jeffs had over the followers."

In 2004, Jeffs reassigned 25 families; out of the 25, only one family objected.

While Anderson saw no physical restraints on members in the communities, he felt a tremendous degree of social coercion through isolation. For members, leaving the sect meant walking away from everything they've ever known.

"Certainly the women don't have the kind of life skills to be able to function really in the outside world," said Anderson.

However, he also found members of the FLDS incredibly industrious, and the communities have developed a number of ways to financially sustain themselves.

"The FLDS operates a number of huge farms throughout the area. The men, from a very young age, learn construction -- they're electricians and carpenters. And a huge source of money is from construction companies, and they actually bid on huge construction projects throughout the American west."

Read Scott Anderson's article and view photos on the National Geographic website.

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“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#15 Apr 22, 2012

Obama Lied: Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN


To achieve health care reform, "I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We'll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies -- they'll get a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process."

Sources: Town hall meeting on Aug. 21, 2008, in Chester, Va.



Our Ruling:

Obama promised — repeatedly — an end to closed-door negotiations and complete openness for the health care talks. But he hasn't delivered. Instead of open talks of C-SPAN, we've gotten more of the same — talks behind closed doors at the White House and Congress. We might revisit this promise if there's a dramatic change, but we see nothing to indicate anything has changed.

We rate this Promise Broken.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promi...

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#16 Apr 22, 2012
Makes sense wrote:
It's time to have a national debate about polygamy.
An estimated 30,000 to 50,000 people live a polygamist lifestyle in the US, many in sects splintered from the Mormon Church.




Polygamist: Barack Hussein Obama Sr.


Any voters who have big problems with polygamy might be interested to know there will be a candidate in the 2012 race whose father and grandfather actually were polygamists, and his name is not “Mitt Romney.” As related in the very same Washington Post not two weeks ago:

The line of polygamists in Obama’s family can be traced back generations in western Kenya, where it was an accepted practice within the Luo (pronounced LOO-oh) tribe. His great-grandfather, Obama Opiyo, had five wives, including two who were sisters.

His grandfather, Hussein Onyango, had at least four wives, one of whom, Akumu, gave birth to the president’s father, Barack Obama, before fleeing her abusive husband.


Obama Sr. was already married when he left Kenya to study at the University of Hawaii, where he married again. His American wife-to-be, Stanley Ann Dunham, was not yet 18 and unaware of his marital situation when she became pregnant with his namesake son in 1961.


Obama = Polygamy



So you’ve got to go back to Mitt Romney’s paternal grandfathers to find an actual polygamist, while Barack Obama’s father was a polygamist at the time of his conception in 1961.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-...
Ex-GOP Con

San Jose, CA

#17 Apr 22, 2012
GOPTEA Birthers are just butt hurt that President Obama reformed healthcare first and stole their idea of an individual mandate.

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The right has OFFICIALLY become deranged.
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ObamaCares! 4 more years please!
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“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#18 Apr 22, 2012



You have to laugh at the shear desperation and idiocy of the topix poser: "makes sense" as she tries to claim religion is a campaign issue then makes up lies when she's out of stupid ideas.



You're a moron.


Bwahahahahahahaha!

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#19 Apr 22, 2012
Obama LIED: A Decade of Obamacare Will Cost $1.6 Trillion


By Michael Barone
April 16, 2012


How much will Obamacare — call it the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act if you like — cost over the next ten years?

More than you’ve been led to believe, reports Charles Blahous of George Mason University’s Mercatus Center. To be specific, he projects it will add $1,160 billion to net federal spending over the next ten years and at least $340 billion to federal budget deficits in that time.

Blahous was appointed by Barack Obama as one of two public trustees of the Social Security and Medicare programs. He worked on these issues in George W. Bush’s administration and submitted his Mercatus paper for anonymous peer review.

Why does he say Obamacare will increase spending when the Obama administration, citing Congressional Budget Office numbers, promised it would save money?

Obama simply LIED again.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/296052...

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#20 Apr 22, 2012

Obama = Unconstitutional


The supposed constitutional scholar didn’t seem to know that the Supreme Court has been overturning laws since Marbury v. Madison in 1803. He suggested that the Lochner case was an example of the Supreme Court striking down New Deal legislation. But Lochner was decided in 1905 and overturned a state, not a federal, law.

Similarly, Obama characterized House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan’s budget as “social Darwinism” and falsely said it would require zeroing out spending for various wonderful programs. And he has heaped scorn on those who harbor any doubt that renewables would become major energy sources in the 21st century.

His experiences in university neighborhoods and Chicago politics have apparently left Obama ignorant that there are intellectually serious arguments against liberal policies. So when presented with such arguments by Ryan and others, he scowls, calls people names, and does the intellectual equivalent of stamping his feet.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/296052...

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