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Obama's bipartisan bait and switch - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 90 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Aug 18, 2009, titled Obama's bipartisan bait and switch - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

Barack Obama won the presidency under the persona of healer. He promised to unify a divided nation and said how he would do this.

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still blabbering

Quinebaug, CT

#90 Aug 28, 2009
Stamos wrote:
<quoted text>Just another eco wannabe!
oh clueless one, let's be clear here. If Congress from here out does nothing but maintain the dreaded status quo, we are on an unsustainable budget path. A path of structural deficits never going below $500 B or 3% of GDP in any year from now on. A path that leaves us with a public debt of about 67% of GDP from 2011 on, or a level not seen since Truman was paying off World War II.
In Reagan's eight years, 1981-88, the deficit averaged 4.2% of GDP, with the worst year being 6.0%. Under George W. Bush, 2001-2008, the deficit averaged 2.0% of GDP, with the worst year being 3.6%.
Now let's look at CBO's forecast of Obama's deficits for 2009-2016. The average deficit will be 6.3% of GDP, with a worst case of 13% and a best case of 3.9%. And these are the rosy predictions, the June predictions -- before being updated in August as the baseline scenario was.
Do you get the size and endurance differences? Obama's average will be worse than Reagan's worst single year. Obama's best will be worse than Bush's worst single year. Obama's average will, in fact, be worse than any year since 1930 except for World War II.
You need to go back to macro-101 again. This time for comprehension. BHO and his clueless Keystone Cops Cabinet don't get a pass simply because Bush and the Republican Party failed to prevent Democrats from engineering a meltdown of the housing and, with it, the credit market.
you are the wannabe, bush was riding the coattails of clinton, they hid the real numbers,(not very well for those of us who CAN do math, we saw it all along) adn we all remember bush saying right after he got into office " why have they not lowered taxes (they = clinton admin) wehn we have such an abundant overflow? this is your money and im giving it back to you" that was the first check we all got after he got into office. remember? he could not wait to give it away, what a moron, and oh yeah you still think the dems engineered the housing mess? look at who was involved, real close stamos, for once find the truth and follow the money, who recieved the bailouts from comrade bush? the same onew who donated heavily to his campaign and the repub party, these are things called facts stamos, please join us in the real world
DeadEyeDick

Brooklyn, NY

#91 Aug 28, 2009
Really wrote:
"by the way REALLY when you got your stimulus checks from the government under Bush did you send it back to the Treasury dept or did you go out and spend it? If you didnt send them back why are you now complaining about Bush."
I didn't receive Stimulus checks from GWB, I received cash, from the treasury and put it in the bank. Did I worry about the deficit at the time, yep.
Stimulus gets SPENT in the economy.
Did Bush's tax checks save the economy from collapsing? Did they increase the deficit? Who did we borrow money from to fund the Iraq war? Did that increase the deficit?
Deficits only matter when a Democrat is in the WH, the rest of the time you couldn't care less! The reason I am talking about Bush is you people braught up the deficit as if it just started happening!
To quote myself:

"Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter"
--DickCheney
Stamos

Gardner, MA

#92 Aug 29, 2009
What more proof do you need that Liberalism is a mental disease.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-lafsky/...
"asking what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted's death, and what she'd have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded.

Who knows -- maybe she'd feel it was worth it."
Really

Fitchburg, MA

#94 Aug 29, 2009
Stamos wrote:
What more proof do you need that Liberalism is a mental disease.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-lafsky/...
"asking what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted's death, and what she'd have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded.
Who knows -- maybe she'd feel it was worth it."
LAst but not least Character assasination! What a fool you are stamos. Tool box is empty now.
More than 50,000 people went through the Library in two days, he's a little more popular than you!
Jim

Berlin, MA

#95 Aug 29, 2009
Stamos wrote:
This is why Obama GOT my vote
10. Look to the future: Senator Obama offers the most comprehensive energy plan of any Presidential nominee in history, it will end our dependence on foreign oil and create as many as 5,000,000 jobs. Senator McCain’s plan continues the Bush Administration’s policy of appeasement to Big Oil, does nothing to reduce our dependence on oil, and isn’t as good as Paris Hilton’s.
9. You pollute, you pay: Obama and Biden support plan to make polluters pay for pollution credits and to clean up toxic waste. McCain wants us to foot the bill for clean-up and to give polluters billions in tax breaks and subsidies.
8. Keeping us healthy: Obama and Biden have fought to keep our air and water clean. McCain has voted against clean water ten times and voted six times to make it harder for states and the EPA to keep our air clean.
7. Listening to the scientists: The Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says that America must reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050 in order to avoid the worst effects of global warming. Obama’s plan will reach that goal. McCain’s plan falls far short.
6. The record speaks for itself: Senator Barack Obama earned a lifetime environmental voting score of 86%. Senator Biden earned an 83%. Senator John McCain earned a 24% score.
5. Decisions are made by those who show up: In the last two years, John McCain missed EVERY SINGLE major vote on energy. One vital 2007 bill, to move billions of dollars in tax credits from the oil industry to wind, solar and other clean energy sources, failed by one vote: John McCain’s. Obama and Biden, also running for President, voted for it.
4. Saving money at the pump: Obama proposes to double the fuel efficiency of our cars in 18 years, reducing our oil consumption by at least 35% or 10 millions barrels per day. McCain voted against increasing fuel efficiency in 2003 and 2005. He missed the 2007 vote. Presumably, he ran out of gas.
3. We’re not alone: For more than 20 years, Joe Biden has been at the forefront of the fight against global warming. In 1986, he offered the first Senate bill to fight global warming pollution. Since then, he has been the Senate’s strongest voice for making America the international leader in reducing global warming pollution and exporting clean technology.
2. Higher standards: To create millions of new jobs, we must boost production of renewable electricity. Obama plans create 25% of our electricity from clean energy by 2025. McCain opposes any national renewable energy standard.
1. Judge him by his friends: Senator McCain accepted more than $2 million from the oil and gas industry, more than half of that since he changed his position on offshore drilling last month. His forthcoming plan to open America’s playgrounds and sandboxes to drilling is expected to net another $1.2 million.
You bought all the lies like millions of other people. Liberalism is a disease that's rolling in America today. These environmentalis are nutty people, care more for animals than humans. But the big point is we all missed out in having Sarah Palin as VP. She would of made sure of US oil dependency. We got OIL, we need the right people in office in order to drill for it, and also the morals they bring. Lets not get fooled again...
Really

Fitchburg, MA

#96 Aug 29, 2009
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>You bought all the lies like millions of other people. Liberalism is a disease that's rolling in America today. These environmentalis are nutty people, care more for animals than humans. But the big point is we all missed out in having Sarah Palin as VP. She would of made sure of US oil dependency. We got OIL, we need the right people in office in order to drill for it, and also the morals they bring. Lets not get fooled again...
Liberalism is a disease, Democrats are nutty crazy people, we need to drill baby drill and Sarah Palin strikes your Morals core?

Do I have all this right, yeah, run with that will you please.
Really

Fitchburg, MA

#97 Aug 29, 2009
On to serious issues...

1. THE LETTER STATES: Health reform will “increase the premiums of those with private coverage.”

– WELLPOINT POLICIES: In a recent giddy report about WellPoint’s expected profitability to investors, Barrons reported that WellPoint will be “hiking” premiums to at least “6% to 8% annually.” In 2006, WellPoint’s profits increased 34% as premiums and fees surged.

2. THE LETTER STATES: Health reform will cause “millions of Americans to lose their private coverage” and end up in the public option.

– WELLPOINT POLICIES: In March 2007, the state’s Department of Managed Health Care fined Blue Cross of California and its parent company, WellPoint,$1 million after an investigation revealed that the insurer routinely canceled individual health policies of pregnant women and chronically ill patients. Earlier this summer, despite promises by their lobbyists to the public, WellPoint refused to end the controversial practice of rescinding coverage after an applicant files a medical claim.

While WellPoint has been busy shedding customers and increasing premiums, AMNews reported that WellPoint has cut its medical loss ratio this year — meaning a greater percentage of every premium dollar is going to profits and overhead, rather than being spent on actual medical care. Not only that, while WellPoint has tried to put a “human face” on its company by encouraging their employees to show up at town halls with corporate talking points, WellPoint has cut over 1,500 jobs since the beginning of this year. As former CIGNA executive Wendell Potter has explained, private health insurance companies like WellPoint are an ATM machine for Wall Street.

In a recent interview, NPR’s Steve Inskeep forced WellPoint CEO Angela Braly to concede her company fears that “changes in the insurance market and regulations” could cut into her profits the most. That is because, as Igor Volsky has observed, WellPoint’s business model is “antithetical to regulation,” since the company aggressively pursues healthy customers who are less likely to use benefits to pay for medical care. As the company adds healthy customers, WellPoint has made a science of finding ways to deny coverage to the sick. California regulators uncovered more than 1,200 violations of the law by the company in regard to unfair rescission and claims processing practices.

Braly, who earns nearly $10 million a year, wants “sustainable reform,” yet opposes what her company calls “Obamacare,” refuses to stop rescinding coverage to the sick, and is even suspicious of an individual mandate. Although health insurance lobbyists continue to press their case that they truly want reform “this time,” WellPoint and its stealth lobbying efforts severely undermine that claim.
Stamos

Gardner, MA

#98 Aug 29, 2009
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>You bought all the lies like millions of other people. Liberalism is a disease that's rolling in America today. These environmentalis are nutty people, care more for animals than humans. But the big point is we all missed out in having Sarah Palin as VP. She would of made sure of US oil dependency. We got OIL, we need the right people in office in order to drill for it, and also the morals they bring. Lets not get fooled again...
Jim, that post was from some troll identity thief.
Liberalism is so full of contradictions because a typical liberal isn't possessed of the ability to reason clearly. They'll tell us that it takes great intelligence to hold simultaneously two mutually exclusive positions. They dress-up their sophistries in the impenetrable mumbo-jumbo of modern academia to paper-over their argument's faulty logic and lack of consistency. From there they divide into two cases: those who are deceiving themselves, and those who think they are deceiving others. They end up in this pitiable state because they've embraced "relativism", and, through the smallness of their intellects, have been deluded into denying that there is any form of objective truth.
Dr Martscoff

Fitchburg, MA

#99 Aug 29, 2009
Stamos wrote:
<quoted text>Jim, that post was from some troll identity thief.
Liberalism is so full of contradictions because a typical liberal isn't possessed of the ability to reason clearly. They'll tell us that it takes great intelligence to hold simultaneously two mutually exclusive positions. They dress-up their sophistries in the impenetrable mumbo-jumbo of modern academia to paper-over their argument's faulty logic and lack of consistency. From there they divide into two cases: those who are deceiving themselves, and those who think they are deceiving others. They end up in this pitiable state because they've embraced "relativism", and, through the smallness of their intellects, have been deluded into denying that there is any form of objective truth.
HI I am Dr. Martscoff from the Cleveland Institute of Pychological Disorders, I have met with Stamos on many occasions and have clinically diagnosed Stamos with the following disorders
Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, Stamos has a need for admiration, extreme self-involvement, and lack of empathy for others. Individuals with this disorder such as Stamos are usually arrogantly self-assured and confident. They expect to be noticed as superior. Many highly successful individuals might be considered narcissistic. However, this disorder is only diagnosed when these behaviors become persistent and very disabling or distressing.
Vulnerability in self-esteem makes Stamos with this disorder very sensitive to criticism or defeat. Although Stamos may not show it outwardly, criticism may haunt Stamos and may leave him feeling humiliated, degraded, hollow, and empty. Stamos may react with disdain, rage, or defiant counterattack. Stamos’s social life is often impaired due to problems derived from entitlement, the need for admiration, and the relative disregard for the sensitivities of others. Though their excessive ambition and confidence may lead to high achievement; performance may be disrupted due to intolerance of criticism or defeat.
Narcissistic traits are very common in adolescents, but most adolescents grow out of this behavior. Unfortunately, for some,such as Stamos this narcissistic behavior persists and intensifies into adulthood; thus I have since Diagnosed Stamos with this disorder
Mike from Leominster

Fitchburg, MA

#100 Jan 5, 2010
DeadEyeDick wrote:
<quoted text>
To quote myself:
"Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter"
--DickCheney
That one deserved a bump to the front.

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