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Defenders of SB 5 organize to oppose repeal

There are 30 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Jun 1, 2011, titled Defenders of SB 5 organize to oppose repeal. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

This fall, it will be We Are Ohio versus Building a Better Ohio in a multimillion-dollar clash over the collective-bargaining power of public workers.

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Tim

Columbus, OH

#1 Jun 1, 2011
Yesterday, I stopped at the firestation, manned by off-duty paramedics and police officers for the City of Columbus to sign the petition to put the REPEAL of SB5 on the ballot in November. In just over 3 hours, they had collected 2,434 signatures of Franklin County residents who oppose SB5. Kasich and the Republican legislators made a BIG mistake.......they will pay for it, come November........
Keep SB5

Westerville, OH

#2 Jun 1, 2011
Tim wrote:
Yesterday, I stopped at the firestation, manned by off-duty paramedics and police officers for the City of Columbus to sign the petition to put the REPEAL of SB5 on the ballot in November. In just over 3 hours, they had collected 2,434 signatures of Franklin County residents who oppose SB5. Kasich and the Republican legislators made a BIG mistake.......they will pay for it, come November........
Isn't it illegal to use a public building for political purposes. This is the issue. These unions are so arrogant that they do what they want.

Go ahead and repeal SB 5, then the state, counties and cities can fire the overburdening of staff and their benefits and pensions.

You get what you vote for. We got Obama with morons that do not look into the facts before they vote.

I will never vote for a police, fire, city or school levy because fo teh greed of these unions.

Taxpayers are feed up paying for all of this.
Joe

Columbus, OH

#3 Jun 1, 2011
Keep SB5 wrote:
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Isn't it illegal to use a public building for political purposes. This is the issue. These unions are so arrogant that they do what they want.
Go ahead and repeal SB 5, then the state, counties and cities can fire the overburdening of staff and their benefits and pensions.
You get what you vote for. We got Obama with morons that do not look into the facts before they vote.
I will never vote for a police, fire, city or school levy because fo teh greed of these unions.
Taxpayers are feed up paying for all of this.
I'm a taxpayer and I'm FEED up with a governor who thinks he's King of Ohio. I will never vote for a Republican because FO TEH greed of the wealthy.
Former Republican

Painesville, OH

#4 Jun 1, 2011
Keep SB5 wrote:
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Isn't it illegal to use a public building for political purposes. This is the issue. These unions are so arrogant that they do what they want.
Go ahead and repeal SB 5, then the state, counties and cities can fire the overburdening of staff and their benefits and pensions.
You get what you vote for. We got Obama with morons that do not look into the facts before they vote.
I will never vote for a police, fire, city or school levy because fo teh greed of these unions.
Taxpayers are feed up paying for all of this.
KEEP SB5 - You are a moron !!! unions are allowed by law to use public buildings for meetings and business. Read the newspapers too idiot...look how many Police, Fire fighters, Teachers and Department of Taxation employees have already lost their jobs because of this short sighted governor and the republican majority. Also BOZO...for your information I'm a taxpayer too and I will vote against S.B.5 because it will not affect taxes in the least. Your taxes are going to go up regardless because the legislators cut funding to schools and cities. Instead of having the balls to raise taxes to get out of a budget hole, they're trying to make the local governments the bad guys and take credit by saying "we didn't raise taxes" my ass they didn't raise taxes !!!! and one more thing clown...any money saved from this S.B.5 would be a miniscule amount when compared to an 8 billion dollar hole...stop blaming public employees and unions.
Former Republican

Painesville, OH

#5 Jun 1, 2011
One more comment: look who is behind S.B.5 - the Koch brothers and big business. If anybody doesn't believe this governor, and most of the republican legislators, are bought and paid for, there's your proof.
slow learner

Banning, CA

#6 Jun 1, 2011
Keep SB5 wrote:
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Isn't it illegal to use a public building for political purposes. This is the issue. These unions are so arrogant that they do what they want.
Go ahead and repeal SB 5, then the state, counties and cities can fire the overburdening of staff and their benefits and pensions.
You get what you vote for. We got Obama with morons that do not look into the facts before they vote.
I will never vote for a police, fire, city or school levy because fo teh greed of these unions.
Taxpayers are feed up paying for all of this.
"The labor unions don't want you to know these facts because they oppose reform - especially if it means giving up power or loosening their grip on our wallets," said the group's website.

Union workers make peanuts compared to a Wall Street investment banker and Fox News commentator like your governor.

Your governor is a white collar criminal who is now being protected by the State Highway Patrol. If George Bush had not defunded the SEC and redirected the FBI, his crimes would have been investigated and he should have been indicted. How ironic if the PAC is able to sustain SB5 and the governor is indicted and sentenced to time at Lucasville. The Corrections Officers assigned to protect him may see that he will be born again like his Nixon administration mentors who served jail time.

When will investigations be conducted into the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers and the loss of $500,000,000 in state pension funds lost after this bankruptcy.
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#7 Jun 1, 2011
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a taxpayer and I'm FEED up with a governor who thinks he's King of Ohio. I will never vote for a Republican because FO TEH greed of the wealthy.
You never voted republican anyway, I can tell by the envy seen in your post.
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#8 Jun 1, 2011
Former Republican wrote:
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KEEP SB5 - You are a moron !!! unions are allowed by law to use public buildings for meetings and business. Read the newspapers too idiot...look how many Police, Fire fighters, Teachers and Department of Taxation employees have already lost their jobs because of this short sighted governor and the republican majority. Also BOZO...for your information I'm a taxpayer too and I will vote against S.B.5 because it will not affect taxes in the least. Your taxes are going to go up regardless because the legislators cut funding to schools and cities. Instead of having the balls to raise taxes to get out of a budget hole, they're trying to make the local governments the bad guys and take credit by saying "we didn't raise taxes" my **** they didn't raise taxes !!!! and one more thing clown...any money saved from this S.B.5 would be a miniscule amount when compared to an 8 billion dollar hole...stop blaming public employees and unions.
Really ? People have already lost their jobs because of this, how ?
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#9 Jun 1, 2011
slow learner wrote:
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"The labor unions don't want you to know these facts because they oppose reform - especially if it means giving up power or loosening their grip on our wallets," said the group's website.
Union workers make peanuts compared to a Wall Street investment banker and Fox News commentator like your governor.
Your governor is a white collar criminal who is now being protected by the State Highway Patrol. If George Bush had not defunded the SEC and redirected the FBI, his crimes would have been investigated and he should have been indicted. How ironic if the PAC is able to sustain SB5 and the governor is indicted and sentenced to time at Lucasville. The Corrections Officers assigned to protect him may see that he will be born again like his Nixon administration mentors who served jail time.
When will investigations be conducted into the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers and the loss of $500,000,000 in state pension funds lost after this bankruptcy.
Cali is broke, why ? No Kasich there but they do have life guards that have retired making over 100K. Lefties tell us that illegals add to society, with so many, why are you broke ?
No joke

Galion, OH

#10 Jun 1, 2011
Tim wrote:
Yesterday, I stopped at the firestation, manned by off-duty paramedics and police officers for the City of Columbus to sign the petition to put the REPEAL of SB5 on the ballot in November. In just over 3 hours, they had collected 2,434 signatures of Franklin County residents who oppose SB5. Kasich and the Republican legislators made a BIG mistake.......they will pay for it, come November........
When I'm on duty at the fire station people stop in daily wanting to sign the petition for SB5. We tell them that we can't on duty but if they give us an address we will stop when we are not on duty.
Every time I go to collect a signature the people come running and can't wait to sign the petition. I had a lady stop in yesterday and I'm going to her neighborhood Thursday night...she told me when her neighbors hear I am collecting signatures they will be VERY excited and line up to sign.

Almost none of these people are unions members..the good thing is they realize that for a viable midlle class we need unions.

It really does make you proud that so many support what we do and realize how off Kasich, his administration and the Koch Bros are.
Former Republican

Painesville, OH

#11 Jun 1, 2011
Bob wrote:
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Really ? People have already lost their jobs because of this, how ?
well,glad you asked BOB: You see, it started in Columbus with this governor and his
"JOBS" budget. He decided to give city governments way less money in his "JOBS" budget, and these cities had to project ahead for the upcoming fiscal period how the extreme cuts in funding would affect them. Let's take Cleveland for example, shall we BOB, Cleveland will lose many millions in funding over the next two years, because of this governor's "JOBS" budget. So much so that to counter this loss of revenue, they let go of some 800 teachers, 400 city workers to include 140 police and another class of police recruits who upon graduation were told they don't have a job. That's how people have lost their jobs because of the governor's "JOBS" budget BOB. This is beginning to occur all over Ohio BOB, because of the "JOBS" budget. I hope you understand now BOB.
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#12 Jun 1, 2011
Former Republican wrote:
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well,glad you asked BOB: You see, it started in Columbus with this governor and his
"JOBS" budget. He decided to give city governments way less money in his "JOBS" budget, and these cities had to project ahead for the upcoming fiscal period how the extreme cuts in funding would affect them. Let's take Cleveland for example, shall we BOB, Cleveland will lose many millions in funding over the next two years, because of this governor's "JOBS" budget. So much so that to counter this loss of revenue, they let go of some 800 teachers, 400 city workers to include 140 police and another class of police recruits who upon graduation were told they don't have a job. That's how people have lost their jobs because of the governor's "JOBS" budget BOB. This is beginning to occur all over Ohio BOB, because of the "JOBS" budget. I hope you understand now BOB.
I think I do understand, Cleveland is in the crapper and depended on tax money from outside of Cleveland to keep them afloat, thanks for filling me in. Did you happen to read the story where one Cleveland school administration member received $83,000 for unused sick days after working in that job only 4 years ? Let them fall into the lake for all I care.
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#13 Jun 1, 2011
Former Republican wrote:
<quoted text>
well,glad you asked BOB: You see, it started in Columbus with this governor and his
"JOBS" budget. He decided to give city governments way less money in his "JOBS" budget, and these cities had to project ahead for the upcoming fiscal period how the extreme cuts in funding would affect them. Let's take Cleveland for example, shall we BOB, Cleveland will lose many millions in funding over the next two years, because of this governor's "JOBS" budget. So much so that to counter this loss of revenue, they let go of some 800 teachers, 400 city workers to include 140 police and another class of police recruits who upon graduation were told they don't have a job. That's how people have lost their jobs because of the governor's "JOBS" budget BOB. This is beginning to occur all over Ohio BOB, because of the "JOBS" budget. I hope you understand now BOB.
Here you go, just in case you missed it. And we should feel sorry for Cleveland when they waste money like this ?

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/05/retir...
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#14 Jun 1, 2011
No joke wrote:
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When I'm on duty at the fire station people stop in daily wanting to sign the petition for SB5. We tell them that we can't on duty but if they give us an address we will stop when we are not on duty.
Every time I go to collect a signature the people come running and can't wait to sign the petition. I had a lady stop in yesterday and I'm going to her neighborhood Thursday night...she told me when her neighbors hear I am collecting signatures they will be VERY excited and line up to sign.
Almost none of these people are unions members..the good thing is they realize that for a viable midlle class we need unions.
It really does make you proud that so many support what we do and realize how off Kasich, his administration and the Koch Bros are.
So without the 13% of the population in unions we would have no middle class ?
Former Republican

Mount Vernon, WA

#15 Jun 1, 2011
Yes...that was the former school superintendent, I thought that was way wrong.
Former Republican

Mount Vernon, WA

#16 Jun 1, 2011
However Bob....is getting a $400,000 bonus from Lehman Bros. Off the backs of investors who lost millions any better? This governor is toxic.
Kurt

Newell, PA

#17 Jun 1, 2011
slow learner wrote:
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"The labor unions don't want you to know these facts because they oppose reform - especially if it means giving up power or loosening their grip on our wallets," said the group's website.
Union workers make peanuts compared to a Wall Street investment banker and Fox News commentator like your governor.
Your governor is a white collar criminal who is now being protected by the State Highway Patrol. If George Bush had not defunded the SEC and redirected the FBI, his crimes would have been investigated and he should have been indicted. How ironic if the PAC is able to sustain SB5 and the governor is indicted and sentenced to time at Lucasville. The Corrections Officers assigned to protect him may see that he will be born again like his Nixon administration mentors who served jail time.
When will investigations be conducted into the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers and the loss of $500,000,000 in state pension funds lost after this bankruptcy.
AMEN!
Bob

Kennesaw, GA

#18 Jun 1, 2011
Former Republican wrote:
However Bob....is getting a $400,000 bonus from Lehman Bros. Off the backs of investors who lost millions any better? This governor is toxic.
You said SB5 was the cause of layoffs. The reason people are getting laid off is because of budget cuts, one has nothing to do with the other. These people would have been laid off under Strickland had he not received stimulus money to keep paying them.
missskeptic

Columbus, OH

#19 Jun 1, 2011
Bob wrote:
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So without the 13% of the population in unions we would have no middle class ?
Yes, because decades ago, unions forced employers to pay workers a living wage, not starvation wages. And because the union members got good wages and benefits, everyone else thought they deserved them, too, so they demanded and got them.

I just read today that middle class workers are making 10% less than in 1980, adjusted for inflation. Yet, health care, tuition, gas and food, and other necessities have skyrocketed in price. The middle class is dying and guys like Kasich are helping it die as fast as they can.
Former Republican

Mount Vernon, WA

#20 Jun 1, 2011
BOB...nowhere did I say layoffs were the result of S.B.5...In fact, I was pretty clear it's because of this governor's "JOBS" budget, and revenue loss due to this budget. S.B.5 will be defeated before it ever takes effect because the people of Ohio can see right through this bought and paid for governor ( see my earlier post concerning the Koch brothers and big business). This governor is only watching out for himself and his rich campaign donors - wake up !!!!

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