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Republicans attempt to stifle action on climate change

There are 47 comments on the www.guardian.co.uk story from Jan 7, 2011, titled Republicans attempt to stifle action on climate change. In it, www.guardian.co.uk reports that:

In their first full day in the new Congress, Republicans outlined three different bills - " encapsulating three different strategies - " aimed at limiting the powers of the EPA. to act on climate change.

In their first full day in the new Congress, Republicans outlined three different bills – encapsulating three different strategies – aimed at limiting the powers of the EPA. It also shut down a house committee that had tackled energy and climate issues.

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Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#1 Jan 7, 2011
"We think there is no science behind this.

Signed, Republicans"
War Weary

Union, NJ

#2 Jan 7, 2011
We know there is no science to this. Maurice Strong invented the problem with the help of the U.N. and the handful of elitist secret society groups. They sand to control everything under the global warming banner. Al Gore has stock in this whole adventure. Anyone who speaks out against them is targeted. Even when evidence presented that they have be altering the scienticic facts about global warming they still have the retarded liberals on their side. This is is just a power grab to control everything and ring in their "New World Order"
mayo420

Severna Park, MD

#3 Jan 7, 2011
Seeking truth wrote:
"We think there is no science behind this.
Signed, Republicans"
Republicans thinking? Now I'm worried.
War Weary

Union, NJ

#4 Jan 7, 2011
The scam is that you can polute if you pay them for carbon credits. It's all about money! NOT THE ENVIRNOMENT. WAKE UP YOU RETARDED SHEEP!
Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#5 Jan 7, 2011
War Weary wrote:
The scam is that you can polute if you pay them for carbon credits. It's all about money! NOT THE ENVIRNOMENT. WAKE UP YOU RETARDED SHEEP!
What, you don't like money, fool? Go ahead and burn YOURS, if you want. Smart people WON'T.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#6 Jan 7, 2011
It's like liberals arguing about the separation of church and state, only now this church is the state. We've got a hard fight on our hands before these fanatics give up their religion.
McCarthy was right

Bedford, TX

#7 Jan 7, 2011
While the Republicans were away, the childish democrats invited all their friends for a party that has nearly wrecked the House.

Thank goodness the grownups are back.
Cowboy Up

Santa Fe, NM

#8 Jan 7, 2011
War Weary wrote:
The scam is that you can polute if you pay them for carbon credits. It's all about money! NOT THE ENVIRNOMENT. WAKE UP YOU RETARDED SHEEP!
Spot on! The question is how is Al Gore going to make money on this one?

Other planets are warming
"Evidence that CO2 is not the principle driver of warming on this planet is provided by the simultaneous warming of other planets and moons in our solar system, despite the fact that they obviously have no anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases. Mars, Triton, Pluto and Jupiter all show global warming, pointing to the Sun as the dominating influence in determining climate throughout the solar system." (Ian McClintock)

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#9 Jan 7, 2011
Seeking truth wrote:
What, you don't like money, fool? Go ahead and burn YOURS, if you want. Smart people WON'T.
So, "smart people" don't burn electricity, gasoline, diesel, candles, kerosene, natural gas etc., which all cost money?
Hmmm, that's certainly smart, tell me how they do it?

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#10 Jan 7, 2011
War Weary wrote:
We know there is no science to this. Maurice Strong invented the problem with the help of the U.N. and the handful of elitist secret society groups. They sand to control everything under the global warming banner. Al Gore has stock in this whole adventure. Anyone who speaks out against them is targeted. Even when evidence presented that they have be altering the scienticic facts about global warming they still have the retarded liberals on their side. This is is just a power grab to control everything and ring in their "New World Order"
Damn the facts!

Just like "trickle down economics."
Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#11 Jan 7, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>So, "smart people" don't burn electricity, gasoline, diesel, candles, kerosene, natural gas etc., which all cost money?
Hmmm, that's certainly smart, tell me how they do it?
Hey, Romana, you need a shave. LOL
Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#12 Jan 7, 2011
We need to INVEST in clean alternative energy, carrots and sticks. We need to quick subsidizing dirty fuel. We need to SUBSIDIZE CLEAN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY with the same enthusiasm that dirty oil and coal have been getting for a century.
Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#13 Jan 7, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>So, "smart people" don't burn electricity, gasoline, diesel, candles, kerosene, natural gas etc., which all cost money?
Hmmm, that's certainly smart, tell me how they do it?
BTW Are you the daughter of Mussolini's BEOTCH who was hung upside down along with your leader?
Mothra

Portland, OR

#14 Jan 7, 2011
Seeking truth wrote:
"We think there is no science behind this.
Signed, Republicans"
Scientists abandon global warming 'lie'
650 to dissent at U.N. climate change conference

WASHINGTON – A United Nations climate change conference in Poland is about to get a surprise from 650 leading scientists who scoff at doomsday reports of man-made global warming – labeling them variously a lie, a hoax and part of a new religion.

Later today, their voices will be heard in a U.S. Senate minority report quoting the scientists, many of whom are current and former members of the U.N.'s own Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

About 250 of the scientists quoted in the report have joined the dissenting scientists in the last year alone.

In fact, the total number of scientists represented in the report is 12 times the number of U.N. scientists who authored the official IPCC 2007 report.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php...
Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#15 Jan 7, 2011
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Scientists abandon global warming 'lie'
650 to dissent at U.N. climate change conference
WASHINGTON – A United Nations climate change conference in Poland is about to get a surprise from 650 leading scientists who scoff at doomsday reports of man-made global warming – labeling them variously a lie, a hoax and part of a new religion.
Later today, their voices will be heard in a U.S. Senate minority report quoting the scientists, many of whom are current and former members of the U.N.'s own Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
About 250 of the scientists quoted in the report have joined the dissenting scientists in the last year alone.
In fact, the total number of scientists represented in the report is 12 times the number of U.N. scientists who authored the official IPCC 2007 report.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php...
What's 600 out of 3000? You know the Koch Brothers pay can only go so far.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-19/world/eco....
Mothra

Portland, OR

#16 Jan 7, 2011
Seeking truth wrote:
<quoted text>
What's 600 out of 3000? You know the Koch Brothers pay can only go so far.
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-19/world/eco....
Ahh... another specious red-herring.

No surprise there.

Just the same... your source is two years old. This is much more current.

More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims - Challenge UN IPCC & Gore

Selected Highlights of the Updated 2010 Report featuring over 1,000 international scientists dissenting from man-made climate fears:

“We're not scientifically there yet. Despite what you may have heard in the media, there is nothing like a consensus of scientific opinion that this is a problem. Because there is natural variability in the weather, you cannot statistically know for another 150 years.”-- UN IPCC's Tom Tripp, a member of the UN IPCC since 2004 and listed as one of the lead authors and serves as the Director of Technical Services & Development for U.S. Magnesium.

“Any reasonable scientific analysis must conclude the basic theory wrong!!”-- NASA Scientist Dr. Leonard Weinstein who worked 35 years at the NASA Langley Research Center and finished his career there as a Senior Research Scientist. Weinstein is presently a Senior Research Fellow at the National Institute of Aerospace.

“Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself -- Climate is beyond our power to control...Earth doesn't care about governments or their legislation. You can't find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone's permission or explaining itself.”-- Nobel Prize-Winning Stanford University Physicist Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, who won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1998, and was formerly a research scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

“In essence, the jig is up. The whole thing is a fraud. And even the fraudsters that fudged data are admitting to temperature history that they used to say didn't happen...Perhaps what has doomed the Climategate fraudsters the most was their brazenness in fudging the data”-- Dr. Christopher J. Kobus, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Oakland University, specializes in alternative energy, thermal transport phenomena, two-phase flow and fluid and thermal energy systems.

“The energy mankind generates is so small compared to that overall energy budget that it simply cannot affect the climate...The planet's climate is doing its own thing, but we cannot pinpoint significant trends in changes to it because it dates back millions of years while the study of it began only recently. We are children of the Sun; we simply lack data to draw the proper conclusions.”-- Russian Scientist Dr. Anatoly Levitin, the head of geomagnetic variations laboratory at the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere and Radiowave Propagation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Hundreds of billion dollars have been wasted with the attempt of imposing a Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory that is not supported by physical world evidences...AGW has been forcefully imposed by means of a barrage of scare stories and indoctrination that begins in the elementary school textbooks.”-- Brazilian Geologist Geraldo Luís Lino, who authored the 2009 book “The Global Warming Fraud: How a Natural Phenomenon Was Converted into a False World Emergency.”

(continued)
Mothra

Portland, OR

#17 Jan 7, 2011
(continued from above)

"I am an environmentalist,” but “I must disagree with Mr. Gore”-- Chemistry Professor Dr. Mary Mumper, the chair of the Chemistry Department at Frostburg State University in Maryland, during her presentation titled “Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming, the Skeptic's View.”

“I am ashamed of what climate science has become today.” The science “community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what 'science' has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed.”-- Research Chemist William C. Gilbert published a study in August 2010 in the journal Energy & Environment titled “The thermodynamic relationship between surface temperature and water vapor concentration in the troposphere” and he published a paper in August 2009 titled “Atmospheric Temperature Distribution in a Gravitational Field.”[Update December 9, 2010]

“The dysfunctional nature of the climate sciences is nothing short of a scandal. Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” The global warming establishment “has actively suppressed research results presented by researchers that do not comply with the dogma of the IPCC.”-- Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring, of the Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics Unit at Stockholm University.[Updated December 9, 2010. Corrects Jelbring's quote.]

“Global warming is the central tenet of this new belief system in much the same way that the Resurrection is the central tenet of Christianity. Al Gore has taken a role corresponding to that of St Paul in proselytizing the new faith...My skepticism about AGW arises from the fact that as a physicist who has worked in closely related areas, I know how poor the underlying science is. In effect the scientific method has been abandoned in this field.”-- Atmospheric Physicist Dr. John Reid, who worked with Australia's CSIRO's (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization) Division of Oceanography and worked in surface gravity waves (ocean waves) research.

“We maintain there is no reason whatsoever to worry about man-made climate change, because there is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening.”-- Greek Earth scientists Antonis Christofides and Nikos Mamassis of the National Technical University of Athens' Department of Water Resources and Environmental Engineering.

“There are clear cycles during which both temperature and salinity rise and fall. These cycles are related to solar activity...In my opinion and that of our institute, the problems connected to the current stage of warming are being exaggerated. What we are dealing with is not a global warming of the atmosphere or of the oceans.”-- Biologist Pavel Makarevich of the Biological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Because the greenhouse effect is temporary rather than permanent, predictions of significant global warming in the 21st century by IPCC are not supported by the data.”-- Hebrew University Professor Dr. Michael Beenstock an honorary fellow with Institute for Economic Affairs who published a study challenging man-made global warming claims titled “Polynomial Cointegration Tests of the Anthropogenic Theory of Global Warming.”

“The whole idea of anthropogenic global warming is completely unfounded. There appears to have been money gained by Michael Mann, Al Gore and UN IPCC's Rajendra Pachauri as a consequence of this deception, so it's fraud.”-- South African astrophysicist Hilton Ratcliffe, a member of the Astronomical Society of Southern Africa (ASSA) and the Astronomical Society of the Pacific and a Fellow of the British Institute of Physics.

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-RE...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#18 Jan 7, 2011
I ask a sensible question of Squeaking tooth and what do I get in reply, stupid comments.
Mussolini, Spain?
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I'll try again:
"So, "smart people" don't burn electricity, gasoline, diesel, candles, kerosene, natural gas etc., which all cost money?
Hmmm, that's certainly smart, tell me how they do it?"
Seeking truth

Dearborn, MI

#19 Jan 7, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
I ask a sensible question of Squeaking tooth and what do I get in reply, stupid comments.
Mussolini, Spain?
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I'll try again:
"So, "smart people" don't burn electricity, gasoline, diesel, candles, kerosene, natural gas etc., which all cost money?
Hmmm, that's certainly smart, tell me how they do it?"
You must have hair in your eyes, also, cousin it.

"We need to INVEST in clean alternative energy, carrots and sticks. We need to quick subsidizing dirty fuel. We need to SUBSIDIZE CLEAN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY with the same enthusiasm that dirty oil and coal have been getting for a century."

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#20 Jan 7, 2011
Seeking truth wrote:
"We need to INVEST in clean alternative energy, carrots and sticks. We need to [quick]¿quit? subsidizing dirty fuel. We need to SUBSIDIZE CLEAN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY with the same enthusiasm that dirty oil and coal have been getting for a century."
Sounds like a great idea, but what, "clean alternative energy" are you talking about that's as reliable as (scuse the pun) current, fossil fuelled energy?
There isn't much point subsidising something that isn't up to the job, is there?

You're just another dreamer, dreaming of a bright new, emission free future that's quite a long way off.

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