US and Mexican relations strain over ...

US and Mexican relations strain over death involving border patrol

There are 106 comments on the The Guardian story from Jul 9, 2012, titled US and Mexican relations strain over death involving border patrol. In it, The Guardian reports that:

Dispute over responsibility in death of 29-year-old Mexican man the latest tussle over shootings at the US border A homeland security agent questions the driver of southbound vehicle while a border patrol agents inspects it.

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Tony

Broken Arrow, OK

#107 Jul 20, 2012
Romney and his family should be investigated for any ties they may have to the Mexican Drug Cartels or other Mexican Crime Cartels. Romney may not have American values.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#108 Jul 20, 2012
What about Shawn Huckabee and his friend Carlos Quijas were arrested at the bridge on the Mexico side by the Mexican army. Mexican people said they saw them plant it on the Americans.

They were tortured and beaten severely. The USA dod nothing. If it was the other way around and our military was torturing Mexicans, Mexico would be up in arms also.

What about the 2 girls that went to a concert in Mexico and the father learned the police took them and turned them over to the Zetas. The police would not allow an investigation. The father was threatened with his life for trying to find out information.

The USA needs to get a back bone and stand up for Americans in Mexico that were doing nothing wrong when charged. Believe me, as an American I have had enforcement in Mexico do things to me that were way out of hand and very corrupt. So would law enforcement in Mexico shoot, kill or extort Americans. Absolutely. I just hope they do not decide to go overboard like they did with some of the Americans like Huckabee or the girls. Where is the outrage by the American government?

If these people do not want to have a possibility of getting shot or arrested, then do not do anything that is illegal, or throw rocks at people doing their jobs.
Chuggaboom

Austin, TX

#109 Jul 20, 2012
Concerned wrote:
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There are over 53,000 deserters from the military and police. I read that most of these guys took there issued weapons with them when they left. They have also taken down complete municipalities that everyone in the police force and the government were members of a cartel. So they got the guns legally and were using them illegally.
Who cares where the guns came from. They have them and that is it. They could buy them anywhere around the world. But why would you go to shop further then the USA.
Would you go to your local market to buy something made in China, or would you go all the way to China to buy the same thing?
You are very correct. The American gun market is easier and probably cheaper than getting weapons from Russia, China, or other such exporters. Anything can be attained on the black market for a price.
The government of Mexico has had no control over the cartels for so long that they can not get control now and their military and police often do not support the government.
see the light

United States

#110 Jul 20, 2012
El Cid wrote:
Do what Mexico does with its southern border. Station 50,000 armed soldiers along it. Also do like Mexico does, enforce its immigration laws. Illegal aliens do not want to remain in Mexico because they have no rights, no school, no welfare, no public protesting, no hospital services, nothing.
Do these things in America and illegal aliens will stop crossing over and the ones here will be going back home.
If only they would. Our so-called President, just cares about their votes.
see the light

United States

#111 Jul 20, 2012
Chuggaboom wrote:
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Is not actually the US Government sending guns to Mexico actually.
It is about Americans buying guns then reselling them to other Americans or even Mexican nationals to be sent to Mexico.
The F&F was watching several people who were doing this, mostly in Arizona. One guy who was "disabled" and collecting welfare literally placed an order with a local guns store in Phoenix for 400 assorted assault rifles. Showed up with a box truck and just over $400,000 in cash to pay for them. The transaction was complete and literally in the parking lot the guns were loaded, another man showed up and drove the truck full of guns away, into Mexico.
ATF repeatedly tried to get the US Attorney Office to charge the man along with dozens of others doing the same thing but each time ATF was refused as these individuals were literally not breaking any laws.
Makes me sick that this happens and true that no laws are being broken in Arizona but come on, guy on welfare shows up with almost half a million to buy assault rifles then someone else drives off with them?
Just the other day here in Austin some cartel members were arrested by local police doing the same thing, on a smaller scale though.
From what I've read, Eric Holder and his thugs were in on it. They wanted the guys caught, so the US would have stricter gun control. Mexico citizens can't have guns but the Criminals can.
see the light

United States

#112 Jul 20, 2012
Tony wrote:
Romney and his family should be investigated for any ties they may have to the Mexican Drug Cartels or other Mexican Crime Cartels. Romney may not have American values.
Looney

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