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Small-farm operators ask for help | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 18 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 9, 2011, titled Small-farm operators ask for help | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown was in Chillicothe yesterday, hearing what local farmers want as part of the new farm bill, along with their thoughts on the state of agriculture and its future.

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Wondering

Columbus, OH

#1 Jul 9, 2011
Problems:

1. Land is so expensive that any income you earn from growing things won't cover the mortgage.

Solution: The government gives them free land.

2. Small farmers raising animals can't afford vet bills - vets have to charge a lot to pay off their student loans.

Solution: The government gives vets free tuition.

3. Crop insurance costs more than is justified by the profits for small lot growers.

Solution: The government gives free crop insurance.

In short - free from the government, free from the government, free from the government!!
yeah baby

Powell, OH

#2 Jul 9, 2011
Watch out farmers because Brown and his progressive ilk can't wait to contrive famine and the the collectivization of farms. He and his ilk have probably already granted your crops as collateral to the Chinese. Look at him doing nothing about rising fuel costs. He's as good for farming as is 1/4 inch coating of ice.
nReis

Shelocta, PA

#3 Jul 9, 2011
Stop ALL welfare for ALL farms BIG and SMALL.
Black Lion

Columbus, OH

#4 Jul 9, 2011
Interesting bedfellows. Sherrod Brown who votes to the left of Vermont, Bernie Sanders who is an avowed socialist and farmers who actually work hard for a living. How do you categorize someone who actually votes to the left of a socialist? Communist?
Reader

Eustis, FL

#6 Jul 9, 2011
Never complain about farmers when you have a full stomach.
Farm girl

New Albany, OH

#7 Jul 9, 2011
Amen to that, Reader
mkhunt

United States

#8 Jul 9, 2011
small farms are being contaminated by frac drilling chemicals.Waste water from Pennsylvania is being trucked in to injection wells. Air contamination from flaring, accidents and releases is also a very serious problem. Farmers in Pa.'s Washington Co. have dead and sick animals and birth defects such as calves born without eyes. Many people now are visiting dimock, hickory and WV's Wetzel Co. to see for themselves. Do not let this happen to your farm.
ramseyjames

United States

#9 Jul 9, 2011
Farming is a business, which they chose as their occupation. In business you either succeed or fail, but depending on the taxpayers to bail you out is totally wrong. If you succeed you make good money, if you fail, get the hell out of the farming business and quit begging for taxpayer handouts! Subsidies and taxpayer handouts for these farm businesses should be totally eliminated! Period!
Linda

Marion, OH

#10 Jul 9, 2011
Maybe everyone here should read up on Agenda 21. Problems are just beginning and George Soros is leading the way. He is the No 3 elevator owner in our country behind Cargil. He is behind buying up the flooded farm land in the heartland. He is buying farmland in Africa. The UN would like nothing more than to suck up our farms. Google it and read it. Then tell everyone you know about it. Why do you think there was an Executive Order 13575 establishing a Rural Committee made up of the Pres and all of his cabinet? We have a Dept of AG. We do not need the adminstration and cabinet telling the farming and rural communities how to live. We can and have been doing it for years on our own. Read everything you can about this issue. You won't see it in the papers or on 4. 6. or 10. Stay aware, it is your food and land.
In the know

Nashport, OH

#11 Jul 10, 2011
Wondering wrote:
Problems:
1. Land is so expensive that any income you earn from growing things won't cover the mortgage.
Solution: The government gives them free land.
2. Small farmers raising animals can't afford vet bills - vets have to charge a lot to pay off their student loans.
Solution: The government gives vets free tuition.
3. Crop insurance costs more than is justified by the profits for small lot growers.
Solution: The government gives free crop insurance.
In short - free from the government, free from the government, free from the government!!
Facts: The government already gives freebies (subsidies and crop insurance) to large farms (corporations) and large businesses.

Fact: The government doesn't give a crap about small farmers and small businesses because they don't have enough money to "donate" to the politicians to get them to care.

I hate corporate welfare, but if this is what we've decided to accept as normal business and government practices in the U.S., then the little guys should get their share, too. I'm just sayin'.
In the know

Nashport, OH

#12 Jul 10, 2011
ramseyjames wrote:
Farming is a business, which they chose as their occupation. In business you either succeed or fail, but depending on the taxpayers to bail you out is totally wrong. If you succeed you make good money, if you fail, get the hell out of the farming business and quit begging for taxpayer handouts! Subsidies and taxpayer handouts for these farm businesses should be totally eliminated! Period!
Hey, I agree. You should either succeed or fail on your own merits without government handouts. But you and I both know that's not how it is. The local, state and federal governments hand out free money to big business and corporate farms all the time. Or do you pay attention to the headlines? Either end all government handouts or give the small businesses and farms their share.
Farmers are socialists

Nashport, OH

#13 Jul 10, 2011
Black Lion wrote:
Interesting bedfellows. Sherrod Brown who votes to the left of Vermont, Bernie Sanders who is an avowed socialist and farmers who actually work hard for a living. How do you categorize someone who actually votes to the left of a socialist? Communist?
Agriculture is one of the most heavily subsidized industries in the U.S. and the world. I find it hilarious that most farmers in the U.S. vote Republican, but they are the first to step up to the plate expecting handouts from the government and they scream the loudest when cuts to farm programs are proposed. Flat out, farmers are socialists, though they'll never admit it. Like everyone else, they think other people's handouts should be cut, but not theirs. Hilarious!

Wartime III

“Operation GTFO Advocate”

Since: Jul 11

Kenyan-Bound Commie Blubber

#14 Jul 10, 2011
Farmers are socialists wrote:
<quoted text>
Agriculture is one of the most heavily subsidized industries in the U.S. and the world. I find it hilarious that most farmers in the U.S. vote Republican, but they are the first to step up to the plate expecting handouts from the government and they scream the loudest when cuts to farm programs are proposed. Flat out, farmers are socialists, though they'll never admit it. Like everyone else, they think other people's handouts should be cut, but not theirs. Hilarious!
Your ignorance is far more "hilarious".

Democratic Socialists of Congress: Meet the Members
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...

Now that Americans are awake and confronting their tyrannical employees in the federal government, who are clearly hell-bent upon forcing a Marxist agenda, it’s time to name names so that the people easily identify who is directly responsible for the biggest assault on American freedom and liberty in US history.

After decades of failed attempts to take over America via their third party initiatives that couldn’t break America’s two party system, leaders of both the Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA chose a new strategy.

Both being the ultimate “party of the working class stiff,” they joined forces in a new venture that would work within the US two party system, by hijacking control of one of the two primary parties. As the Democrat Party had already spent years identifying itself as the “party of the working class,” engaging in socio-economic class warfare as its primary method for expanding its political power, it was ripe for the hijacking.

Together, Communist Party and Socialist Party leaders established the Democratic Socialists of America, and they share a common ideology which is now the platform and mantra of today’s DNC - CPUSA

Insert the word “Democrats” where “Communists” appears in this statement, and you have the central message of today’s Democrat leadership.

To gain full control of the Democrat Party, DSA leadership established two congressional legislative bodies, headed by DSA/CPUSA/SPUSA members. Today, these are the two congressional bodies in control of congress.

They are the Congressional Progressive Caucus established by Socialist Party member Bernie Sanders of Vermont, and the Congressional Black Caucus established by Communist Party member John Conyers of Michigan.

ALL members of these two congressional committees represent the Democratic Socialists of America, as both committees are the creation of, and operate under the control of DSAUSA.

[continues...]

Wartime III

“Operation GTFO Advocate”

Since: Jul 11

Kenyan-Bound Commie Blubber

#15 Jul 10, 2011
[continued, part 2 of 2]

If you want to know who is behind the full-court press to nationalize or socialize health care, the auto industry, banking and insurance, here they are…. Is YOUR congress member on these lists?

Members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm...

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus
http://thecongressionalblackcaucus.lee.house....

Every member of these two congressional committees is a problem for every American. To fully understand the related facts, please take the time to study this DSAUSA document - What is Democratic Socialism. Then take a moment to review their current newsletter, The Red Letter to DSA members - http://www.dsausa.org/yds/redletter.html .

If you still have no clue what we are up against, go one step further and take a look at their theactivist.org : designed to attract and indoctrinate the youth of America.

To be sure, they are not the only problem is congress or Washington DC today, but every anti-American policy initiative coming out of Washington DC today, is rooted in this organization and proposed by their members of congress, the members of their two committees.

As American citizens wake up to the reality that their nation, their personal freedom and liberty are under attack on many fronts today, they must focus on the root of that evil, Americans who have lost their faith in freedom and liberty, and bought the false promise of secular socialism and the right of the Fed to confiscate the freedom of one, to purchase the voting power of another.

Ten minutes of history research will quickly confirm that communism, socialism, Marxism, totalitarianism, are all systems by which the governing few are empowered, not the masses. Even though many Americans have been tricked into thinking that their lives are better off in the hands of Washington DC elitists, the vast majority of Americans inherently know better!

If your members of congress appear on either of the two member lists above, they ARE part of the “conspiracy” to destroy everything America has ever been, or was ever intended to be. They are opponents of freedom, plain and simple.

Being “democrat” or “black” is not their unforgivable offense. Being black or democrat does not make one un-American or a threat to American freedom. But being a communist or socialists in a position of power, or today, a position of unbridled power, is indeed both un-American and a threat to every American citizen.

Read more....
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...

Wartime III

“Operation GTFO Advocate”

Since: Jul 11

Kenyan-Bound Commie Blubber

#16 Jul 10, 2011
Look at the democRATS!

here are 70 self-avowed democrat "socialists" currently 'serving' in the house and senate.

Source: Congressional Progressive Caucus
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm...
________

Q: How Many Members Of The U.S. Congress Are Self-Declared Socialists?

A: 70
________

Q: How many of the DSA (Democrat Socialists of America) members sit on the Judiciary Committee?

A: 11

There are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA.

(D) John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee],
Tammy Baldwin,
Jerrold Nadler,
Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt,
Maxine Waters,
Hank Johnson,
Steve Cohen,
Barbara Lee,
Robert Wexler,
Linda Sanchez
________

Q: Who are these members of Congress?

A: See the following list:

Co-Chairs:
Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs:
Diane Watson (CA-33)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members:
Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members:
Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Robert Brady (PA-01)
Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Michael Capuano (MA-08)
André Carson (IN-07)
Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Steve Cohen (TN-09)
John Conyers (MI-14)
Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Danny Davis (IL-07)
Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Sam Farr (CA-17)
Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Bob Filner (CA-51)
Barney Frank (MA-04)
Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
John Hall (NY-19)
Phil Hare (IL-17)
Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Michael Honda (CA-15)
Jesse Jackson, Jr.(IL-02)
Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Barbara Lee (CA-09)
John Lewis (GA-05)
David Loebsack (IA-02)
Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Ed Markey (MA-07)
Jim McDermott (WA-07)
James McGovern (MA-03)
George Miller (CA-07)
Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
John Olver (MA-01)
Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
José Serrano (NY-16)
Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Pete Stark (CA-13)
Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
John Tierney (MA-06)
Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Mel Watt (NC-12)
Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)
budd

Thailand

#17 Jul 10, 2011
Q: How Many Members Of The U.S. Congress Are Self-Declared Socialists?
A: 1 Sen.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
All the rest is utter bulllshitt. Wartime's list originates with WND and is made up from whole cloth. Wingnuts have now radicalized themselves to the point where anyone left of Pat Buchanan is a commie.
You guys are going to be soundly rejected in Nov. 2012.
Joe

Chillicothe, OH

#18 Jul 10, 2011
google S-510, agenda 21 they are doing away with family farms.
Robbie

Edenton, NC

#19 Jul 11, 2011
Linda wrote:
Maybe everyone here should read up on Agenda 21. Problems are just beginning and George Soros is leading the way. He is the No 3 elevator owner in our country behind Cargil. He is behind buying up the flooded farm land in the heartland. He is buying farmland in Africa. The UN would like nothing more than to suck up our farms. Google it and read it. Then tell everyone you know about it. Why do you think there was an Executive Order 13575 establishing a Rural Committee made up of the Pres and all of his cabinet? We have a Dept of AG. We do not need the adminstration and cabinet telling the farming and rural communities how to live. We can and have been doing it for years on our own. Read everything you can about this issue. You won't see it in the papers or on 4. 6. or 10. Stay aware, it is your food and land.
NO you haven't been doing it on you're own for years!! I live in a farming community and would be willing to bet that there are more farmers receiving government subsidies than are not!! I personally know a farmer who netted over $1000,000 2 years ago and got a government subsidy of $35,000---now that's just wrong. I think the Dept of Ag needs to look at who they're handing out $$$ to and make some cuts to those who obviously don't need it. Like every other program there are those grabbing $$$ that will ruin it for everyone.......

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