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Fuel cells fall from feds' favor | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 14 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 11, 2011, titled Fuel cells fall from feds' favor | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Baffled by proposals to cut support for fuel-cell technology, Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, has asked the DOE to reverse its stance.

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Someone

Columbus, OH

#1 Jul 11, 2011
Fuel cell technology has been around for decades; its first high profile use was on the old Gemini space capsules. Currently there are smaller submarines that are powered by Siemens fuel cells - so it is time for the Federal government to stop funding the research and let some company get into the act (like that will happen - too long of a ROI I am sure).
the truth

Heath, OH

#2 Jul 11, 2011
the doe is and has only supported projects that will take years if not 10's of years or more and now they say they want ones that can go to market fast. It is all smoke and mirrors and they are learning what we already know they only wanted to fund unions and DNC supporters Brown take a hike in 2012.
Mr Progressive

Powell, OH

#3 Jul 11, 2011
Look at the filthy progressives expand the dependency class from the poor and inner city people to the start up businesses in industry. Typical progressive filth contaminating all they touch. And get a load of Senator Disheveled...he scares hygene.
Mayberry Resident

Fremont, OH

#4 Jul 11, 2011
Terrible decision. Another technology we will let the Chinese and Japanese develop and produce. Then we can say why didn't we do it or let the market decide.

The market is being developed overseas and we are going to lose out.

Obama wants to help those third world socialist ccountries where the lithium for his new batteries are mined like Bolivia.

We are not investing enough in energy production to make a major conversion to electric charged vehicles on a mass scale.
Pragmatic realist

Columbus, OH

#5 Jul 11, 2011
Who loses out if we continue to develop fuel cells? Oil companies.....

Politics are secondary, except as a consuit of bribes, and in this, all of Congress is filthy.
the truth

Heath, OH

#6 Jul 11, 2011
Pragmatic realist wrote:
Who loses out if we continue to develop fuel cells? Oil companies.....
Politics are secondary, except as a consuit of bribes, and in this, all of Congress is filthy.
the bribes cme from the left and Obama is not getting all he wants from the worthless green energy so he is making the pay with pain. fuel cells like all green jobs are worthless look at greece and spain they sold out to them and now no one is working and the losers are in the streets but this is what Obama wants under the marxist cloward and pivens plan to bring down the USA and we all know it
JurySays

Columbus, OH

#7 Jul 11, 2011
It's the physics. You can't make a cheap cell, and they have to operate at incredibly high hydrogen pressures and temperatures. Fueling a car safely with 3000 PSI hydrogen on a mass-market basis is damn near impossible. Other transportation solutions, like widespread use of trains, natural gas powered fleet or even just walking everywhere start to make a lot of sense when you consider the technological nightmare and outrageous expense of fuel cells!
Money Hog

Columbus, OH

#8 Jul 11, 2011
Fuel cells could be used in residential homes instead of being on the electric grid. Further development is still needed though. MIT has done research on fuel cells. I guess coal generated electricity will never die for residential use.
JurySays

Columbus, OH

#9 Jul 11, 2011
Mayberry Resident wrote:
Terrible decision. Another technology we will let the Chinese and Japanese develop and produce. Then we can say why didn't we do it or let the market decide.
The market is being developed overseas and we are going to lose out.
Obama wants to help those third world socialist ccountries where the lithium for his new batteries are mined like Bolivia.
We are not investing enough in energy production to make a major conversion to electric charged vehicles on a mass scale.
Wrong. Every country on planet earth has to deal with the same laws of physics. The Chinese have about as much chance of creating a mass market fuel cell vehicle as pigs do of flying. Look at the physics. You don't pour money down a rat hole.
Sterling Silver

Columbus, OH

#10 Jul 11, 2011
Thought we had a huge debt. Cuts have to be made. If the technology is viable, the market will figure out how to make it work and price it accordingly.

The above is typical conservative thinking. So why the continued hating on Obama when he does what y'all preach 24/7?

Oh, maybe you hate him cuz he ain't all white.
SOmeone

Columbus, OH

#11 Jul 11, 2011
JurySays wrote:
It's the physics. You can't make a cheap cell, and they have to operate at incredibly high hydrogen pressures and temperatures. Fueling a car safely with 3000 PSI hydrogen on a mass-market basis is damn near impossible. Other transportation solutions, like widespread use of trains, natural gas powered fleet or even just walking everywhere start to make a lot of sense when you consider the technological nightmare and outrageous expense of fuel cells!
Do some reasearch - there are reforming fuel cells that do NOT require high pressure hydrogen as a fuel source.
The problem has been that these fuel cells require a highly pure fuel source - thinks like sulfur messes with them, which precludes the use of oridinary refined oil. Companies have been trying to solve this problem without much commercial sucess.
Anonymous Columbus OH

Frazeysburg, OH

#12 Jul 11, 2011
Richard Fong

New York, NY

#13 Jul 12, 2011
Steven Chu is flip flopping like a fish out of water! How can you switch your stance and expect to be relevant or induce confidence when you play follow the leader and the leader is asleep at the wheel... We have no leadership in this country and especially have no forsight... rather shortsideness is what we have... this is why I am going to campaign against Obama and more importantly Chu. Fuel Cell Technology is going straight to Asia where they have recognized the significant advantages Fuel Cells have over batteries and for stationary power its a no brainer... Fuel Cells are the future and its happening now! The sad part is that this is U.S. developed technology that is being exported!

http://fuelcellsworks.com/news/2011/04/11/wor...
Roger Dawson

Tempe, AZ

#14 Jul 18, 2011
Secretary Chu is a tool of the oil and nuclear industry. The oil and nuclear industry hate hydrogen because it beats them on every point. HE has been ordered by them to delay hydrogen. He needs to be fired. He is he Rupert Murdoch of the energy industry!

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